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Stock-Age: Stocks, Options and Dividends oh my!

CrankyJay

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Microsoft is doing all the right moves on the enterprise side since Ballmer left

might be a good long term investment
No wonder they are struggling at the moment since it will take a year or two before their new direction pays off

Azure is great
Windows 10 looks great
Office 365 offers good value
Windows Phone offers great value, need more social critical app support

Bing still sucks
Xbone, sell the bottomless shithole

Sometimes even when you do good stuff like this it does nothing to influence investor sentiment.
 

TCRS

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tfw you accidently buy the wrong stock and miss the google drop

>.>

it's only a practice account but still.
 

Ether_Snake

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Sold Aapl at 118

Now waiting for HOG's results tomorrow and Goog's today.
 

Smiley90

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I'm not sure if anyone here noticed it but after the announcement of the uncoupling of the Swiss Franc (CHF) from the Euro, it went up about 30% from 1.15
To 1.45.

My family lives there and my dad regularly sends me
Money, I'm getting so much more now lol. Wish I'd
Have kept some of my savings in that currency now... But nobody could've seen that coming. :(
 

Ether_Snake

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The real story today is EA is up 12% in a day.

I wonder when ATVI will see itself sell off Blizzard.

edit: Canadian dollar now at 79. I expect it to reach 76, but that's before the housing bubble actually pops. Then who knows, maybe 65.
 
long time lurker, anyways think this is my first post in this thread,

I already have a pension + 401K through my work, but I am looking to set up another savings elsewhere. I am looking specifically at ETFs.

FTEC - https://screener.fidelity.com/ftgw/etf/goto/snapshot/snapshot.jhtml?symbols=FTEC
DGRO - https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSEARCA:DGRO

I am already buying some VOO and IVV, but I am curious if anyone ever jumped on new invesments shortly after their inception date. If so what do you guys reccommend for a newbie in the field of ETFs?

Thanks.
 

Cloudy

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Should I take my profits on AAPL and buy back next week before the dividend or hold? I am long on the stock but would like to lock in these gains and maybe get it cheaper next week
 

Ether_Snake

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HOG went up 3.7% after earnings, and GOOG is up 2% so far. I'm holding both for now.

Cloudy: If you are long, hold it.

long time lurker, anyways think this is my first post in this thread,

I already have a pension + 401K through my work, but I am looking to set up another savings elsewhere. I am looking specifically at ETFs.

FTEC - https://screener.fidelity.com/ftgw/etf/goto/snapshot/snapshot.jhtml?symbols=FTEC
DGRO - https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSEARCA:DGRO

I am already buying some VOO and IVV, but I am curious if anyone ever jumped on new invesments shortly after their inception date. If so what do you guys reccommend for a newbie in the field of ETFs?

Thanks.

I'm rebalancing this week, and this is how I'll split things:

vug: 40%
vbk: 10%
vnq: 20%
blv: 10%
vgk: 20%

It's still rather growth/risk oriented, but I don't mind. One thing I'm hesitating on is rebalancing everything in one shot. It seems it would make far more sense to sell everything, and reinvest something like 20% of the whole proceeds each month or two months until it's all back in. So in the meantime I'll probably move everything to something fixed other than the first 20%.

edit: McFuck AMZN up 13% daaaaaaaang. At least it confirms again that my bug signal isn't stupid, I just didn't buy.
 

nubbe

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Probably more profitable to buy the oil back than to sell it

It will probably go back to the $50-48 range since nothing has change and inventory is growing larger

seems like someone has been desperate for a price increase since January 14th, the first huge price spike
 

Ether_Snake

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I'm wondering if I should sell DIS. I am up 12% on it, was up a bit higher recently. But I see no reason to sell really, I think they could reach a 200b market cap at least, probably higher over the long term. Who else could challenge them from becoming the omni-entertainment corp?
 

CrankyJay

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I'm wondering if I should sell DIS. I am up 12% on it, was up a bit higher recently. But I see no reason to sell really, I think they could reach a 200b market cap at least, probably higher over the long term. Who else could challenge them from becoming the omni-entertainment corp?

i dunno, i'd sit and hold, plus you're getting a dividend...the shares will pay for themselves over time.
 

Ether_Snake

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i dunno, i'd sit and hold, plus you're getting a dividend...the shares will pay for themselves over time.

Yeah, the dividend should be higher IMO. Earnings tomorrow.

BTW Solar City up 9% today.
 

Ether_Snake

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SSYS absolutely clobbered.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat noooooooooooooooooo. I was already down 28% on it. Of course I also own DDD (down 47% on it), which will get hurt from this. Guess I'm holding for even longer, but I'm not adding soon though because the position is still too big. At least it's supposedly based on investing more.
 
I was in bed last night just thinking to myself, "Whatever happened to all the 3D printer hype?"

Came home today to see the SSYS news, along with the rest of the industry, and it all made sense.

Hang in there Ether. I don't really think it'll get back to $100+ anytime soon for you to breakeven but the industry def. isn't going anywhere.
 

Ether_Snake

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Yeah I'm not worried about the industry, but a company can go down low enough to the point where it either goes bankrupt or eventually get bought out at a much lower price than where it stands now.

One thing I think has hurt DDD and SSYS is the belief that big companies like XEROX or HP will get into the business to beat them, but I don't think it's in any way logical to say XEROX has an advantage because they print stuff. There is almost no overlap between both sectors. XEROX supplies mainly offices, 3D printing is manufacturing, and on the technology front I don't believe anyone will be ahead of either DDD and SSYS enough to warrant investing to beat them over acquiring either.

We'll see.

BTW I bought PG and GS friday before the close since both have fallen too much IMO. CAT is also in interesting territory, but I'm not confident enough in that one right now.
 

CrankyJay

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat noooooooooooooooooo. I was already down 28% on it. Of course I also own DDD (down 47% on it), which will get hurt from this. Guess I'm holding for even longer, but I'm not adding soon though because the position is still too big. At least it's supposedly based on investing more.

How you feel about this is how I feel about OLED (aka PANL)...but since then I've averaged down (had to make it a huge position though and exposed myself) and sold in a out a few times to make some money.
 

Ether_Snake

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At least I'm now down 50% for SSYS and DDD instead of just DDD lol.

But yeah part of me says to add to my position, part of me says "yeah right". If I'm gonna add to any position it's DIG.

Look at this chart; it's the perfect "bubble" chart, it's a perfect match.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=SSYS#symbol=SSYS;range=5y

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I really believe in this chart.

edit: DIS beats estimates.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
What do you guys think are the projections for the Canadian dollar? I'm feeling somewhat smart for having put a lot of my US Index ETF money into Unhedged ETF's because of how much the CAD went down, but I wonder if I should switch it into a hedged ETF soon while it's so low, given that it'll likely go up again at some point, I can't imagine it staying this low for the next 50 years. But what do I know.

Any opinions?
 

Ether_Snake

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I agree, I did the same. But I think the CAD' even if it was to rise again with rising oil prices, would eventually fall again because the housing bubble has to pop. Plus, I don't think oil prices are going back without going back down significantly, I think the current upward movement is a bull trap. And when they go back down, expect the government to lower interest rates again.

But the problem for me is not all the same ETFs are available to be bought with CAD. So I would lose access to a lot of Vanguard's ETFs. I don't want to invest in Canada. So I'll have to find some other providers.

I do think the fed might do something that will lower the USD, like not raising interest rates or not as much as planned. But do I think the CAD is on its way to parity with the USD? No way. I expect it at best to remain in the 80s, but at worst, with a bursting housing bubble to either fall back in the high 70s after having risen back, or drop in the high 60s if it's still low when it happens.
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
I agree, I did the same. But I think the CAD' even if it was to rise again with rising oil prices, would eventually fall again because the housing bubble has to pop. Plus, I don't think oil prices are going back without going back down significantly, I think the current upward movement is a bull trap. And when they go back down, expect the government to lower interest rates again.

But the problem for me is not all the same ETFs are available to be bought with CAD. So I would lose access to a lot of Vanguard's ETFs. I don't want to invest in Canada. So I'll have to find some other providers.

I do think the fed might do something that will lower the USD, like not raising interest rates or not as much as planned. But do I think the CAD is on its way to parity with the USD? No way. I expect it at best to remain in the 80s, but at worst, with a bursting housing bubble to either fall back in the high 70s after having risen back, or drop in the high 60s if it's still low when it happens.

true, but there's some - VDU/VEF, VFV/VSP, VUN/VUS as the big ones. Probably going to stick with the unhedged ones for now... But I'm really not sure where the CAD is heading.
 

XLNC

Member
What do you guys think are the projections for the Canadian dollar? I'm feeling somewhat smart for having put a lot of my US Index ETF money into Unhedged ETF's because of how much the CAD went down, but I wonder if I should switch it into a hedged ETF soon while it's so low, given that it'll likely go up again at some point, I can't imagine it staying this low for the next 50 years. But what do I know.

Any opinions?

I remember reading a CCP article about why using CAD-hedged funds isn't a good idea as they usually have a pretty high tracking error compared to non-hedged ETFs, which can wipe out any benefit from currency hedging. I was thinking about it too but reading that made me a lot less inclined.

Here's the link: http://canadiancouchpotato.com/2014/03/06/why-currency-hedging-doesnt-work-in-canada/
 

Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
I remember reading a CCP article about why using CAD-hedged funds isn't a good idea as they usually have a pretty high tracking error compared to non-hedged ETFs, which can wipe out any benefit from currency hedging. I was thinking about it too but reading that made me a lot less inclined.

Here's the link: http://canadiancouchpotato.com/2014/03/06/why-currency-hedging-doesnt-work-in-canada/

interesting, thanks for the read. I'll just continue doing what I've been doing then! (though I DO have half of my non-NA international ETF's hedged and half unhedged, just in case. kind of too late to switch everything to unhedged now, might take a look at it next time the Canadian dollar is strong.)
 

sc0la

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I am sad the first post got cleaned up. I enjoyed re reading if sometimes because it was dated :/

Also lol when this thread started Apple was like 1/10th it's current price.
 

Ether_Snake

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I held VFV until recently, made so much more than VSP. Basically more than doubled the S&P's return.
 
went ahead yesterday and bought a few energy ETFs, trust in big oil B)
Its bound to rebound at some point, all those layoffs and r&d delays will only cause price to go up.
 
My Vanguard Total International ETF has gotten murdered the past year, but being +40% on both Apple and Google has been awfully nice. Still wish I owned more Boeing because god damn.
 

Ether_Snake

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I'm wondering if I should sell DIS. I am up 12% on it, was up a bit higher recently. But I see no reason to sell really, I think they could reach a 200b market cap at least, probably higher over the long term. Who else could challenge them from becoming the omni-entertainment corp?

Welp I'm now up 26% on it. Nice. But it makes me think I should sell and just push that money into my ETFs. Then again, I believe in that eventual 200B market cap.
 

Ether_Snake

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Well, if it means anything, I'm up a bit over 300% on DIS and I'm still holding onto it.

Yeah but the % itself doesn't mean anything, it's more about where the company stands now and where it may be heading, what challenges it might face, and if I can sell and buy again later for cheaper, and also what's happening in the global markets. I think on one hand DIS is likely to plateau for some time, but it doesn't mean it will fall. It also represents 23% of my taxable portfolio.
 

GhaleonEB

Member

A trust fund bearing Ms. Jobs's name is Disney's largest shareholder, as it owns 130,181,925 shares, or 7.7% of the entertainment giant's outstanding stock. The trust got its stake when Disney bought Pixar in 2006. With Disney's stock soaring $7.03, or 7.5%, in morning trade, the trust is about $915,178,933 richer. The stock, a component of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, hit an all-time intraday high of $101.43 earlier in the session.
So the fund has over $13b in Disney stock. Good lord.
 
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