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Steam prices have now fully changed to US Dollars in Argentina plus 100% in taxes.
3liteDragon
Member
There was a point in time where the country went through 5 presidents in 2 weeks lol, I thought inflation in the west was bad until I heard about Argentina, they're on another level. Hopefully Milei does what he says he's gonna do.
Roni
Member
What happened has nothing to do with politics...well, this is the legacy of the Kirchners, maybe Milei will be able to bring Argentina back from the whole situatuion that the Country is in.
Heimdall_Xtreme wtf are u talking ? he just won the election, he is not the president yet, if u want to blame someone, blame Fernandez.
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Astral Dog
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Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
your avatar heavily influences the way I read your posts
Unknown?
Member
Hell yeah, let's do the same here!! Down with the Federal Reserve!
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Weren't Argentinians switching to the USD anyway? Since their currency was losing value by the day people started trading in USD by themselves.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
well, this is the legacy of the Kirchners, maybe Milei will be able to bring Argentina back from the whole situatuion that the Country is in.
But he is a lunatic, classist, racist who wants to privatize everything.
This was going to happen even if that particular dude had lost. He'll likely be more bark than bite, but who knows?
Either way, the "good" side is this should provide stability to prices...as long as Argentina and Turkey are able to control their inflation. Well, eventually.
The "bad" side, of course, is that'll take time and not all developers/publishers are going to use this new pricing properly. It's not supposed to automatically reflect standard U.S. pricing per se.
Either way, the "good" side is this should provide stability to prices...as long as Argentina and Turkey are able to control their inflation. Well, eventually.
The "bad" side, of course, is that'll take time and not all developers/publishers are going to use this new pricing properly. It's not supposed to automatically reflect standard U.S. pricing per se.
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A.Romero
Member
So Sony can stop me from buying from the American PSN store but Steam needs to switch currency? Steam also has regional DRM but it seems they see all LATAM as the same region. I can gift a game to a friend in Guatemala but not for one in the US, why wouldn't they do something similar in Argentina?
I think they are just setting the normal pricing (which sometimes can be a bitch like the case of Activision) but because of their switch to USD and the taxes seems to be worse.
I think they are just setting the normal pricing (which sometimes can be a bitch like the case of Activision) but because of their switch to USD and the taxes seems to be worse.
Gp1
Member
Milei was elected with a minority in both houses. He's going to need some heavy politics happening behind the curtain to govern.
And dollarize the entire economy of a 40m pops country isn't something simple or that will happen overnight.
Argentina barely has a institutional dollar reserve now.
Talking about Steam prices, from what i saw the prices went up roughly 5 to 10x. Some indie games/dlc costing 1000 pesos went to 10-15 dollar.
It effectively killed Steam in the country.
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Scotty W
Banned
Juan Peron wrecked it in the 40’s. He nationalized the central bank, railways, telecommunications, gas, electricity, fishing, air transport steel and insurance industries. He massively expanded the welfare state.
Argentina has never recovered from this, and is still under under his spell. That famous Afuera video of Milei looks to be him finally ending this tragic nonsense.
FloatingIslands
Member
The current president is Alberto Fernández.
Milei government starts December 10th
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FloatingIslands
Member
Yep, that's why Milei's plan will take between 18 to 24 months to fully adopt USD as main currency.
Also, remember the dollar presented there is not the one that people can buy. The one they can buy is the dollar blue which is close to be double of the one shown in Steam. So taxes put steam price in line with dollar blue
ThisIsMyDog
Member
Eastern EU having western prices for years now but much lower wages.
You will get used to it Messi lovers.
TheDreadLord
Member
Too many public employees and relatively small/weak economies. Need that sweet tax money to pay for all these public services no one asked for. It is almost like all LA country thinks that they are Norway but with a poor African country economy. Argentina, for example, has like 40% of active population working for the gov.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Yep. In Poland we pay western prices with about 3-4x lower income.
Eastern EU having western prices for years now but much lower wages.
You will get used to it Messi lovers.
killatopak
Member
TheDreadLord
Member
It was one of the proposal of the elected president. To be honest, I don’t believe he will. It is actually a pretty dumb idea to loose monetary independence when you are a country that basically lives from commodity exports. Most likely is that they will defunct the current currency and create a new one.
winjer
Gold Member
Same for Portugal.
Steam seems to think all countries in the EU are rich, like Germany and France.
It's really unfair.
FloatingIslands
Member
If you have been lived in Argentina, you would agree on privatizing most of state companies.
About the rest, it's better to get to the source of information (listen himself speaking) instead of relying on yellow journalism.
ThisIsMyDog
Member
Nah its not Steam, https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/infographs/ict/bloc-4.html <- this fucked us.
winjer
Gold Member
What does that have to do with it?
Prices in Germany and Portugal have different prices for physical goods, despite being a single market for much longer.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Imagine your currency is so bad you end up moving to monopoly money instead 
ThisIsMyDog
Member
Everything, because of this policy steam can't no longer block Germans from buying digital games in Portugal, because it would be illegal. So publishers simply raised prices in poorer regions, and that's how they fixed it.
winjer
Gold Member
But that doesn't excuse Steam pushing prices to it's maximum.
If they were honest, they would average out the purchasing power of all EU members.
That would avoid consumers in poorer countries from getting thoroughly shafted...
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Javier Milei will practically disappear from the State of Argentina: there will be no public education or health services for the people or anything that has to do with rights.
Yes, that guy is a danger to Argentina, apart from being vulgar and crazy.
I do see that things are going to get worse with this guy.
martinzxr
Neo Member
You live in argentina???
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I know politics, especially conservatives.
martinzxr
Neo Member
I live here (in peronian), one outsider guy in two year win the elecctions, becouse the policits here are corrupted. The peoples (55%) choice this, we have 160 170% the inflation in the current year.
If you not live here, you dont anything who is day by day here.
Mira vivo aca en peronia, un loco de afuera de la politica en 2 años les gano las elecciones porque el gobierno actual son todos una mangas de inutiles y ladrones, 160 170% de inflacion en el año, en 4 años de ningun sindicato les hizo paro, ahora seguro que el dia 1 de milei lo van a llenar de paros, porque los kirneristas sin estar en el poder son destructivos, lo unico que hicieron son crear gente pobre porque los utilizan, les dan plata y se hace los salvadores y los politicos mientras estan de vacaciones lujosas, la gente se muere de hambre.
If you not live here, you dont anything who is day by day here.
Mira vivo aca en peronia, un loco de afuera de la politica en 2 años les gano las elecciones porque el gobierno actual son todos una mangas de inutiles y ladrones, 160 170% de inflacion en el año, en 4 años de ningun sindicato les hizo paro, ahora seguro que el dia 1 de milei lo van a llenar de paros, porque los kirneristas sin estar en el poder son destructivos, lo unico que hicieron son crear gente pobre porque los utilizan, les dan plata y se hace los salvadores y los politicos mientras estan de vacaciones lujosas, la gente se muere de hambre.
nial
Member
Because you have the retards coming from the same place govern it over and over again.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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FloatingIslands
Member
Big misunderstanding of what he plans to do.
Do you know that 50% of argentinian kids that finish school don't comprehend texts? Then of what "public" education are you talking about?
What Milei wants to do is a voucher system where families decide where they want their kids to go. That makes each school compete with each other to provide better services so that improves the education system.
Do you know that the government that it's governing right now led the inflation to 140%? (average; there are industries that reached 350% and 650%). Inflation occurs because the government is inefficient and the only way they know how to pay debt is by printing money. Printing money devalues Argentinian peso.
Milei proposes to disband the central bank because it's the organism that dictates the money printing. Together with making US Dollars the official currency you 'remove' inflation (you tie it up with US inflation which is leaps better than the Argentinian).
Most argentinians save in US Dollars so it makes sense to make it the official currency.
Public health services? Really? You never been to Argentina. I invite you to call an ambulance when you're in an emergency and have to wait half an hour for it to arrive.
Milei also proposes the same voucher system as with education. Each citizen decides where to put their taxes money in.
Also he wants to fire every state worker that is a parasite and doesn't do their job.
You shouldn't talk about what you don't know, especially if you haven't ever put a foot in Argentina.
I lived there for 30 years and I had to leave the country because I value my life, the future of my family and I've the luck of being able to move out.
I hope Milei does what he says and we get governments like his for 20 years more so I can some day come back.
Gp1
Member
If you secure enough dollars for the entire economy.
Little Chicken
Banned
Milei will just be like Bolsonaro, who didn't do shit except punch down on the vulnerable and make the country look like a joke.
Guilty_AI
Member
Steam doesn't set the prices, the publishers and developers do.
Unknown?
Member
Socialism punches down on vulnerable.
//DEVIL//
Member
So they are basically killing the gray market.up to 4000% increase in prices for some games.
if someone is on the fence to buy a game from one of those weird websites... do it now lol.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
No dude..With all respect.... Milei is a fcking traitor... a Danger to Argentina...
That guy is crazy, Milei, he is privatizing the health sector, he is deciding to end public education, he wants to end Argentine companies and wants the currency to be in dollars... that guy won the elections Hitler style, deception to the people with high inflation saying that he is going to "Save the country" if he is not interested in the people, but rather in the interests of this misogynistic president who is Milei.
Unknown?
Member
This sounds like propaganda tbh.
Argentinians being fleeced by their government. Hopefully things improve for everyone there.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I mean, they take away that human right that is health, like education... But does this pseudo president have his insurance paid for by the people of Argentina?
.That country is in disaster.
Come On Tars
Member
What was the price equivalent in usd when they would buy in peso? Their bank and government made it almost Venezuela bad so I imagine it was something insane