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GTA5 PC stay winning with it's dope PC exclusive settings that make a legit difference.
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GTA5 PC stay winning with it's dope PC exclusive settings that make a legit difference.
That sentence is almost a PC gaming ad.
CDPR falling out of favour and R* rising up in the ranks. What a time to be alive.
looks gorgeous to me, markedly less "foggy" and atmospheric than the old trailers and walkthroughs but still super pretty
imo developers don't need to waste their time making sure games look specially beautiful in pc when they look this great already
Issue is that looks like PS4 version but it demands batter hardware. Also i didn't expect this from PC oriented studio. Yes game still looks good but CDPR disappointed me.
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CDPR falling out of favour and R* rising up in the ranks. What a time to be alive.
Max Payne 3 was a phenomenal port as well. 2 points of data are enough to make a trend in my book so I suspect Red Dead Redemption 2 will be incredible on PC.
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That's pretty disappointing if it doesn't look that much difference but requires a 970/980 to run at 1080p/60fps. Not sure if I want to know what this means for how my game will look running the minimum card. ;-;
Yeah, I know. It ran like a dream on my 570.
better hardware is probably cos 1080p 60 fps?
i really don't get why people have the need to have the pc version be "superior" to the console one
The Red Wizard
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Isn't it also running at twice the frame rate on PC?
PC hardware is already 2,3,5 times better than console hardware and this is year 2 of console cycle and we are still getting same visual experience on PC. That is just disappointing and doesn't make sense.
But can you stop after just one chip?
toddhunter
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What exactly are you after with all this?
it does make sense, cdpr just didn't do extra work for the percentage of players that would notice the difference, provided they have the computer to run it, because that's probably not that many people which makes it not the greatest allocation of time and money
i can understand it being disappointing but you're still getting a really good looking game that you'll be able to play at a much better framerate and at a better resolution, and it's likely gonna be moddable too. it's probably even gonna get an enhanced edition in a year or two with dx12 or some shit i bet.
expecting cdpr to put all the extra work into making the pc version "superior" just for that small subset of people that care is pretty unrealistic methinks
He is Daniel Kaffee and CDPR is Nathan Jessup.
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The crux of the issue for many comes from a video shown to the press flaunting a lot of tech that was drastically reduced or removed entirely from the game, and CDPR has been insisting that none of it has been removed or reduced at all. I've spoken up against their awful PR before and this is just another case where they could have avoided a lot of frustration leading up to launch if they didn't dangle the carrot up until the last minute.
For example, a video came out a day or two ago comparing a PC build with the release PS4 build. CDPR had it taken down because they claimed they didn't know what PC build it was. All of the new PC footage that has surfaced (somehow) is showing exactly what that video showed. They're also not supplying PC review sites with codes until the morning of launch or after launch day, which is another red flag. I don't particularly care about all that, but I have to admit I can see how that looks and sounds suspicious.
I don't find it unreasonable that enthusiasts would want a superior version with tech that takes advantage of higher end hardware on the PC end, especially since that's what CDPR claimed we'd get two years ago. They were, after all, one of the spearheads during Witcher 2's launch for the advantages and strengths of the PC platform. To each their own though!
Just uh, don't look in the downgrade thread. Really nothing but toxicity, torches and pitchforks. Kinda like a farmland mob.
I'm in agreement with zkylon. CDPR obviously planned this as multi-platform from the start, and didn't want to invest the man-hours to put in features that only a small percentage of their userbase would be able to benefit from.
I'm still running on a 3 year old card and am able to run most games at max settings, or at least something comparable to the current gen consoles. I'm just glad to be able to pay less for my games than I would to get a similar (or lesser) experience on a console.
I'm still running on a 3 year old card and am able to run most games at max settings, or at least something comparable to the current gen consoles. I'm just glad to be able to pay less for my games than I would to get a similar (or lesser) experience on a console.
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What if the Witcher 3 was delayed because it just wasn't finished and those performance enhancements were just them downgrading?
I just wanted to point out that difference in hardware power should be used better.
There are two issues in my opinion. First one is that we already saw better version of this game running so tech and assets were there. Why did they decided to change them we don't know but they existed and they could use it for PC version. Second issue is no matter how low profit was for W1 and W2 PC gamers raised CDPR with W1, W2 and GOG. Little appreciation for PC platform would be nice.
Also as i said before i will for sure play game and enjoy and so will many others because W3 is good game and it looks nice.
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Also on that note there is a dedicated anime thread.
Just saying.
Ok thanks for pointing that out, I hope we all take that to heart with the games we are currently producing.
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There's also anime games on Steam. C'mon now, todd.
maybe someone should make an all the "ppl talk about things i don't like!!" complaining goes here thread
everyone would be happy if they didn't overpromise but developers keep pushing graphics and ppl keep eating it all up so it never changes
like i keep saying, developers, pls downgrade as much as you can so i can run your games
downgrade your games all the way to ps2 era for all i care
it's messed up that developers do false advertising so call them out on that if you want, but i don't really think cdpr "owe" pc gamers anything
i mean, sure, it's false advertising and feel free to call them out for that, developers themselves force these situations by (deliberately) not warning ppl that the in-development builds they use for demoing their games are probably gonna get chopped pretty hard as development moves on, specially since the final game looks amazing anyways, so there's not really that much need to oversell it when it looks so good anyways
everyone would be happy if they didn't overpromise but developers keep pushing graphics and ppl keep eating it all up so it never changes
like i keep saying, developers, pls downgrade as much as you can so i can run your games
downgrade your games all the way to ps2 era for all i care
i don't know, it's not like ppl supported cdpr with donations or whatever. they made good games and ppl bought them. "little appreciation" would be nice but i don't really think it should be expected
it's messed up that developers do false advertising so call them out on that if you want, but i don't really think cdpr "owe" pc gamers anything
It's the thought that counts.
Once again, agreed. That looks hella fun, and a quick way to get around in certain areas.
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Without PC gamers there would be no Witcher 3 so yeah I do think we can feel a bit entitled. We put the team on our back and now they act like we didn't play carry for the last five years.
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Talking about Witcher 3 downgradeathlon, I see.
So... hmm... RB2 pushed to June means I have no game planned. Just got betrayed by Sejong and Nebu on late immortal civ v game, kinda felt burned out, I'll get them later. Summer Sale is still month or two away. I'm bored, do something volvo.
Talking about Witcher 3 downgradeathlon, I see.
I kinda have feeling that CDPR will soon suffer what Valve experienced before, going so big they make their initial fanbase feel left out. I kinda understand why they opt-in to parity, and why some PC crowds feel betrayed.
So... hmm... RB2 pushed to June means I have no game planned. Just got betrayed by Sejong and Nebu on late immortal civ v game, kinda felt burned out, I'll get them later. Summer Sale is still month or two away. I'm bored, do something volvo.
I post some things here because some SteamGAF members doesn't want to visit Gaming section. I don;t want to create another W3 downgrade thread i just post interesting new info here.
i own witcha1 boxed, on steam and on gog, so cdpr owes me fox ears for ciri
i think it's ok, ppl here care about that
it's just that my impression from watching those videos is "this is a beautiful game"
kind of the same that happened with watch dogs, really
I guess. The biggest issue my latent mind thought there was was downloading and patching
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I don't really care about the number of people who own a superior PC, I care about the fact that my PC is like 2-3 times more powerful than my ps4 and that other devs have respected that difference with their games.
Only advantage that consoles have is 8GB of DDR5 unified memory. Everything else PC old few years beats without issue. Many are using i3 + 750Ti as benchmark and often that configuration beats consoles. So i would say there is significant number of people that own PC more powerful than PS4.
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Well, at least there's going to be Star Citizen
and Ashes of Singularity I guess
I don't think the two are comparable at all.
and Ashes of Singularity I guess
I don't think the two are comparable at all.
toddhunter
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Mate, that doesn't make sense. Just leave it in gaming.
I thought W3 downgrade stuff was supposed to stay in that one thread over at gaming.
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Are there leaderboards for Axiom Verge that could be used to get a rough estimate of PS4 sales to compare?
probably not that many
i was looking at the steam survey thingie (store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey) but i don't really understand much about this crap
YianGaruga
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It was "successful" on day 1 on Playstation. It's made by one person so it doesn't have to sell huge amounts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/07/axiom-verge-indie-sales-_n_6992678.html
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lol at valve still using flash for their charts.
Of course not 1=1. Just a gist from me that the problem arise form that their plan is different with what some part of initial fanbase have in mind thus leading them to feel somehow betrayed (in Valve case, they pursue different route, everytime someone said Valve don't make game anymore, a dota player is having fun).
If HL3 released as multiplat and somehow PC ver look comparable or worse than console ver, I can't imagine the riot.
Tizoc
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IIRC it's PS sales made up for the cost of making the actual game.
toddhunter
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It was promoted very heavily on PS4. Worked for me buying it anyway and I'm glad I did.
On steam? It looks a little pricey at the moment but I'm sure it'll pick up over time.
On steam? It looks a little pricey at the moment but I'm sure it'll pick up over time.
The PC version has leaderboards, so I would assume the PS4 version does, too.
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