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Summer 2012 Anime |OT2| Of Suspended Anime Due To Olympics

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You should give it a shot, Age 1 was pretty good and even had the G-exes! and some good ground level Gundam fighting in the Titus.
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/332/2/e/gundam_age__gundam_titus_by_tristtrist-d4hlf7u.gif
probably will eventually, started 0080 for right now though.

No Gundam will ever surpass Wing in my opinion.
I agree and its not because it was my first. I watched Wing, G, and bits of the older ones all around the same time.
 
This was my reason for not watching AGE. That and the first gen mobile suits looked like ass.

I think AGE as a series is ok, but I can certainly see where the art style would be an issue for some. To me it's just kind of there. Not my favorite by any stretch, but not bad enough to be a complete turn off.
 
Thats kind of getting to where characters are just way too old. Like Setsuna F Seiei and Saji Crossroads were really the only consistently good characters in that, oh and Ribbons Hallmark. Though I just cant ever getting into old characters.

Dont know what UC is.


I wouldn't even mind 30 year old chars, would be something different for once. :p

UC=Universal Century, original timeline of Gandam
 
Since we're talking about Gundam, I was wondering which of the Universal Century entries are a must watch. I want to get a general understanding before I jump into watching Gundam Unicorn since everyone insists that background knowledge is required before watching Unicorn. I tried watching the original, but it's kinda boring. Having seen SEED already, the original is pretty underwhelming since it's basically the same story. It's also way too long and not very interesting.
 
I wouldn't even mind 30 year old chars, would be something different for once. :p

UC=Universal Century, original timeline of Gandam

30 is way too old, they lost all appeal and I cant really see how deep they could do character development for the characters. Much of the appeal in Gundam is seeing these really unexperienced characters just do really amazing things in Gundam making them competent enough and even better than people who have been piloting gundams for years and years.
 
Texhnolyze 5

This dude is seriously Caim. Appearance, mannerisms, attitude, everything.

Cyborg Freddie Mercury, on the other hand, is not quite as similar to his namesake. Sure he's got
I've been singing with my band, across the wire, across the land
I seen ev'ry blue eyed floozy on the way
But their beauty and their style went kind of smooth after a while
Take me to them dirty ladies every time, Shawn
going for him, but that last scene was colder than ice. I'm really curious where his story is headed.
G Gundam is worst Gundam.
Truer words never spoken.
smh. So much ignorance.
 
Since we're talking about Gundam, I was wondering which of the Universal Century entries are a must watch. I want to get a general understanding before I jump into watching Gundam Unicorn since everyone insists that background knowledge is required before watching Unicorn. I tried watching the original, but it's kinda boring. Having seen SEED already, the original is pretty underwhelming since it's basically the same story. It's also way too long and not very interesting.

Thats because you're supposed to watch the original trilogy of movies not the show.
 
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Gundam Exia. Setsuna F. Seiei. Clearing a path towards the future!
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Anohana 2-6

Really like this show. I'm glad they didn't use Index's voice for Menma. Would've driven me crazy.

Kimi to natsu no owari, shourai no yume
Ookina kibou wasurenai
Juunengo no hachigatsu mata deaeru no wo shinjite
Saikou no omoide wo...

Etc. lol
 
30 is way too old, they lost all appeal and I cant really see how deep they could do character development for the characters. Much of the appeal in Gundam is seeing these really unexperienced characters just do really amazing things in Gundam making them competent enough and even better than people who have been piloting gundams for years and years.

I see the appeal in that, but I would have much respect for a Gundam show that would have the same plot as Million Dollar Baby. A 35 year old man/woman that never piloted Gundam before, way above of his/her age, getting mocked at by his younger collegues, and then goes on to become the best Gundam pilot.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Aim for the Top 2! Diebuster-Final
This was interesting. I wasn't even sure whether this was the same universe/staff writing this compared to the original, in the beginning. In regards to animation quality, they definitely lost the 2D mechanical porn that was so prominent in the original. I even spotted some CG mechs every now and then. It looks like Gainax got with the times apparently. That said, the choreography for the fight scenes and overall motion in the sequel definitely seems better compared to the original. Yoshiyuki Sadamoto's artstyle is prominent as ever and definitely helps the character design and really is an overall improvement compared to the original. Sadamoto's art also helps to bring the universe alive in a way not seen in the original.

I thought the main narrative itself compared to the original was definitely better if not a bit predictable. It's much less straightforward compared to the original which is fine.
The characters were definitely leaps and bounds better compared to the original as well. Nono is a much better protagonist compared to Noriko and while mopes, she is much more proactive. Lal'C also feels more fleshed out compared to Kazumi(in the original). This helps to create a stronger and more believable bond of friendship. Their relationship is really the heart of the show and it definitely comes through. The side-characters also have their own arcs and character development which is something that was lacking in the original.

As for the motifs and themes, I watched Gurren Lagann long ago and way before this. So while this was first, I still associate it with Gurren Lagann. As such, this definitely seems like the predecessor to GL. Pretty much everything seems like this was a practice run for what would happen in GL. The scale, friendship motif, ending, battle sequences, character designs and art in general, twists in the narrative, and determination overcoming all obstacles are all things that seem to progress straight into GL. Hell they could have named GL, Aim For the Top 3!, and it would fit perfectly. That said though GL was a bit less clunky compared to this.

I did have some problems with the dialogue at times as it seems to lose itself in the technical mumbojumbo. It makes it really hard to follow some of the conversations even just watching the original. They also seemed to throw the whole thing with time-dilation straight out the window which somewhat disappointed me.

All in all, it's a decent watch that really leads into the masterpiece that is Gurren Lagann. It definitely feels like a more modern take on the scifi genre compared to the original which has both pros and cons. It's nice to see the development of certain ideas and artstyles that were further expanded upon.
 
Genshiken 2 6
She looks so much cuter with her hair styled like she did in highschool. Funny how she bumps into the rest of the club while they talk dirty things about her. In the end her cover was blown because of something soft and big.
It's interesting that Saki hasn't done much this season considering she was pretty much the main protagonist (or antagonist from a certain point of view) of the first season.
 
Thats because you're supposed to watch the original trilogy of movies not the show.

I didn't even know there was a movie trilogy. Thanks, I'll check it out.


How could any 00 fan dislike the movie, it was like 120 minutes of Setsuna F Seiei and really amazing visuals. I guess, everything I loved about 00 condensed into a one good final story.

The 00 movie was like a really bad crossover of Gundam 00 and Macross. The enemy was just some random liquid metal aliens that invade for no reason (yeah yeah, dying homeworld and all).
 

Jarmel

Banned
Uh,
did you miss the ending?

When Nono was flat out running around in space without any sort of equipment at the end of the first episode was when I had a "WTF" look on my face, not to mention the whole summoning a mech from the middle of nowhere. Yes I saw the ending but the technology gets so out there that it's really hard to believe at times that it was the same. I knew it was the same universe way before the ending but it really stretches it at times. Yes that's because of the time jump, which I had issues with how that's handled in that certain things look like our time period and others that are just flat out fantastical, however it really does feel like a different universe.

It does contain some basic traits it seem of an Anno protagonist. The whole dependency on another individual and the extremes it's taken seemed rather Evangelion at times.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
When Nono was flat out running around in space without any sort of equipment at the end of the first episode was when I had a "WTF" look on my face, not to mention the whole summoning a mech from the middle of nowhere. Yes I saw the ending but the technology gets so out there that it's really hard to believe at times that it was the same. I knew it was the same universe way before the ending but it really stretches it at times. Yes that's because of the time jump, which I had issues with how that's handled in that certain things look like our time period and others that are just flat out fantastical, however it really does feel like a different universe.

It does contain some basic traits it seem of an Anno protagonist. The whole dependency on another individual and the extremes it's taken seemed rather Evangelion at times.

I haven't seen Diebuster, but it does take place 10,000 years later...
 

Narag

Member
How could any 00 fan dislike the movie, it was like 120 minutes of Setsuna F Seiei and really amazing visuals. I guess, everything I loved about 00 condensed into a one good final story.

It went in the same direction the second season did which wasn't one I enjoyed. I'd have preferred if it were closer to the awesome first season that I enjoyed so much tgat the second half has been unable to tarnish the memory!
 

Jarmel

Banned
I haven't seen Diebuster, but it does take place 10,000 years later...

Right and they're really kinda here and there with the technology. The technological advancement doesn't really make sense. As I said, certain stuff is really advanced and other stuff is around modern times. It's all over the place and is kinda handwaved. You have motorscooters/regular homes existing in a universe where someone can summon a mech anywhere via teleportation out of thin air. Not to mention the loss of certain technology, which I find hard to believe considering how crucial it was in the original, which is rediscovered for necessary plot points.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Right and they're really kinda here and there with the technology. The technological advancement doesn't really make sense. As I said, certain stuff is really advanced and other stuff is around modern times. It's all over the place and is kinda handwaved. You have motorscooters/regular homes existing in a universe where someone can summon a mech anywhere via teleportation out of thin air.

That's just how science fiction works though. People don't bother to work out how everything works most of the time. lol
 
I've always liked Gunbuster slightly more than Diebuster, but that's probably nostalgia talking there. Didn't see Diebuster until recently and after I had seen Gurren Lagann.
 

Jarmel

Banned
That's just how science fiction works though. People don't bother to work out how everything works most of the time. lol

It just stuck out to me especially compared to the original which was relatively consistent(except for the black hole bomb). There definitely seems like more thought was put into the underlying physics in the original series compared to Diebuster. This is where Diebuster veers into Gurren Lagann territory in that later, characters just start to flat out break the rules of the universe.
 

Jex

Member
Even if G Gundam was crap (which its not) There is far too much shit in the Gundam universe for this statement to be true.

You took the words right out of my keyboard. There's such a wide range of works in the Gundam franchise that you need to be pretty awful to qualify as the worst.
 

Articalys

Member
According to the C82 booth listing, the name for the new Shaft show is apparently "Magical Suite Prism Nana".

Well, I guess the すいーと could be "sweet" instead. No way to tell from just the kana, is there?
 

Jarmel

Banned
I'm assuming Diebuster is much more fantastic then. lol

Very much so. Some of the stuff they do is straight up impossible.
They rip open a blackhole which then possibly starts a new big-bang.
It's very much a project where you can see past influences and works on the part of Gainax but also where they were heading, TTGL.

It's more FLCL than Gunbuster.

Yea you can definitely see FLCL in this. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some fans that didn't like Diebuster for this precise reason. I definitely enjoyed Diebuster more than Gunbuster but that 'hard scifi' theme that was in the original is pretty much thrown straight out.
 

Jex

Member
That's just how science fiction works though. People don't bother to work out how everything works most of the time. lol

That's the beauty of the Mardock Scramble universe. Cyborg Technology is considered impressive while at the same time scientists have managed to create a hyper-intelligent talking mouse that can transmute it's shape into a variety of things and no one seems to notice that one of these feats is rather more impressive than the other.
 

Jex

Member
Since we're talking about Gundam, I was wondering which of the Universal Century entries are a must watch. I want to get a general understanding before I jump into watching Gundam Unicorn since everyone insists that background knowledge is required before watching Unicorn. I tried watching the original, but it's kinda boring. Having seen SEED already, the original is pretty underwhelming since it's basically the same story. It's also way too long and not very interesting.

The Original Movie Trilogy is required watching, if you really insist on getting into the Universal Century works. Beyond that I suppose you can watch the Zeta Gundam TV series but I found that to be an extremely painful experience. Char's Counterattack is the last thing you need to watch for 'plot' reasons.

Stepping away from those 'core' UC works I really do recommend watching the 08th MS Team OVA as well as the truly excellent Gundam 0080: War In the Pocket. Neither of these works are key UC stories but they are better than the mainline stuff.
 

Jex

Member
I was planning on watching all of the original series but is this a viable alternative?

It's not so much the viable alternative as the only option. This is one of those very rare cases where literally everyone says that you shouldn't watch the original series.
 

Articalys

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1st 164 Maria @ Hayate The Combat Butler
2nd 154 Minori Kushieda @ Toradora!
3rd 147 Rise Matsumoto @ Yuru Yuri
4th 146 Kaori Senou @ Saki
5th 143 Angelina Nanatsu Sewell @ Mashiroiro Symphony ~The Colour Of Lovers~
6th 142 Mayu Morita @ Morita-san Wa Mukuchi
7th 135 Houki Shinonono @ Infinite Stratos
8th 132 Chihaya Ayase @ Chihayafuru
9th 124 Saku Touyama @ Detective Opera Milky Holmes
10th 116 Nazuna @ Hidamari Sketch
11th 110 Hatsumi Usuzumi @ Saki
12th 109 Irisviel Von Einzbern @ Fate/Zero
13th 108 Habara @ Daily Lives Of High School Boys
14th 99 Sae Nakata @ Amagami SS
14th 99 Seraphim @ Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka?
16th 91 Kirie Kanoe @ Dusk Maiden Of Amnesia
Nothing else really worth mentioning for today.
 
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