Chance Hale
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For anyone who has finished Wasteland 2, how long is
relative to the first section of the game?
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The issues with the pc port have largely been fixed by modders.
They cannot adjust anything that exists in your computer.
Weltall Zero
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So there's a roguelike sale right now and, um, it seems I really like roguelikes:
Anyone has any particular recommendations from the ones I don't own?
Anyone has any particular recommendations from the ones I don't own?
InfiniteNine
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I got it to try the style switch mod and it still doesn't run proper on my hardware config with mods.
Freedom = $1.05
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Did you play RER1? If so, how does it compare?
I liked RER for what it was even if it was pretty uneven at times.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Maniac mentioned that some of the mods he's been using got pulled and transitioned to the new subscription model. Even if this sort of thing weren't automated on Valve's end, it would be trivially easy to remove an existing mod and add a "new" one (the same one) with a subscription cost.
I mean if you still have the files saved that's one thing, but I think the Skyrim launcher will look at your existing workshop subscriptions and (maybe?) even delete the ones you're no longer subscribed to.
Right (and I sound dumb after re-reading my question). I guess I don't have a lot of energy to hate this, since you can just keep using the mods you've had downloaded already. If you really love those 456 Skyrim graphics mods that make it look different/better/colorful, keep using them. If someone releases a better one, read the reviews to see if it's decent and make an educated purchase, knowing you can get a refund if it's not up to snuff.
derExperte
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Sunless Sea, Heavy Bullets and Isaac.
So there's a roguelike sale right now and, um, it seems I really like roguelikes:
Anyone has any particular recommendations from the ones I don't own?
Isaac Redux and Sunless Sea are both held in high regard, although it'd probably be worth holding out on the latter given the Summer Sale is only a couple of months or so away.
Backlogger
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I am of the free market point of view. If the cost of the mod exceeds the value of enjoyment I think I might get from it I won't buy it. Simple as that. No offense taken. If they want to charge for their work then they will need to create mods that people want and are willing to pay for.
BronzeWolf
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So there's a roguelike sale right now and, um, it seems I really like roguelikes:
Anyone has any particular recommendations from the ones I don't own?
Eldritch, Heavy Bullets, Tower of Guns and Abyss Odyssey
yeah i don't necessarily think it's wrong for modders to be payed for this, it just feels bad because modding is something that didn't use to be a business and businesses kind of ruin everything :T
i think they have many points in common in how they're predominantly "girly", story-driven games with very light gameplay and both very hipsterish styles
i dunno what's so hard to see about comparing the two
they're usually challenging, somewhat rng driven and have some rpg elements tied to them, tho that's not always the case
examples: spelunky, binding of isaac, ftl, dungeons of dredmore, dungeon of the endless
i suppose you mean they compared the two?
i think they have many points in common in how they're predominantly "girly", story-driven games with very light gameplay and both very hipsterish styles
i dunno what's so hard to see about comparing the two
a roguelike's commonly referred to as a permadeath game in which you traverse procedurally generated dungeons or situations
they're usually challenging, somewhat rng driven and have some rpg elements tied to them, tho that's not always the case
examples: spelunky, binding of isaac, ftl, dungeons of dredmore, dungeon of the endless
Stop with the doomsday scenarios. This won't kill modding and it won't stop free mods from existing.
Tizoc
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Ay yo wtf
http://store.steampowered.com/app/365170/?snr=1_4_4__106
They put up the Ogrest animated special on Steam
http://store.steampowered.com/app/365170/?snr=1_4_4__106
They put up the Ogrest animated special on Steam
Mavromatis
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Well if the modder wants you to buy the paid one s/he can just make the free one an empty file. When the free mod is updated yours will too and voila you now got a brand new nothing, or maybe a link to the paid mod explaining that you now gotta pay.
The only thing Uplay needs to do for me right now is allow you to move games to different drives. Having to re-download Farcry 4 for the 4th time is encouraging me to just not play it.
Dsyndrome
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I was going to put a link to the Wikipedia page for Roguelikes, but apparently game stuff on there is now blocked at my work.
TheLetdown
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They're characterized by permanent death and procedurally generated maps. The true definition requires it to be turn-based RPG, but the more modern usage of the term doesn't require that.
Jawmuncher
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I guess I just don't see them as being that similar at all.
jaundicejuice
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If you're an artist and you can make money making cosmetic mods or dota hats or a designer/programmer that can make a conversion mod or whatever versus working in a "proper" game studio, like good money, I'd say make mods or hats. If you can work at your own pace, not have to do crunch for months on end, be able to see your friends, family and loved ones and make decent money, then why in the fuck would you ever want to work at a studio? I say this having worked in the game industry at a proper studio on a game many people here have enjoyed and continue to talk fondly of.
At a proper game studio you are going to be a contractor, and in some cases you are a contractor even though your position is full-time. You will be let go at the end of the project, maybe kept around for a bit longer if there's planned DLC, but you constantly have to be aware of your contract end date and what the studios plans are for the near future and if those involve you. Do they like you and the work you do? Do they have another project lined up with space for you possibly in it? If they don't have another job for you lined up, but they're more than willing to hire you back when they do, what do you do in the interim? Take some time off because you're feeling crazy burned out from a year of crunch time? If not, what other studios in town are hiring? If there are no other studios in town, what nearby ones are? No studios in or around the city you are in, what about another state or province? Another country? You constantly have to be hustling, and moving quite possibly, to make sure you stay employed. And you can get hired into crunch after just heavily crunching on your last project.
Or you can make doto hats and earn a good living off of that. I say this being ignorant of what the constraints and process is like beyond some people seem to be making a decent living at it.
I just stated I expected paid mods to succeed, but I only see it making sense for larger scale projects like Skywind but then people bought horse armor so they'll probably buy whatever. That Bethesda would be profiting by doing nothing, nothing about free mods ceasing to exist and that I personally would not be likely to pay for a mod since I barely use them. Thar be no Doomsday there.
At a proper game studio you are going to be a contractor, and in some cases you are a contractor even though your position is full-time. You will be let go at the end of the project, maybe kept around for a bit longer if there's planned DLC, but you constantly have to be aware of your contract end date and what the studios plans are for the near future and if those involve you. Do they like you and the work you do? Do they have another project lined up with space for you possibly in it? If they don't have another job for you lined up, but they're more than willing to hire you back when they do, what do you do in the interim? Take some time off because you're feeling crazy burned out from a year of crunch time? If not, what other studios in town are hiring? If there are no other studios in town, what nearby ones are? No studios in or around the city you are in, what about another state or province? Another country? You constantly have to be hustling, and moving quite possibly, to make sure you stay employed. And you can get hired into crunch after just heavily crunching on your last project.
Or you can make doto hats and earn a good living off of that. I say this being ignorant of what the constraints and process is like beyond some people seem to be making a decent living at it.
I just stated I expected paid mods to succeed, but I only see it making sense for larger scale projects like Skywind but then people bought horse armor so they'll probably buy whatever. That Bethesda would be profiting by doing nothing, nothing about free mods ceasing to exist and that I personally would not be likely to pay for a mod since I barely use them. Thar be no Doomsday there.
If a Workshop subscription is deleted but you're still subscribed to it then it will still work (providing it's compatible) but you more than likely will have Steam stuck in an update loop due to the content not matching up or more over existing their end. SkyUI was like that for me and I just put up with a failed download whilst I had Skyrim installed.
BronzeWolf
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Final Fantasy IV: The After Years is now available on GreenManGaming.
Includes a Steam key, and comes to $11.52 after coupon 20OFFM-ATTHEW-HATTON.
Includes a Steam key, and comes to $11.52 after coupon 20OFFM-ATTHEW-HATTON.
You can kind of sort of do that now, its just a bit of a pain. I did it earlier for Watch_Dogs, and I had to copy the files to the new drive, uninstall the game in uPlay, set the new default drive location in uPlay preferences then go to re-download.
It will discover the existing files and you'll be good to go, but they still need to implement a system like Steam has.
Rogue, NetHack, ADOM, TOME?
Ay yo wtf
http://store.steampowered.com/app/365170/?snr=1_4_4__106
They put up the Ogrest animated special on Steam
Now they just need to put Wakfu and then I can tell all of you to watch this awesome cartoon.
well i don't know what to tell you
you seem really stubborn about not accepting the similarities the two games have for some reason
i mean
if you were old you would know the original rogue
so you're just weird
Watching you repeat the same thing over and over and over reminded me why I stopped playing this game after about 15 minutes.
and the motion sickness didn't help.
BronzeWolf
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I had a SuperNES Ok, and also had to walk 10 miles to school everyday, so not THAT old.
Dsyndrome
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Paid early access mods already for Skyrim.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=161319136&postcount=605
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=161319136&postcount=605
Jawmuncher
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Well you didn't exactly explain what Girly and hipster is for both of these games.
Only thing I understand is story driven light gameplay but that's a broad comparison. Evident when there were comparisons to Walking Dead as well.
Tizoc
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Still seems to be interest in ME4 though
At least you wont have to look far for your next avatar
Mr. Luchador
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Mr. Luchador and Steamgaf's GOTY (but what year was it?
What was it?
Newsflash: Free mods still exist.
Majukun
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the question is : for how long?
If you really think every mod is going to be paid, then, well, you are wrong.
But if you really think so then go to the Nexus and go on a downloading binge and keep the mods backed up.
well both games are coming-of-age stories about teenager girls. gone home deals more with sexuality and lis seems to be more about accepting yourself, confidence and such, tho i felt the first episode hinted a relationship between chloe and her other friend
i've heard people call both games hipsterish a lot, because of its subject matter and their art styles with like folksky friday night lights americana thing or its 90s throwback casette tape stuff in gone home's case
also that doesn't mean lis isn't also very much like twd since both games play so similarly, it's why most people's immediate reaction was to think of both twd and gone home, they're not mutually exclusive!
cool
don't know that one tho
i mean, as someone that really liked mass effect's universe i'd definitely be interested in a new game
tho i don't have much trust in bioware being able to replicate what made me1 great, i would like to see what they come up with for the series and how they figure out what the next step is after shepard
also shut up
You're jesting, but the Ogrest special was partly animated by Madhouse.
Easton Dark
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It is indeed the worst fight of the game if you don't count Bed of Chaos. You can cut off centipede's arm that he impales with from long range and get the orange ring during the fight so you can walk on the lava, but how the fuck is someone going to know that.
Weltall Zero
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Thanks for the recommendations. I own Isaac Reborn and Tower of Guns from PS+ already, will check the others.
Rogue and the term roguelike are from the early 80s, so it's more likely you're too young to know about them. Also a Google or Wikipedia search would have taken you less keypresses that writing that post.
Don't know why you keep waving the age card, I'm 38 and I've played all of those. Missing out on Spelunky and FTL is a huge disservice you're doing to yourself, those are my most played non-MMO PC games of the last decade.
You know what an MMO is, right?
Kiru is right.
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