I think the original models had backwards compatibility, but they got rid of that in the newer ones for some reason.
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I think the original models had backwards compatibility, but they got rid of that in the newer ones for some reason.
I think they were supposed to be too expensive to manufacture
There's no way that's going to happen when they already have ps now. Why let you play the games you already bought when they can charge you to play them again.
The ps3 was only backwards compatible with the first version of it. I don't think the ps4 is gonna happen.
jack_package_200
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Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE is $45 away from its Vita stretch goal
RecursiveFault
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Update on that whole "possible cheater friend".
She went with him to the movies as friends, and then they apparently ended up kissing and she decided she had to break up with her current boyfriend immediately, and she had been thinking about it for about a year.
So I think she's kinda dumb, selfish, and waiting for someone new to push you out of your old relationship is mildly gross, but at least she didn't really cheat.
My other mutual friends are a lot more upset than I am.
She went with him to the movies as friends, and then they apparently ended up kissing and she decided she had to break up with her current boyfriend immediately, and she had been thinking about it for about a year.
So I think she's kinda dumb, selfish, and waiting for someone new to push you out of your old relationship is mildly gross, but at least she didn't really cheat.
My other mutual friends are a lot more upset than I am.
zedreamcast
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I swear to god I will be so pissed if PS4 p5 has major differences to the ps3 version, or they just get rid of the ps3 version.
That's ridiculous, I would totally pay for some kind of peripheral or device extension or something that allowed you to run PS2 and/or PS3 stuff on your PS4 without having to fucking re-buy everything and have multiple consoles set up.
That's still cheating.
Sony can't make any money on games you already own or can get used tho...
That's like Scott pilgrim cheating.
RecursiveFault
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You think? I'm fucking torn. She didn't tell me about the kiss part either, I got that from the mutual friend.
... Wow. Yeah.
TechnicaUS
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It should be fine. I don't see atlus lopping off important content like that.
Yeah. If she really did kiss him that's cheating.
CrackPebbles
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Just bought a Hori RAP.V for $112 so I guess i'll play some Xrd when that gets delivered. Feels good to have a current gen stick, im set for the next couple of years.
While I usually have very little sympathy for people who screw around like that, in that context it sounds like the physical aspect of their relationship was probably already well and truly over at that point if she had been thinking about it for a year, so that little bit of overlap isn't quite the same as just screwing around behind someone's back.
In the strictest sense, it's cheating, but it's also a bit of grey area, I don't think you can truly hold it against someone at that point, it's just not worth it.
That's more of a case of not handling something as well as she should have.
zedreamcast
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I would murder someone if that happened.
TechnicaUS
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I would too. I trust atlus though, and if they were smart, they developed p5 on the ps3 and then ported and upresed to the ps4. I'll bet that's waht they did.
Phantasmal Repose
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Congratulations. What's the ETA?
RecursiveFault
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She does seem kinda broken after the whole thing. If I can get that detail from her, herself later on I'll try to, but she seems to be a bit of a glass case.
It was a 6 year relationship. They saw each other like every week or every other week, and just texted all day every day,
RecursiveFault
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Uh? What? It was originally a PS3 game only, an upres'd, AA'd, PS4 port is awesome.
You said the physical side was dead. I just gave info on it.
CrackPebbles
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Around a week. And im thinking of trying out Zato in Xrd, what's he like?
TechnicaUS
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Wouldn't it be easier to go up than down?
Phantasmal Repose
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One of the better characters in the roster. He's a puppet character, though.
He fights with a stand
My point is if she's been thinking about ending it for a year, then to her the relationship is basically over, at that point the only thing making it a relationship is the other person thinking that they're still together, I have an extremely hard time believing the guy she was with thought everything was okay during that time, you cannot hide that sort of dissatisfaction for that long.
And if he had no clue, then well there you go, that tells you everything, should she have kissed that other guy? No, but it sounds like she didn't let it go further than that and that it also made her realize something she had known for awhile, that she had to end it.
Enlarging a smaller image will always look shittier than shrinking down a bigger image, that's all there is to it.
zedreamcast
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He is literally Dio, no seriously he shares a Japanese VA with Dio.
I definitely understand your reaction/perception of the situation but people always look at that kind of thing very black and white, everyone wants to hold someone to the standard of "If you dont want to be with someone just break up with them!" but feelings arent that cut and dry, and when you've invested YEARS into a relationship, you want it to work out even if deep down you know it wont.
I'm not justifying her kissing someone else before breaking up with her boyfriend, but more making the point that the realization that you aren't truly right for someone is usually a gradual realization and even when you know that is the case, its not like your feelings for that person just disappear. So it leads to a lot of doubt like "Is this just a rough patch and I'm overreacting?" versus "Deep down I know this isn't really the right relationship for either of us."
Unfortunately that means that sometimes it takes something a bit more drastic to make a person really face the truth.
skLaFarebear
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Obviously development started on the ps3, though idk if I'd consider that smart. Atlus has a history of lagging behind on their software being on recent hardware. I think it'd be better for Atlus and especially Sony if they made it exclusive to PS4 because that game has enough fans where a lot of them would buy PS4's, especially ones bundled with P5. And it has the benefit of being a better game tech wise since it wouldn't be restricted by the PS3's hardware.
It'd be better now if Atlus moved straight to the PS4 and developed new games, especially SMT, for that because people are craving games, especially RPGs, on their PS4.
TechnicaUS
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Jojo part 6 spoilers
Godammit, it's limp bizkit.
zedreamcast
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But what about the people who havent moved to PS4 yet because of the price? I think its better that they made it for both. One hand you have the people who only have a ps4 and on the other you have people who dont have a ps4 yet and only a ps3. The persona games have always had a lot of polish even for being late console generation games. I mean p4 and p3 both came out when the ps3 was already out and look amazing.
RecursiveFault
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I get that the intention wasn't bad, and she's going through her own insane roller coaster of emotions, but I at least feel I need to make clear how cheating is actually terrible. She's the kind of person I can see harboring no regrets over doing something horrible.
Anyway, I'll wait until she's willing to give me more details.
CrackPebbles
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Sexy
I don't own Xrd
Radical.
Nah they aren't.
CthulhuSushi
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No, that's still cheating.
skLaFarebear
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Japan is full of lots of huge Persona fans. A lot of people in Japan haven't bought PS4's yet. Make P5 exclusive to PS4 and with the right marketing and suddenly PS4 sales, especially in Japan, will go up. Of course, something like that would be more benefitial to Sony, but in the long run, it will be better for Atlus so that not only will their assets, especially for the demons, already be on the current consoles, but all their models, art, etc. will already be developed for the better looking console and future SMT/Persona games won't require remodelling of those assets that had to be downgraded because of the PS3. Though I could just be talking out of my ass and having no idea what I'm talking about.
Now for the realistic and way more likely scenario, Persona 5 is coming out on both consoles, but the more than inevitable revision will be exclusive to PS4, forcing people to move to next gen while still giving Atlus a lot of sales off P5.
A puppet character that is really good if your execution is up to snuff.
zedreamcast
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Hes apparently top tier.
jack_package_200
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Strength of the Sword is coming to Vita
What's done is done, what matters now is if she learns from it and becomes a better person.
Every single person makes mistakes and hurts people, so in my mind the thing that matters more than those actual mistakes is how they grow or change because of those actions versus not learning or growing and excusing their reckless/hurtful behavior.
Banana Aeon
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It's easier to turn graphical effects off, than it is to make something look good upscaled.
You think it's better because you have a PS3 and not a PS4, your view is irrelevant at that point.
There is really no good reason to keep releasing games on the PS3 and PS4 together, not only does the split release and development slow down the natural progression born from understanding the PS4 hardware, but the games themselves aren't pushing any limits at that point at all, just so they can be adaptable to older hardware.
As someone who only bought a PS3 in 2010, it's unfortunate the stuff I have can't just be moved to a PS4 when I get one, but at the same time it feels goddamn pointless to buy games that come out on both because at some point soon the PS3 will no longer be supported and will slowly go away while they keep improving the PS4 and releasing stuff on it.
They should have either dropped PS3 development entirely when 4 came out, or just have it so PS3 games being made were just that, PS3 games, and not have this stupid pattern of making the same game for both Playstation consoles where one looks slightly nicer.
But he ain't winning nothing in Japan.
he's top tier, but no one has full mastery of him yet and a lot old zato players aren't comfortable with xrd.
RecursiveFault
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For sure, and knowing her, I'm afraid she thinks what she did was 100% a-ok no problemo. I just wanna make sure she doesn't think it's actually fine. It's complex and she didn't mean bad, but she still did the wrong thing.
I honestly doubt she would give it a second thought unless I talk to her about it, again though, I'll wait till she's ready to discuss it.
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