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[jaundicejuice]

I meant (and said?) completely boycotting the game, not being disapointed by the graphics / game. For all acounts the actual game is still really good, and a worthy sequel to DS (even if its not revolutionary or anything). But hey, opinions, everyone have them, can I please have mine too? thanks

If they were lied to and are disappointed with the end-product I don't see how boycotting it is an extreme or unwarranted reaction. What Bandai Namco engaged was a fairly shitty bait and switch. Not in the same league as Aliens Colonial Marines because the end result isn't as terrible but the action of using a misleading build of the game to sell it was the same.

If people don't react to these terrible practices, they'll simply continue.

 

[masterkajo]

Just finished the first episode of The Wolf Among Us. Wonderful game! The characters, voices, atmosphere, lore and story is just wonderful. And that ending of episode one.

 

[Grief.exe]

New Dark Souls II shot

Downsampled from 4k

 

[HoosTrax]

Old? BELOW is coming to Steam!!

The new trailer and its music, HOLY SHIT...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Br9tnV9j_0

Hope Super TIME Force is also coming to PC soon!

I think this is the first time we've gotten a Capy game not years after the original console release. That's something to celebrate I suppose.

 

[Chance Hale]

So, is Carmageddon: Reincarnation any good in its current state or looking like something that will be worthwhile at launch?

 

[MMBosstones86]

Durante got access to Dark Souls 2, he is doing an article for PC Gamer.

anticipation intensifies. Game will most likely unlock around store refresh time, right? Guess I can get away with only taking a half day vacation, which is excellent.

ugh that fucking DS2 pc thread... why did I even pop in there

avoid like the plague. If the thread has 'graphics' or 'comparison' in the title, avoid at all costs.

 

[Vazduh]

I've got just one question for you folks. Is there anyone in this thread who's ready to bro?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfGSLXf_Iao

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jubbly]

New Dark Souls II shot

Downsampled from 4k

Actual 4K

 

[jmizzal]

Good luck!

Thanks for FTL: Faster Than Light, I been wanting to try it

 

[-MD-]

 

[HoosTrax]

Remind me again why image quality is something we care so deeply about with regards to Dark Souls II?

I mean the first game had interesting and unique art direction, in terms of the dark, gothic design, but I don't remember playing it thinking the visual quality was remarkable in terms of technical execution.

 

[dreamfall]

Ah, the Tesla Effect demo was old school goodness.

Tex still got it! Some clever puzzles!

 

[koma]

Ok, it's time to share for me too, even if it's nothing major

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[corrosivefrost]

Here are my thoughts on it.

Does the blame truly rest on From/Namco, or journalists?

Since around early January, both From and Namco have been fairly upfront with what the game looks like. They have shown up at all trade events with playable demos, footage, and screenshots from the retail game. They even released footage, screenshots, and a beta dating back to early December that was representative of the retail build. There have been oversights here and there, but the majority of the message has been the actual retail build since December/January.

These were seen by hundreds upon hundreds of journalists and not a single one asks or mentions the missing lighting system?
From hasn't been disingenuous, just not exactly transparent throughout. Should they have said something? Sure, but Japanese culture being what it is and hindsight being 20/20 I don't exactly blame them.

We deserve a better class of journalists, and everyone deserves to play the excellent Dark Souls II. Don't let a little miscommunication come between you and the sequel to one of the best games of all time.

(1) This doesn't help when a lot of fans go on "media blackout". So even if journalists report on it, or show it off, the fans might not see it (I've been on blackout for it until I couldn't avoid some of it because of the console release and then the downgrade stuff).

(2) I went to search for some footage and I found this official video (at least I think it's official).

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/8zqwpd/dark-souls-ii-forest-of-death-interview-and-new-footage

It's funny, because in a lot of spots, it is like you say... but then I hit the 3 minute mark (give or take) and just before it there's old (?) footage of walking down the stairs with the torch followed by the fight which I'm pointing out -- it's hard to tell in a youtube video, but I find myself wondering if that's the new lighting or the old lighting.

(3) It's possible people could think that the "retail build" footage (as you label it) might be not fully polished yet and would expect the areas to come together more like the higher quality footage/images shown.

I'm not disagreeing with you -- the game journalists in the industry suck. It may or may not be their fault, but the truth is they're outright terrible most of the time.
It's still a really bad situation though... that's what happens when you have a ridiculously loyal -- almost cult following type -- fanbase.

 

[didamangi]

Remind me again why image quality is something we care so deeply about with regards to Dark Souls II?

I mean the first game had interesting and unique art direction, in terms of the dark, gothic design, but I don't remember playing it thinking the visual quality was remarkable in terms of technical execution.

Mostly because of the earlier demo that has good lighting versus the retail version, that's the crux of it I think.

Welcome to the club, maybe we should make a leaderboard to see who save the most from playfire rewards)

 

[HoosTrax]

Mostly because of the earlier demo that has good lighting versus the retail version, that's the crux of it I think.

That's kind of what I suspected, and maybe they would have been better off staying mum.

 

[-MD-]

Welcome to the club, maybe we should make a leaderboard to see who save the most from playfire rewards)

Funny thing about that, I would have gotten it for $14 if they loaded my playfire rewards from the last week or so but my credit was locked at $18 for whatever reason, as soon as I clicked purchase the remaining credit I was waiting for loaded into my account.

So it was already there it just wouldn't let me access it, weird.

 

[Dr Dogg]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-titanfall-tech-interview

Cheers for the link. Meeh I can kind of see where they might have got the impression (a frame of latency added due to single threaded) but that's some massive assumptions and conclusions to jump to. But hey don't let the facts get in the way of a good story, right?

Remind me again why image quality is something we care so deeply about with regards to Dark Souls II?

I mean the first game had interesting and unique art direction, in terms of the dark, gothic design, but I don't remember playing it thinking the visual quality was remarkable in terms of technical execution.

I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people playing Dark Souls II, on either console or PC don't even have their monitor or TV calibrated correctly. Now I'm not saying everyone needs to go out and drop £120/$160 on a Spyder and get your gamma spot on but I would like to hope that they understand that even out by a fraction can throw a spanner in the works for IQ.

 

[Anteater]

New Dark Souls II shot

Downsampled from 4k

I'd trade any lighting for more proportional and cooler character models

 

[mannerbot]

GMG plz give me 25% off Dark Souls 2.

 

[Cheddahz]

Broforce is tight

 

[Creamium]

I'm playing Outlast. It's gonna give me a heart attack and I'm loving it. In the 'your only option is running' category, this has Amnesia beat so far. I'm a sucker for the haunted/abandoned asylum horror trope though.

my favorite moment was when

Spoiler

the two naked twins sandwiched me and I jumped out of the window as a reflex, which was the way to go

 

[HoosTrax]

I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people playing Dark Souls II, on either console or PC don't even have their monitor or TV calibrated correctly. Now I'm not saying everyone needs to go out and drop £120/$160 on a Spyder and get your gamma spot on but I would like to hope that they understand that even out by a fraction can throw a spanner in the works for IQ.

I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I run Lightboost on my monitor full-time, so my color balance is completely out of whack anyway, for the sake of performance. So I'm definitely one of those color reproduction heathens .

 

[confuziz]

Broforce is tight

Do you feel the bro within you?

 

[didamangi]

Funny thing about that, I would have gotten it for $14 if they loaded my playfire rewards from the last week or so but it was locked at $18 for whatever reason, as soon as I clicked purchase the remaining credit I was waiting for loaded into my account.

So it was already there it just wouldn't let me access it, weird.

Should've pm radMonkey here, he gets them to fixed a problem with my rewards and get their cs to finally resolved my issue after around 6 days without reply pretty sharpish. Boss.

I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people playing Dark Souls II, on either console or PC don't even have their monitor or TV calibrated correctly. Now I'm not saying everyone needs to go out and drop £120/$160 on a Spyder and get your gamma spot on but I would like to hope that they understand that even out by a fraction can throw a spanner in the works for IQ.

Most people using nvidia cards and hdmi connection should probably use the full range toggle application that Durante made as well to see if they get better colors.

 

[corrosivefrost]

GMG plz give me 25% off Dark Souls 2.

It's only $2.50. If you want it, use the 20% off coupon and go to town.

 

[-MD-]

Should've pm radMonkey here, he gets them to fixed a problem with my rewards and get their cs to finally resolved my issue after around 6 days without reply pretty sharpish. Boss.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll make sure to do this in the future.

 

[Backlogger]

GMG plz give me 25% off Dark Souls 2.

I'd give you mine if I could as I know I am not using it.

 

[Anteater]

damn that dark souls coupon expires today huh...

 

[Cheddahz]

Do you feel the bro within you?

Not yet

 

[HoosTrax]

I like achievements as much as anyone, but this is really a bit extreme.

I did the math, and it'll take me 813.6 hours to platinum this game if I were so inclined.

 

[NaM]

Not yet

Then you don't deserve it bro.

 

[StAidan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfGSLXf_Iao

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats! Clearly ModBot deemed you worthy.

 

[gabrielt16]

End up paying $20.96 for Dark Souls 2.

Thank you Goat Simulator & South Park.

 

[Rhaknar]

If they were lied to and are disappointed with the end-product I don't see how boycotting it is an extreme or unwarranted reaction. What Bandai Namco engaged was a fairly shitty bait and switch. Not in the same league as Aliens Colonial Marines because the end result isn't as terrible but the action of using a misleading build of the game to sell it was the same.

If people don't react to these terrible practices, they'll simply continue.

you assume they, like a comic book villain, created this amazing looking version to get people to pre order or something, and then MUAHAHAHAHA IT WAS A LIE. that is yours, or anyone that thinks like that, right. As is their right to boycott or whatever.

I think they got in over their heads, couldnt get the game to not run like complete horseshit looking like that, and had to sacrifice a lot, which happens a lot in the industry. again, opinions.

and with that, im done with this. I dont go in the other thread for a reason, I have no interest at all in arguing about this here either. you think what you want, Ill think what I want, everyone wins

 

[mrgone]

Hack 'n' Slash should be hitting Early Acess soon.

This is awesome! I remember it getting a lot of votes during last year's fortnite, but I thought Double-Fine had ultimately gone with Spacebase as the full-release game. I'd completely missed that this was being developed for wide release too.

 

[jshackles]

I'm having a hard time jumping on the Dark Souls II hype train.

I stopped playing Dark Souls on Steam after having issues with GFWL. I felt hopelessly lost at the beginning of the game, and the fact that it would crash randomly didn't help any.

I would probably play again if Namco ends up patching out GFWL and porting to Steamworks. After that, if I like the game, I'll buy the sequel.

 

[Levyne]

Dark Souls was the only GFWL game I've played and I didn't have any trouble with it. Lucky me I guess, but also limited exposure.

 

[Stallion Free]

The difference between dark Souls 2 and Alien CM is that DS2 probably won't play like utter dogshit.

 

[gabrielt16]

Giving back some love to the bros

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[Dr Dogg]

I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I run Lightboost on my monitor full-time, so my color balance is completely out of whack anyway, for the sake of performance. So I'm definitely one of those color reproduction heathens .

I wish I had a LightBoost 120hz monitor instead of my regular no strobing one

Hahaha I think some people know that what they are seeing is an accurate representation, maybe over saturated and blown out colours are more appealing to them, who am I to judge if that's their preference? But when some one feels the need to vent about image quality when they don't know how much they themselves are destroying it, that kind of invalidates their opinion.

Most people using nvidia cards and hdmi connection should probably use the full range toggle application that Durante made as well to see if they get better colors.

I forgot about his past wizzardy.

To be fair though there's also a section of people that thing by selecting full range that they are getting more regardless if their display supports it or not. I mean christ it's not like it's that hard to check if your panel supports it or not.

Here's and easy test anyone with a pc can do. Just open paint and create 5 black squares with 8 bit RGB values of 0/0/0, 5/5/5, 10/10/10, 15/15/15, 20/20/20 save it as a file that you can view on the device your screen is connected to so you can see it (obviously making sure it has the full RGB pallet). Set it up for full range and then view the picture. If all 5 squares are unique variations then you're good to go. If the first 4 square are the same tone when you have it set to full range you've just clipped 46,000+ colours.

 

[FiveElementNinja]

I'm having a hard time jumping on the Dark Souls II hype train.

I stopped playing Dark Souls on Steam after having issues with GFWL. I felt hopelessly lost at the beginning of the game, and the fact that it would crash randomly didn't help any.

I would probably play again if Namco ends up patching out GFWL and porting to Steamworks. After that, if I like the game, I'll buy the sequel.

I took me about 9 hours to finally hit my stride in Dark Souls, but once I did, I really started to enjoy it. I think the turning point for me was learning how to parry and how to break block. That's when I felt like I had a chance and started getting hooked on the game.

 

[didamangi]

I'm having a hard time jumping on the Dark Souls II hype train.

I stopped playing Dark Souls on Steam after having issues with GFWL. I felt hopelessly lost at the beginning of the game, and the fact that it would crash randomly didn't help any.

I would probably play again if Namco ends up patching out GFWL and porting to Steamworks. After that, if I like the game, I'll buy the sequel.

One of the reviews, I think rev3games? stated that the beginning of DS2 is way better at explaining/guiding you around the game.

Hope you'll continue playing DS btw, it's the one game on steam you wouldn't want to miss really.

 

[catabarez]

I wish I had a LightBoost 120hz monitor instead of my regular no strobing one

Hahaha I think some people know that what they are seeing is an accurate representation, maybe over saturated and blown out colours are more appealing to them, who am I to judge if that's their preference? But when some one feels the need to vent about image quality when they don't know how much they themselves are destroying it, that kind of invalidates their opinion.



I forgot about his past wizzardy.

To be fair though there's also a section of people that thing by selecting full range that there are getting more regardless if their display supports it or not. I mean christ it's not like it's that hard to check if your panel supports it or not.

Here's and easy test anyone with a pc can do. Just open paint and create 5 black squares with an 8 bit RGB value or 0/0/0, 5/5/5, 10/10/10, 15/15/15, 20/20/20 save it as a file that you can view on the device your screen is connected to so you can see it. Set it up for full range and then view the picture. If all 5 squares are unique variations then you're good to go. If the first 4 square are the same tone when you have it set to full range you've just clipped 46,000+ colours.

This is very educational. I'll be sure to test this out.

 

[Dr Dogg]

This is very educational. I'll be sure to test this out.

Well on a computer monitor you're good to go. Well unless your still rocking an EGA monitor for the early 80's that is but then you'd had more serious issues to address

This is applies to TV's more over.

 

[Aaron D.]

Thanks for Euro Truck.

No worries. I really should have picked up a handful of ETS2 keys when it was on sale for $4.99 last week. It's the freshest game I've played in years.

Thanks for Tropico 4 .

Hawkie recommended it to me when I was delineating some of my fascist plans for when I am dictator great ruler of all I survey, in Steam Chat, so I'll be glad to give those plans a whirl .

It's still the modern city builder to beat. After the cluster-f that was Sim City, T4 feels like a warm blanket of awesomeness.

Thanks for FTL: Faster Than Light, I been wanting to try it

You picked a great time to hop on board on the heels of a sweet content update.

Thanks for participating all!

 

[HoosTrax]

Well this is a relief.

 

[Levyne]

All this display talk is giving me the upgrade itch. But I kind of want to wait until G-sync, 120hz, 4k, IPS or at least most of those points, so I'm talking several years down the line. I feel like you must really need a monster to push past 60fps, though.

 

[HoosTrax]

All this display talk is giving me the upgrade itch. But I kind of want to wait until G-sync, 120hz, 4k, IPS or at least most of those points. I feel like you must really need a monster to push past 60fps, though.

Well this is an interesting point, because on one hand, you have the VR initiative, and on the other, you have the high-end monitor initiative; I wonder which is going to win out or whether they'll co-exist happily. I mean, monitors obviously will always be the versatile solution, particularly for extended use. And there are probably games like RTSs where VR would be more of a neat parlor trick and not really add much to gameplay.

If it's a question of, you have $300 or $400, which upgrade do you pick, I wonder what I would do.

 

[mannerbot]

It's only $2.50. If you want it, use the 20% off coupon and go to town.

It's excluded from the 20% off coupon on the front page, not sure if there's another one out there?

I'd give you mine if I could as I know I am not using it.

Appreciate the offer but I think the coupon codes are bound to account.