Nope; good writing combined with good storytelling combined with good direction is what makes something compelling.
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Nope; good writing combined with good storytelling combined with good direction is what makes something compelling.
It's the best thing about Meduca, sure
I think you can differentiate between good incidental moment-to-moment writing and larger overall storytelling.
I say give it a shot.
Technical writing is not comparable to narrative writing.
Then how about Goro Miyazaki movie?
I think the translation of thing that I wanna to say is "Its good, its make sense, but its friggin' boring" you see a lot case for that.
That not make it bad writing, but its badly told.
Wut? Sorry, you lost me again.
Ultimadrago
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He didn't become the God Emperor of Shounen by losing, that's for sure.
Basically what 7th said, with bad english.
dakkumauji
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Unless losing is winning. You can't tell these shounens these days.
But he's wrong.
Crash Station
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You're not taking into account that "interesting" and "compelling" are probably some of the most subjective terms you can use in this discussion.
That's a given from the "good writing" part.
Crash Station
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Exactly! So it's true that this is kind of semantics.
It doesn't matter because the entire discussion is "subjective" since some people have terrible taste and actively like stuff which is not good anyway. The quantifier of "good" here already suggests that we are evaluating on a scale which appreciates proper quality. Otherwise there is no discussion at all, nothing else anyone says will matter because of subjectivity.
I guess I just don't view "storytelling" as part of "writing" like most people in this forum do because in my native language, Spanish, they are completely different terms. Writing's equivalent is "escritura", which just means having a good grasp of language; what you do with the language is irrelevant. Storytelling and everything relating to it is "narrativa".
Yet many are.
A lot of the examples you give when pressed in this discussion actually have decent to good direction.
I'm going to call bullshit on this for a simple reason. If what you say here is true, then how can you comment on the "writing" for any anime or manga? If you really believe that "writing" is just the use of the language which shows a good grasp of it, how can you judge the writing of anything in Japanese since you do not understand the language yourself? You've definitely commented on the writing of many shows in the past, and you also call Mari Okada a bad "writer" but why would you if you really believe that it only refers to the technical aspect of using the language?
I'm going to call bullshit on this for a simple reason. If what you say here is true, then how can you comment on the "writing" for any anime or manga? If you really believe that "writing" is just the use of the language which shows a good grasp of it, how can you judge the writing of anything in Japanese since you do not understand the language yourself? You've definitely commented on the writing of many shows in the past, and you also call Mari Okada a bad "writer" but why would you if you really believe that it only refers to the technical aspect of using the language?
I call Mari Okada a bad writer because "escritor", writer in Spanish, includes "novelist/poet/script-writer" in its semantic context.
I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about what specific aspect makes a good anime, because the discussion is a waste of my time. Different people will value different things in an entertainment work compromising of visuals, sound, and story. It is a pointless discussion because it also disrespects the broadness of the production by attempting to champion one factor over another.
What I am interested in getting into, is dispelling the statement that good writing alone does not make something compelling and interesting. That's bullshit because good writing is good writing. If good writing is not compelling and interesting, then it isn't good writing.
What I am interested in getting into, is dispelling the statement that good writing alone does not make something compelling and interesting. That's bullshit because good writing is good writing. If good writing is not compelling and interesting, then it isn't good writing.
I'm familiar with the idea, I just lapsed in this particular discussion due to the Shakespeare comments in previous pages.
Besides, "escritor" (writer) and "escritura" (writing) are different words.
Neon genesis evangelion + End of evangelion.
Chet Rippo
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Rinne no Lagrange 9
This episode sucked. I really don't care about those guys. Such a waste of an episode. At least there were a few scenes with Lan and Mugi doing their thing.
Girl on Orca action!
Bad carpentry moe~
I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about what specific aspect makes a good anime, because the discussion is a waste of my time. Different people will value different things in an entertainment work compromising of visuals, sound, and story. It is a pointless discussion because it also disrespects the broadness of the production by attempting to champion one factor over another.
What I am interested in getting into, is dispelling the statement that good writing alone does not make something compelling and interesting. That's bullshit because good writing is good writing. If good writing is not compelling and interesting, then it isn't good writing.
Anyway, Daria and Home Movies, especially Home Movies, are examples where writing is the star of the show. Not every creative project is of the same mold.
firehawk12
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Wait, it even has a sequel? lol
You hate Yami though. lol
I cuddle after though, so it's all good.
(What are we talking about again?)
Home Movies was mostly ad-lib'd... but I guess that also counts as writing in this specific context. A combination of writing and direction, though.
From what I've seen Daria has pretty solid direction and atmosphere in addition to it's fantastic writing. It's not crazy stylistic or anything; but it does very accurately what it's attempting to do.
Dedication Through Light
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Nomi is far from boring thus far. I hope he serves as a developmental tool for Taku
Daria is pretty awesome.
Are we talking narrative construction compared to dialogue? Different authors excel at different things, Rowling and Lucas excel at mythos/world building while Martin's specialty is dialogue and overall narrative. They are all examples of writing though.
Oh and what you're talking about is prose which is a very narrow part of writing as a whole.
Oh yes, Iczer definitely has a sequel.
Like I said, in Spanish "escritura" limits itself to prose. We use "narrativa" for everything else. I understand that in English its different.
A shitty sequel.
I was watching Sherlock just now and I realized that the show has really good narrative and writing. The compelling writing is the intense dialogue, whether it be witty or just amusing, which fills up the show with life. Just thought i oughta make a point of this.
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