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Stock-Age: Stocks, Options and Dividends oh my!
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Does anyone use an accounts aggregator website? I've been using mint.com, which recently added an investments tab with some pretty nice charts. Now I don't need to go separatly to 4 different sites to see how much money I'm losing.
I was wondering if the competitors were any good. Geezeo is the only one I know of that also tracks investments.
I was wondering if the competitors were any good. Geezeo is the only one I know of that also tracks investments.
How does mint.com make money?
I use Bank of America's My Portfolio service to look at my investments, cash flow, etc. But it is not the greatest way to view investments...
Also Fidelity has a "Full View" thing, but I don't think it draws cool charts like the ones you posted...
I use Bank of America's My Portfolio service to look at my investments, cash flow, etc. But it is not the greatest way to view investments...
Also Fidelity has a "Full View" thing, but I don't think it draws cool charts like the ones you posted...
Deku Tree said:
mint.com has a checking, savings, brokers, and credit cards signup page that makes you offers from other companies showing you a comparison of rates of your own accounts versus theirs. I don't think they make a net profit off of just that though. There's probably a plan in place to use all the passwords they've harvested to transfer everything to them, and then fly away to the moon.
speculawyer
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But it is a step down play.sonarrat said:
Yeah, the poor people will run out of money . . . but all the upper & middle-class people will abandon the malls and start flocking to Wal*Mart to make their meager money go further.
Ether_Snake
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Asian Stocks Fall, Extending Global Rout; Nintendo, Sony Drop
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ama5JqWBciBI&refer=home
Japan's Exports Drop Most in Seven Years as Global Recession Intensifies
South Korean Won Falls to Decade-Low, Kospi Slides as Risk Appetite Wanes
I think we will finally see a real big rise in gold soon. I think it's the only place where the value could actually rise based on nothing but a desire for a safe heaven (which doesn't really exist in gold IMO). So I think gold will spike soon, and then drop abruptly again like the last past few bubbles we had this year, cause everyone is in "gotta make my money back quickly and get out but I'll probably still stay in this game cause I always come back to it" panic mode.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ama5JqWBciBI&refer=home
Japan's Exports Drop Most in Seven Years as Global Recession Intensifies
South Korean Won Falls to Decade-Low, Kospi Slides as Risk Appetite Wanes
I think we will finally see a real big rise in gold soon. I think it's the only place where the value could actually rise based on nothing but a desire for a safe heaven (which doesn't really exist in gold IMO). So I think gold will spike soon, and then drop abruptly again like the last past few bubbles we had this year, cause everyone is in "gotta make my money back quickly and get out but I'll probably still stay in this game cause I always come back to it" panic mode.
speculawyer
Member
OK . . . . personally, I'm freaking out. This is worse than anything I've seen in my adult lifetime and I'm older than most of you. :-/
Now I am tempted to pick up some scraps just in case.
http://www.reuters.com/article/busi...Type=RSS&feedName=businessNews&rpc=23&sp=true
http://www.reuters.com/article/busi...Type=RSS&feedName=businessNews&rpc=23&sp=true
Ether_Snake
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Don't worry! Best thing you can is just adjust your spendings accordingly. You got kids too right? So it's alright!
Plus, unlike most movie make it seem, everything has been easier and less painful for society as the decades have passed. Unless you live in a really shit neighborhood I think there is little to worry, no matter how bad it gets.
Poor countries will probably have it really bad, but us not so much. There's no payback universal rule.
EDIT: Oh look at that, ATVI at 9$. I really haven't been keeping up. I think I lost my 80% gains on that one.
Plus, unlike most movie make it seem, everything has been easier and less painful for society as the decades have passed. Unless you live in a really shit neighborhood I think there is little to worry, no matter how bad it gets.
Poor countries will probably have it really bad, but us not so much. There's no payback universal rule.
EDIT: Oh look at that, ATVI at 9$. I really haven't been keeping up. I think I lost my 80% gains on that one.
speculawyer
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Bush sets another record! Woo-hoo!
Synth_floyd
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Deku Tree said:
That can't be! Buffet is god. Reminds me of an old news clip from 2007 with Peter Schiff and some other pundits (including Ben Stein). They were all saying to buy financials. Stein himself said that GS was a bargain. Schiff said all the financials were toxic and to buy hard assets. Not directly related to the WB thing but shows how the conventional wisdom is wrong.
Ether_Snake
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STP down 28% after slashing forecasts. Argh. Oh well. Not surprised.
ADSK earnings tonight.
ADSK earnings tonight.
Deku Tree said:
A CEOs time, even one of a struggling company, is probably worth about $50,000/hr if not much more. It makes economic sense for the company to fly him in a corporate jet.
That was just politicians going for sound bytes and the media needing some inflammatory headlines to get page hits.
RumblingRosco
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When the world falls apart, do you want to be the one that hides in an underground cave, or the first one to start picking up the pieces?
I'm still intending on buying as the market keeps falling. Just holding for some more news on the Big 3 automotives, since that's the next big thing that I think can swing the market (besides bankruptcy announcements, of course).
I'm still intending on buying as the market keeps falling. Just holding for some more news on the Big 3 automotives, since that's the next big thing that I think can swing the market (besides bankruptcy announcements, of course).
lil smoke said:
A bailout I think is still unlikely. This is only a few senators. Besides, trading on news, especially government related news, is basically just gambling. No one has any clue what the terms of a bailout would be even if it goes through. Might as well spin the roulette wheel and bet on odds.
Holy crap, this is some crazy stuff. For those of you who are down like 40% for the year, how are you holding up? I'm down 9% (been very conservative this year) and still slightly annoyed :lol
I've tried both and Yodlee is MUCH better. I quit using mint after a few days but I've been on Yodlee since July 2007 and I use it EVERY day
Deku Tree said:
I've tried both and Yodlee is MUCH better. I quit using mint after a few days but I've been on Yodlee since July 2007 and I use it EVERY day
bggrthnjsus
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the value of my stocks have lost about 25% since the summer (or at least last time i checked and was happy about it lol). this sucks because this is how i have to pay for my education, and i don't see my school lowering tuition anytime soon. on the plus side, i should have access to enough cash to get me through about the next 18 months or so before i have to sell anything, so i might get out of this without actually losing any money. however, it's also kind of annoying at the same time that i need that cash for school and living expenses and i can't buy up all the stocks that are hitting rock bottom right now. it's like i'm missing out on this big opportunity for a long term investment...maybe i can take out a small loan or something.
The entire value of the 2002-2007 bull market has been erased and then gone down some more...
... does Yodlee have cool charts? Bank of America's My Portfolio is excellent in many respects, but their charts are terrible or don't exist. For sure, I can't compare my day to day rate of return vs. any benchmarks...
... does Yodlee have cool charts? Bank of America's My Portfolio is excellent in many respects, but their charts are terrible or don't exist. For sure, I can't compare my day to day rate of return vs. any benchmarks...
speculawyer
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To put it another way . . . the Dow is like 1000 points below where it was when Bush came into office in 2001.Deku Tree said:
I've never invested before but I feel like maybe I should try with prices being so cheap (and falling)? Is it possible to just invest super short-term (like day to day basis) and see small (I'm not relying on the money to live, just kind of want to get my feet wet) and make a profit? If so, what do you guys recommend and what website do you use?
I feel like it'd be fun to buy 100 shares of GM and then sell later in the day if I could actually do that.
I only recently started buying T-bills, which is much more boring...
I feel like it'd be fun to buy 100 shares of GM and then sell later in the day if I could actually do that.
I only recently started buying T-bills, which is much more boring...
XiaNaphryz
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I took a quick peek at my 401k, it's down over 45% for the year, over $10k in market value lost.
I'm only 30 so I'm not too worried about it, but seeing that definitely hit me inside a bit. I still have a good 75% of my 401k focused on stocks, with most of the rest in bonds. I shouldn't need to worry about reallocating anything, right? I probably won't touch any of this for at least another 25+ years.
I'm only 30 so I'm not too worried about it, but seeing that definitely hit me inside a bit. I still have a good 75% of my 401k focused on stocks, with most of the rest in bonds. I shouldn't need to worry about reallocating anything, right? I probably won't touch any of this for at least another 25+ years.
CharlieDigital
Banned
XiaNaphryz said:
Got ya' beat: -51.30% YTD
Ether_Snake
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Wow STP fell 39%, and Ubisoft 10%, BHI down 12%. ADSK down almost 17% in AH after today's 5.8% drop (due to bad outlook).
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Right. I am SO down on everything.
I'm probably buying some ADSK tomorrow.
But it will be without any false impressions. Anything can happen, no one can even guess where the bottom is.
Buffet's purchase of GE and GS shares seemed more like a wild guess on his part, an attempt to stick to his motto instead of actually doing some thinking about the situation, basically a sort of superstitious act based on nothing. Sure he was getting a good deal at the time, but there was nothing indicating that the situation was going to turn around any time soon.
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lil smoke said:
Right. I am SO down on everything.
I'm probably buying some ADSK tomorrow.
But it will be without any false impressions. Anything can happen, no one can even guess where the bottom is.
Buffet's purchase of GE and GS shares seemed more like a wild guess on his part, an attempt to stick to his motto instead of actually doing some thinking about the situation, basically a sort of superstitious act based on nothing. Sure he was getting a good deal at the time, but there was nothing indicating that the situation was going to turn around any time soon.
RumblingRosco
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Every day I keep thinking I should buy GE, and every day it drops in price more and more. Glad I didn't buy in at 19 like I'd first considered.
Come on though, seriously, how much more can GE fall? This is getting insane and really just far too attractive to pass up anymore.
Come on though, seriously, how much more can GE fall? This is getting insane and really just far too attractive to pass up anymore.
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Soka said:
I agree. They have a big debt tho, so it's more about when will they have enough demand to be able to turn around and go up again than how much lower they can get.
speculawyer
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You can say that for just about any stock on the market these days. There are just tons of stocks that seem insanely cheap when using the valuation standards of just a few months ago. The valuation standards have changed massively. There are many stocks selling at prices that are less than the amount of cash they have per share!Soka said:
Ether_Snake
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Maybe China will start buying all those US companies, and have half their population build the stuff, the other half buy the products
Seriously I think the next big significant event or news will be from China. The future of the economy lies on how things are gonna go over there IMO.
Seriously I think the next big significant event or news will be from China. The future of the economy lies on how things are gonna go over there IMO.
RumblingRosco
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speculawyer said:
Yeah, rational investing has gone out the window and fear has taken over. I guess it's working on me too, though, seeing as how I'd have already bought into GE (for example) multiple times now if I wasn't afraid of it still falling. I still think that, by the time I retire, any money I put into the market now will pay off heavily. Of course, it helps I have some 40+ years before I'll reach the standard age of retirement, so I have time to wait it out. :lol
Xisiqomelir
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Buy the triple inverse short ETFs guys. There is no fundamental support for 8k.
Ether_Snake
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ABX up 17%. Gold is rising as I thought it would.
Bought nothing.
Bought nothing.
Battersea Power Station
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Try not to differentiate between the two too much. It's a common fallacy and an easy way to lose money.Cloudy said: