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Stock-Age: Stocks, Options and Dividends oh my!

Rubenov

Member
Just the short sellers getting off at the new 52 week highs.

In longterm I'm hoping holding out for the earnings report coming up this month. Should be good.

With the parabolic rise, high expectations, and a history of selling off post-earnings (not on the last one of course) I wouldn't go long on the stock now. I wouldn't sell it either though. Probably a buying opportunity if it sells off after earnings.
 

Anno

Member
Woo, let it all burn for awhile. I've got some money laying around that needs a home. Hoping VFC gets a big pullback that I can reasonably buy into.
 

RevoDS

Junior Member
With the parabolic rise, high expectations, and a history of selling off post-earnings (not on the last one of course) I wouldn't go long on the stock now. I wouldn't sell it either though. Probably a buying opportunity if it sells off after earnings.

It's not a parabolic rise. Apple is actually valued lower than it was at this time last year on both a TTM P/E and forward P/E basis.

The only reason it looks that big is that investors panicked when they missed Q4 results and sold to extreme low valuation, and corrected back up on the blowout Q1.

I doubt the P/E will keep expanding, but earnings alone should keep the beast running.
 
Stock gaf, which of the online discount brokerages is the best? Should I go with scottrade, tdameritrade, or etrade?

I need to open my Roth before tax day, so I need to finalize which one I want to use. The other idea I was tossing around is using Vanguard, but honestly I think I am investment savvy enough to do it myself and not deal with their fees. Plus my brother is an investment banker and my aunt is a personal finance specialist so I get plenty of good free advice. I just don't know which of them ranks the best.
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
Wow Apple is in the shitter this week, can't really be from the E-book pricing scheme I don't think that is a major part of their revenue.

Either way might sell after the 24th if they beat earnings expectations.
 

Ashhong

Member
Stock gaf, which of the online discount brokerages is the best? Should I go with scottrade, tdameritrade, or etrade?

I need to open my Roth before tax day, so I need to finalize which one I want to use. The other idea I was tossing around is using Vanguard, but honestly I think I am investment savvy enough to do it myself and not deal with their fees. Plus my brother is an investment banker and my aunt is a personal finance specialist so I get plenty of good free advice. I just don't know which of them ranks the best.

I asked this like three times in here and didn't get an answer. I think it depends on what your needs are. All I needed was to be able to trade stocks once in a while, so price was the most important to me. Because of that, I went with Optionshouse.com. Cheapest rates and good reviews.

Though it takes like 3 days to link your bank account, and another 3 days to deposit money from that account. I'm so sad because STVF went down so much today and I STILL can't buy it.
 

Rubenov

Member
Wow Apple is in the shitter this week, can't really be from the E-book pricing scheme I don't think that is a major part of their revenue.

Either way might sell after the 24th if they beat earnings expectations.

Some analyst saying negative things today about it + German court rule against it + some lingering DOJ effects. I believe next week should be good for AAPL, it always runs up before earnings.
 

CFMOORE!

Member
I asked this like three times in here and didn't get an answer. I think it depends on what your needs are. All I needed was to be able to trade stocks once in a while, so price was the most important to me. Because of that, I went with Optionshouse.com. Cheapest rates and good reviews.

Though it takes like 3 days to link your bank account, and another 3 days to deposit money from that account. I'm so sad because STVF went down so much today and I STILL can't buy it.

made about $650 off it this week. I will probably buy back in on Monday.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I'm back. Hope you guys made a profit on PANL and sold off at the latest high. Hoping it goes back down to 30ish so I can buy in again and ride the next wave up.
 
Some analyst saying negative things today about it + German court rule against it + some lingering DOJ effects. I believe next week should be good for AAPL, it always runs up before earnings.

I also think the less than stellar google earnings may have had something to do with it. That and add the disappointing China growth rate of 8.1% and europe fears. People just want to take some of their profits instead of seeing it all go to shit.

My calls sure went down like crazy the past few days. I'm considering taking a huge loss due to fear of even further drops. I dont know though, this week could be good but analysts are still saying it can go lower. And if earning are not outstanding, oh god...
 

RevoDS

Junior Member
I think AAPL will keep on falling next week. It's been due to correct for a while, and next week is monthly options expiry; it usually falls on such weeks. Besides, the earnings run-up may not apply in a quarter where the share price has risen 50%.

If it does keep falling however, I totally expect a jump after earnings unless they miss (which is, objectively, really really unlikely). Last week's 5% drop is quite simply a good buying opportunity for those who missed the boat.
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
Wow damn Apple, not sure if I should take my profits. Still longterm seems profitable considering they dominate the tablet market which is still in it's infancy.
 

Ashhong

Member
god, that sucks. how long has it been?

First had to link my bank account, which took like 3 days. Then I immediately added funds on the 12th, which I guess takes 3 days also, but then there was the weekend so I assume it doesn't count those 2 days. Regardless...should have been in there today. Tempted to just use my Merrill Edge account which is ready to go...
 

Twie

Member
Seems like its going to be a good time to buy in soonish.
I wonder how far down these drops are going to go though...
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
STVF better not drop again tomorrow even though I'm long it's making me squeamish.

And fucking Apple. I wonder if it can really rally in time for earnings? If it does I may jump off it seems this invincible stock finally has a chink in the armor.
 

CFMOORE!

Member
STVF better not drop again tomorrow even though I'm long it's making me squeamish.

And fucking Apple. I wonder if it can really rally in time for earnings? If it does I may jump off it seems this invincible stock finally has a chink in the armor.

yeah, i'll be tempted to buy up another 1000 of STVF if it drops to like 1.50. It touched 1.59 earlier and i started sweating a bit since it happened right after getting in at 1.75. I am so horrible because i get emotional about all this biz.
 

Twie

Member
It's hard to say, but I wonder if we're going to get a repeat of the Aug-Sept "crash". At the same time, I wouldn't be too surprised if everything levels out in a couple of days. This is making finding a good time to buy rather difficult though. :p
 

Ashhong

Member
when it was in the $7 range I highly considered buying back into it but stayed away. bad decision! could have had some nice gains.

Seems investors are selling off their stock in favor of some UK based social networking game company. I still believe Zynga is a good investment and will be buying in ASAP.

On another note, my money won't be ready to use until Wednesday lol. Strongly considering using another company to buy into STVF while it's low and just transferring it later, even though it costs twice as much per transaction. Gotta check the transfer fees..
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
Seems investors are selling off their stock in favor of some UK based social networking game company. I still believe Zynga is a good investment and will be buying in ASAP.

On another note, my money won't be ready to use until Wednesday lol. Strongly considering using another company to buy into STVF while it's low and just transferring it later, even though it costs twice as much per transaction. Gotta check the transfer fees..

Don't rush it, emotional stock buying is the worst thing to do. Keep a level head and stick to your research.
 

Ether_Snake

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I'm not feeling like buying anything in particular right now. I added to PBR and BHI last week, and will add more to EA if it eventually falls another 10%.
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
I'm not feeling like buying anything in particular right now. I added to PBR and BHI last week, and will add more to EA if it eventually falls another 10%.

Should I be worried about EU as an American investor? Your other thread has got me considering putting limit orders in case shit hits the fan. Want to protect whatever profits I can keep.
 

Biff

Member
Should I be worried about EU as an American investor? Your other thread has got me considering putting limit orders in case shit hits the fan. Want to protect whatever profits I can keep.

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Yes. Of course yes...??? I'm worried that you're asking this question considering how much stock advice you've been giving in this thread.
 

Ether_Snake

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Should I be worried about EU as an American investor? Your other thread has got me considering putting limit orders in case shit hits the fan. Want to protect whatever profits I can keep.

I think nothing is over in Europe until it becomes 100% undeniable to everyone that Greece will default, and at least some countries leave the Euro.

What that means for stocks, no idea. I own no European companies stock.
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
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Yes. Of course yes...??? I'm worried that you're asking this question considering how much stock advice you've been giving in this thread.

The thing is when it was Greece at risk everyday seemed like a struggle to clarity and after several months I personally am no more understanding of the situation in Europe. I don't deal too much with financial services as it's not my strength and I tend to focus on growth stocks.

It just seems that this Europe bullshit is being put off and I am basically eagerly looking for point to jump off. I'm not very good at macro economics is all.

I am also quite worried about China as well, the amount of trust I put into government growth reports is medium as things aren't all that transparent over there. Having toured there a little bit I can honestly say the potential of their housing bubble crash is scary.
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
Would you guys buy APPL at this point or wait until after earnings?

Can't tell you honestly. My average buy in price was $478 so I'm good for now unless it somehow drops $120 by earnings.

All I can say is I may sell after earnings if it gets close to $540ish again.
 

NYR

Member
Can't tell you honestly. My average buy in price was $478 so I'm good for now unless it somehow drops $120 by earnings.

All I can say is I may sell after earnings if it gets close to $540ish again.
So you're expecting it to go down?
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
So you're expecting it to go down?

I'm cautiously optimistic to say the least. If it goes down further I doubt I will lose any profits as I have a decent profit buffer for now but I'm hopeful earnings will rally things up but then again the new iPad isn't in the sales for this report so I may be holding much longer than I will like.
 
STVF is kicking my ass. That's what I get for buying on emotion. I bought my first lot at 2.44 and my second lot at 2.19. It's the biggest loser in my portfolio. The plan is to hold long term though, so I try not to think about it too much.
 

CFMOORE!

Member
STVF is kicking my ass. That's what I get for buying on emotion. I bought my first lot at 2.44 and my second lot at 2.19. It's the biggest loser in my portfolio. The plan is to hold long term though, so I try not to think about it too much.

i bought back in at 1.75 yesterday, i kind of wish i bought some more at 1.40 today, but who knows how much more it may slide.
 

Ashhong

Member
Will finally be able to buy in on STVF tomorrow...hopefully it goes down even more lol. I think if it drops to 1.25$ I will buy in no matter what. It's so low at that point that I dont care if it goes lower.

In a way this funding delay has helped me, since I probably would have bought in at $2 a few days ago. Good stuff!
 

Rubenov

Member
Once again, with the exception of last quarter, AAPL has traditionally sold off after earnings. With the YTD run it has had so far, the situation becomes even more dangerous.

Unless they get a blowout quarter like last one.... who knows. I won't be long or short going into it.
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
Yup getting ready to sell my AAPL shares if it gets back to 640ish.

Glad STVF didn't slide much today but if it does I'm going to buy more to average-down my buy in price.
 

Twie

Member
All this Stevia First talk has me looking into the plant Stevia and I think it's pretty cool.

I haven't seen anyone mention Stevia Corp though.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=STEV.OB

Stevia Corp and Stevia Frist seem like very similar companies, the market caps of both companies are somewhat similar.
Stevia Corp = 88.31M
Stevia First = 78.02M

The similarities go even further though, you should check out both of their websites here.
Stevia Corp: http://www.stevia.co/
Stevia First: http://www.steviafirst.com/


The main difference is that Stevia Corp seems to be more of a "global" company, having just opened up a subsidiary in China.
( http://www.stevia.co/news/news_rele...-in-china-and-appoints-operational-leadership )
Where as Stevia First is proudly touting their American roots.

So what do you guys think? What company has the most potential?
 

Ashhong

Member
I read about Stevia Corp in some big article about 4 different Stevia companies. I forgot what it said but the biggest difference I believe, is that STVF is specializing in growing the crop in USA as well as leading the way to efficient crop growing/cultivating. STVF all the way
 

Zyzyxxz

Member
All this Stevia First talk has me looking into the plant Stevia and I think it's pretty cool.

I haven't seen anyone mention Stevia Corp though.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=STEV.OB

Stevia Corp and Stevia Frist seem like very similar companies, the market caps of both companies are somewhat similar.
Stevia Corp = 88.31M
Stevia First = 78.02M

The similarities go even further though, you should check out both of their websites here.
Stevia Corp: http://www.stevia.co/
Stevia First: http://www.steviafirst.com/


The main difference is that Stevia Corp seems to be more of a "global" company, having just opened up a subsidiary in China.
( http://www.stevia.co/news/news_rele...-in-china-and-appoints-operational-leadership )
Where as Stevia First is proudly touting their American roots.

So what do you guys think? What company has the most potential?

The reason I never brought it up was because it doesn't have much activity but I read up the same things you did. Personally I've kept it on my watch list but have yet to buy into it.

Once I sell off my Apple stock I may invest a small position into STEV as well. Potential for both stocks looks very tempting as growth stocks. My only concern is that will production in Asia be cost effective once you factor in transportation costs and with foreign subsidiaries you always run the risk of government problems and instability which isn't too much risk in Vietnam and China but those are things to consider.
 

Twie

Member
My only concern is that will production in Asia be cost effective once you factor in transportation costs and with foreign subsidiaries you always run the risk of government problems and instability which isn't too much risk in Vietnam and China but those are things to consider.

Yeah, that's a good point. I think I'll be going with STVF myself, but it'll be interesting to see how STEV is going to do.

STEV has also been on the market for ~2months longer (I think) so maybe we can look at STEV's charts to see how STVF might do in the next 1-2 months. (just a thought)
 

ToxicAdam

Member
I've been following a penny stock for a month called SunPeaks Ventures (SNPK). A co-worker brought it to my attention when it jumped out to .40 cents a share. It debuted in early March and since then has been on a tear. It's now at 2.23 a share.

It's an amazing story. This company supposedly has a supplement that can help thin blood. It's only method of distribution appears to be with Wal-green's online website. This company has yet to crack 6 figures in sales.

What makes this valuation so mind-boggling is that the company has no operating history and as of Dec. 31 (its last reporting date) its total assets were only $9,916.

The ostensible reason for the investor excitement is the company’s acquisition in February of Healthcare Distributions Specialists LLC, which the company describes as a “value-added distributor of hard-to-find and specialty drugs.”

Why this business would stimulate investor interest is not clear. Its total revenues for the nine months ending Sept. 30, 2011 (its last reporting date) were only $3,562 and its total assets were just $249,884.

http://www.vancouversun.com/busines...ntroversial+Osoyoos+family/6444357/story.html


If you read that article, it goes on to tell you about some shady people that are associated with the stock/company. So, I highly recommend not investing in this, but it is an absolute fascinating story to watch unfold.
 
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