Mr. Luchador
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The Valve Heel turn has been a longtime coming.
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steam | April 2015 - Orange, you glad its morningbus? No.
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meanwhile at the nexus:
* hosting for a pretty much infinite amount of mods
* more easy to browse site than valve's thing
* good ways to give the best mods and the recent mods exposure with "mod of the month" voting and "top recent mods" and highlight videos and interviews to modders and stuff
* you can donate to modders and 100% of the money goes ot them
* they have game-specific forums that allow a modding community to thrive
* easy-to-use client for the big games like new vegas and skyrim so installing mods is really easy
* modding wikis to help people make mods
* probably more stuff i don't know of
and it's 100% free with non-intrusive ads
sadly the only thing that valve provides to justify their 25% cut is the monopoly they have over pc gaming
* hosting for a pretty much infinite amount of mods
* more easy to browse site than valve's thing
* good ways to give the best mods and the recent mods exposure with "mod of the month" voting and "top recent mods" and highlight videos and interviews to modders and stuff
* you can donate to modders and 100% of the money goes ot them
* they have game-specific forums that allow a modding community to thrive
* easy-to-use client for the big games like new vegas and skyrim so installing mods is really easy
* modding wikis to help people make mods
* probably more stuff i don't know of
and it's 100% free with non-intrusive ads
sadly the only thing that valve provides to justify their 25% cut is the monopoly they have over pc gaming
Almost like every implementation for steam ever then.
Someone with more talent than me shop Valve on Rollins, Skyrim on Reigns and Neogaf on Ambrose
Actually I guess Neogaf is Reigns and Skyrim is the confused Ambrose, it's not Skyrim's fault I guess ^_^
Oh fuck this.
LurkerPrime
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The Nexus' ascent has been fantastic, especially since it's more than just Bethesda titles now.
It'll be really interesting to see how/whether the modding communities split.
Chance Hale
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The transformation of the canyon in Wasteland 2 if you let the monks
is really neat. Excited to get to the second major area of the game now that the wonkiness of Act 2 has been ironed out.
Laughed at one of the other options where you can also
and when you get to the camp all of the monks have been slaughtered by bandits because they lost their ace. Their leader's reaction "You fucking suck"
accidentally set off the nuclear bomb
Laughed at one of the other options where you can also
disarm the bomb
PetriP-TNT
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And Nexus is more fucked than anything when / if Bethesda decides to start throwing C&D letters around and / or demanding a 50% cut of their advertising fees
My face all outcomes: :/ |
They could also, you know, tripple their income by putting 3rd party ads on the client / site.
My face all outcomes: :/ |
They could also, you know, tripple their income by putting 3rd party ads on the client / site.
lashman
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Battlefield Hardline on PC gets a 40% price cut on Origin
holy shit ... that game must've bombed HARD!!!
holy shit ... that game must've bombed HARD!!!
LurkerPrime
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Potentially related to the Hardline crater: Sonic is back.
You know its a bomba when a 16 year old game like counter strike peaks at 5x as much daily users compared to your 2015 AAA shooter.
EA pls
rekt
NightmareTrigger
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The numbers on PC are around/lower than the 360/PS3 versions.
PepsimanVsJoe
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If Bethesda is half as stupid as everyone thinks they are, they'll do just that.
....and then wonder why their next game sells a few million less copies than Skyrim.
The Nexus is the #1 reason why Skyrim has the legs that it does.
Besides, even if Beth manages to kill Nexus, it'll lead to absolute chaos. It's like that gif where the guy squashes the spider, which causes thousands of its babies to escape. Have fun trying to sort that mess out.
At 6:30 in the morning, in bed. Give me a couple of hours and I'll hit you up on Steam.
£29.94, so the price PC games used to be before EA jacked their prices up. Of course the price for the Premium version is still too much for me by a long way. Funnily this has been the only Battlefield other than 2142 that I haven't been there day 1. Campaign looked interesting compared to 3 & 4 but the meat and potatoes, the multi, really didn't do it for me in both of the betas I played.
PetriP-TNT
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I think it's well established that ZeniMax is chaotic evil spawn of satan, so I can already see it happening. It's sad really.
so now that i think about it
is valve personally curating which mods can be sold?
so like
greenlight still exists for games
and valve is putting people to personally curate mods
the more you think about it lol...
i want to give valve the benefit of the doubt but this is pretty darned irredeemable
why would valve open the floodgates to yet another issue of lack of curation is beyond me but i guess whether people buy these things or not will say if it's a success or a disaster
beth is not dumb
is valve personally curating which mods can be sold?
so like
greenlight still exists for games
and valve is putting people to personally curate mods
the more you think about it lol...
sadly seems to be the case
i want to give valve the benefit of the doubt but this is pretty darned irredeemable
probably not, we'll see
why would valve open the floodgates to yet another issue of lack of curation is beyond me but i guess whether people buy these things or not will say if it's a success or a disaster
i mean i really wish the nexus put ads on their client so they could have even more money and maybe upgrade the site a bit
i doubt they'll do that
beth is not dumb
omg keeps getting better and better
D
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Could someone fill me in real quick about the mod valve thing?
They're going to start charging for some/all/???
They're going to start charging for some/all/???
TheAutomator
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I can already see Fallout 4 coming next year. Day of release having hundreds of mods costing hundreds of dollars. + Season pass + bonuses. Pay $300 in order to fully enjoy the game. pay another $100 couple months later when new mods come out.
Dark times ahead D:
just some mods
The only reason this whole thing was done was so that Valve makes more money for doing no extra work.
As many other things they have done, it's smart and people will support them.
This isn't a kind gesture for the modders.
PhysX intensive games are coming and i was thinking to use my old GTX260 as dedicated PhysX card but then i realised that i only have 500W PSU
And regarding paid mods on Steam. Do Valve need to have contract or something with publisher/developer before implementing payed mods on Workshop? If developer/publisher refuses this deal can Valve still implement new system?
And regarding paid mods on Steam. Do Valve need to have contract or something with publisher/developer before implementing payed mods on Workshop? If developer/publisher refuses this deal can Valve still implement new system?
NingenJanai
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PepsimanVsJoe
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Another thing I find amusing about this whole debacle.
The Nexus community frowns on pirates, and will not assist anyone attempting to use mods on a pirated copy of skyrim (or any other game). Hell, most Nexus mods probably don't even work on illegally-downloaded games.
I can't believe that there wasn't a single person at Bethesda and/or Valve that said "Um...this is a bad idea."
So far all they've managed to accomplish is turn the modder/consumer communities against each other for a hot second.
The Nexus community frowns on pirates, and will not assist anyone attempting to use mods on a pirated copy of skyrim (or any other game). Hell, most Nexus mods probably don't even work on illegally-downloaded games.
I can't believe that there wasn't a single person at Bethesda and/or Valve that said "Um...this is a bad idea."
So far all they've managed to accomplish is turn the modder/consumer communities against each other for a hot second.
texhnolyze
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What if the modders at nexus went "fuck this, I'm going to steamworks"?
I mean, why create mods for free if you can get paid for those?
This is the only outcome I can imagine at this rate.
Valve have opened the pandora box.
PhysX intensive games are coming and i was thinking to use my old GTX260 as dedicated PhysX card but then i realised that i only have 500W PSU
And regarding paid mods on Steam. Do Valve need to have contract or something with publisher/developer before implementing payed mods on Workshop? If developer/publisher refuses this deal can Valve still implement new system?
Chances are a 260 as a dedicated PhysX card would make things worse that doing calculations on a single, fast GPU. It's a bit long in the tooth and I've found for the best results you need the cards to be close together or really good at compute tasks like a 580. Funnily Arkham Origins ran better for me using one card to render and one card to calculate than SLI if they're both matched. In the room where you fight Deathstroke using either a single GPU or SLI I would get 40-50fps where as using one to render and one to calculate got me 60-70fps on the same setting. Lost a lot of grunt in non PhysX situations but stopped the wild framerate fluctuations.
That'll be a dark day for PC gaming.
NingenJanai
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Thanks, guess I'll reserve it for that hidden object game >_<
why create mods in the first place?
not everything in life is about money, unfortunately valve comes in and abuses its monopoly to force it to be the way they want it, but obviously do it sloppily like usual and unfortunately in a way that screws the people that are actually doing any work here
Maybe we should move to Origin and Uplay ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Chairmanchuck
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I actually wondered who decided this shit. I mean actually from what I recall Gaben said something along the lines that free maps and mods by gamers are whats keeping games afloat after a while.
This move seems totally like everything what Valve once stood for.
texhnolyze
Banned
You have a point, people are modding for the community in the first place.However, it's different now, they have a choice.
I guess all we can do now is to trust that the modders on nexus will be willing to continue to do what they've been doing all these years, for pc gamers.
PetriP-TNT
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I still don't see what has changed. Non-free mods have been around for ages. The Valve cut is the same. Zenimax gonna Zenimax. Only thing I could imagine that's grey area is removing the donation links, but even that is most likely Zenimax pulling the strings.
unfortunately we're kind of screwed at this point
imagine a world in which ea and ubi weren't so shit as to actually try to compete with steam rather than just steal sales from them
lol so good
i mean, i'm not necessarily against charging for mods but there's just too much questionable stuff around it
be it the 25% thing, how the mods are reviewed, whether valve will fail again to stop scammers to ruin their store, how this divides teh community, etc.
and like how it feels like it goes against the whole idea of what modding is
we'll see how it goes, i would love for mods to get the recognition and money they deserve for their hard work
unfortunately all that money's going to bethesda right now
there'll be a bit of a divide, i guess
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ahh d'oh!
Can't comment on that then since I don't use it.
Holy shit.
Just wow.
lashman
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ever wanted to play GTA V as a fluffy kitty? well then ... today's your lucky day
NingenJanai
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$1 to wishlist a game. You get $0.50 back if you buy the game.
Steam becoming a subscription service confirmed.
Tizoc
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Look at that cute little guy <3
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
dat music
phoenix296
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lol
TheAutomator
Banned
i wonder how many months until steam charges for online multiplayer? i think its coming
the end is coming
haha so good
lashman
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I'm pretty sure they're gonna make people pay for guides next ... mark my words
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