DoktorEvil
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Pat mentioned his PS4 having problems so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have to.
The game is cursed man.
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Super Best Friends Thread 8: "You know, we really are the Super Best Friends Play"
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Pat mentioned his PS4 having problems so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have to.
The game is cursed man.
If you want critical feedback based on all the playthroughs you've done, here is my list of playthroughs/features that had bigger issues:
Nuzlocke (Boring, no one really wanted to continue, strong ending though.)
Prison Break (The game was so bad and simple that you can't shit on it for long. It felt like a podcast with just you and Matt. The game had no surprises or peaks, nothing new to commentate on except that its still shitty.)
Walking Dead Season 2 (The season itself is a lot weaker, there was nothing at stake story wise or emotion wise, which made the playthrough feel pretty vapid. Not much excitement for newer episodes.)
The Amazing Superfriends (Really, really mixed quality wise. Some great episodes like Aquaman and Judge Dredd, a lot of episodes meld together which lead to a really middling feeling. Rustlemania trumps it tenfold.)
Shitstorm 3 (Less to do with the commentary, more to do with the formatting. Fan voted and everything, but the original format worked a lot better when it came to humor and anticipation for newer episodes. Bug Island was also pitch black, Rule of Rose is extremely narrative based and plodding. Felt like there was a lack of momentum until the original format came back the last week. Playing confirmed great horror games or unknown indie ones seems better options for next year. Don't give bigger no name games a chance unless a lot of research is done.)
Yakuza 4 (Dragged on for too long, brawler gameplay feels a lot better to play than it is to watch. Storyline wasn't outlandish enough to stay fresh every day.)
Yep, but it seemed like just a heat sink problem and/or gpu. Maybe he will, maybe he won't who knows.
Snapshot King
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I can dig those complaints. The shitstorm though, that's tough to fix. There just aren't enough horror games to do 31 every year.
Didn't his PS4 GPU melt or something?
It's getting to the point where there are. But they're all shitty indie games.
Chaos2Frozen
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The first thing I heard about this game was how he's displease about the direction of survival horror games, which probably just means Resident Evil.
I never heard about that until after the game came out.
Romars202129
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Zoning? What a shameful way to play kanji.
He actually has much better long range options than this guy let's on. You can do a whole thing of lighting, charge tackle combo/lightning, it's actually pretty cool.
I really hope they give his air combos and his lightning persona invincibility back in the next update, at least one or the other.
He already said on the podcast that they're finishing it on Matt's PS4 by downloading his saves off Sony's cloud servers.
I think going with the best of the best or more prolific horror titles would work. Silent Hill 2 and Silent Hill 4, one is a classic, the other is weird as fuck in all of the right ways. Killer 7 is another LP I'd love to see during Shitstorm month. Making a list and then saying "do that!" is of course easier said then done, not to mention my own preferences are just that.
RecursiveFault
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Most of my constructive criticism are for LPs that, actually, Pat isn't involved in, but
Also I can echo complaints of FNF needing more salt. The casual nature of it only works when the game is super hype and awesome. Otherwise it's like a low energy podcast.
Prison Break is one my favorite things you guys have done though.
These three I definitely agree with. Also obviously some sections of Dark 2 became really hard to watch.
Also I can echo complaints of FNF needing more salt. The casual nature of it only works when the game is super hype and awesome. Otherwise it's like a low energy podcast.
Prison Break is one my favorite things you guys have done though.
Romars202129
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Don't listen to him about Rule of Rose! That shit was awesome, and I eagerly await a continuation.
Yeah, going back to the best-ofs of the horror genre would be good, dedicate 1 week to each because a different game per day is unsustainable. Obscure horror games could also work.
Here's a few games I would like to watch: Obscure 1/2 (multiplayer horror game, up on Steam but who knows how good the port is), Haunting Grounds (obscure-ish game), Clock Tower series, Clive Barker's Jericho. Horror adventure games could also work, provided someone has knowledge on the topic (I enjoyed the IHNMAIMS LP).
To go back to youtube comments. I forgot to mention that even though the comments are incredibly negative they are still criticism extreme or not they are pointing out something that could be adressed or is a problem, which can be small.
Especially when the crossbow was used rather than taking the chance to just use melee weapons to fight.
More salt or more practice? So it won't be everyone not knowing what they are doing and just using normals and specials randomly. At least some basic combos? It might be asking a lot since not everyone will have time to practice or want to play seriously.
Especially when the crossbow was used rather than taking the chance to just use melee weapons to fight.
More salt or more practice? So it won't be everyone not knowing what they are doing and just using normals and specials randomly. At least some basic combos? It might be asking a lot since not everyone will have time to practice or want to play seriously.
Snapshot King
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If you want that change made to FnF then it needs to be changed to once every 3 months and Matt and Liam get kicked out.
RecursiveFault
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No, I don't expect that at all, that would take way too much time, It's just that a lot of the entertainment from a Brawl depends on how each player is trying to constantly shit on everybody else.
Just implementing a tournament style system on it wouldn't help, but as it is now, I'm only excited when it's a game like Alpha 3 or Third Strike.
Some things like Battle Fantasia have nobody playing being that invested while also lacking my own personal interest. It's a game-to-game complaint though.
I realize actually making them Brawls is unfeasible, yeah.
Snapshot King
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Like, no offense to Liam or Matt, but with Liams crippled ass hands and general enjoyment of fighting games and Matts unwillingness to practice, if you want super competent play you need to give Woolie and I the entire video and do one a month max.
skLaFarebear
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Nah, I like the casual laid back style of FNF. There are plenty of competitive fighting game youtube channels out there. Its rare to see one where they're just laid back playing whatever for an hour a week. Seeing more competitive fighting game videos around the channel would be cool though. Some ocassional Woolie vs Pat Ultimax or USF4 matches where they do post commentary on what happened would be really cool. Kinda like the Matt/Woolie KI video
That wouldn't be good. So it'd be better to keep it as is. It's still enjoyable to watch the FnFs and see new fighting games. What would be the reason behind those decisions, don't answer if you don't want to. I'm assuming due to time to play the games, and other factors?
Edit: i didn't notice your other post until now. Hmm.. ok. Understandable.
Snapshot King
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Woolie and I are way better than they are at fighters and it takes a while to gain even general competency, and it decreases over time. If you play a lot of fighters you should know that. There's only maybe 15 total fighters that we've gotten "good" at, and FnF is weekly. We started it because we just love fighters in general.
GlassEmpires
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I meant for his own amusement outside of the LP.
JooseBawcks
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Yo what's Woolie's standard for a "good" fighting game anyways? I wanted to see you guys play more weird shit (and a specific one in mind) but maybe he'd be like "This is too garbage"
RecursiveFault
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I don't even mean that I dislike how they are now, it just seems that occasionally videos have a fighter that nobody really cares about being played. With commentary lacking discussion of what's being played. That's just something that comes with being a weekly series though, I suppose.
Occasional competitive things would be sick. That Matt/Woolie KI video was neat.
Realistically the series would have to revert back to Best Friends Brawl with no fighting games, with Friday Night Fisticuffs turning into what you just posted. I don't really want that to happen though.
Plus what I just posted is something that will happen eventually. Around this time next year you guys will have played any fighting game worth playing, the series will either have to be changed up or end in the future. I mean, a year from now is 52 weeks, 52 more fighting games.
Romars202129
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Maybe one FNF a month should be just that then, and the other 3 be the regular casual ones?
Snapshot King
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The series is already changing up, though. That being said, ALL fighting games are worth playing. I can see why you would disagree, but we believe that even the rancid garbage or super boring is deserving of at least a half an hour look. Its why we love this series. For weekly viewers though, if you're not obsessed with fighters, I can get how you can be like, wtf, why isn't this third strike/ultimax/guilty gear/alpha/etc.
GlassEmpires
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Easiest way to get the Zaibatsu salty would be to have something tangible worth fighting over. Like the Gurren Blu-Rays for example. Have a monthly brawl to determine who keeps it in their apartment. Liam can mediate since he already has the set
I over inflated my expecations of being actually feasable. Yeah it wouldn't be phsycially possible to do what i had in mind.
A tournament style would not be good at all since not everyone is at the same skill level and have not invested the same amount of time.
I actually quite like seeing quirky new fighters. Sure not all of them are super interesting but it does bring them to the spotlight.
Yes, i realized at how impossible my idea was. That's because you play a new fighting game a week and also need time to practice, which would take even more effort to get to a certain skill level and keep up that skill into the day of the game to be played.
oh.. ok.. that makes sense now.
JooseBawcks
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In that case I'm going to be a huge scumbag and say PLEASE PLAY GROOVE ON FIGHT if you can even find a way to do that. I have the dumbest reason for wanting to see this on the channel
I think they gave the other set to someone that's not the 4 of them? I might be misremembering though
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I love FnF the way it is, and honestly I'd like to see some more "obscure" fighters played on it. Like, not quite Scrublords-tier stuff, but more stuff outside the usual SF/KoF/Tekken/etc. spectrum. The Waku Waku 7/Galaxy Fight episode is great. I'd love to see more like that.
Also, Guilty Gear Isuka. It's trash, but it could be fun to watch since you've got four players.
The only reason anyone ever plays Groove On Fight is the
Also, Guilty Gear Isuka. It's trash, but it could be fun to watch since you've got four players.
The only reason anyone ever plays Groove On Fight is the
underboob
Chaos2Frozen
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Personally I prefer the SBF brawl videos though, where even something as simple as an imaginary pride on the line makes you guys play even harder and crazier and talk even more amazing shit to each other =p
"You guys are the DEEPEST motherfuckers!"
"Isn't this easier?! Isn't this your natural state?!
"You guys are the DEEPEST motherfuckers!"
"Isn't this easier?! Isn't this your natural state?!
This is actually neat to know.
Because that means you'll eventually have to play Dong Dong Never Die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZQhZbJevM. I found a Rom for it last year. It still exists.
Favorite FnF was Bloody Roar, that game looks raw as fuck.
GlassEmpires
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Then they can wager LP rights. Pat vs Woolie vs Liam for the right to be the player in a Bloodborne LP would be glorious in its sodium content
While I'm sure Matt and Katawa Liam will get super hype for SFV when it comes out and there'll be a great FnF, but if they're unwilling or unable to practice to a competent level with upcoming fighting games, it would be cool to have once a month or every 2nd week a Pat and Woolie vs BestGAF with Guilty Gear Xrd, Mortal Kombat X, Ultimax, Tekken 7, etc. Especially with the Silent Protagonist intro for FnF being a BestGAF player.
RecursiveFault
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Alright, thanks for replying. I guess it's just a different strokes thing. The only one that I really disliked was stuff like TMNT smash up, but that was for turtles week. There's a good number of obscure ones that were kickass, like Galaxy Fight.
Snapshot King
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Don't worry about Groove on Fight. We have a working and recordable saturn, so it's defacto on the list. Woolie is a lot of things, but I am routinely amazed at how he finds new fighters none of us have ever heard of EVERY WEEK. The mans got an addiction. Also we're all very familiar with Dong Dong. It's on the list, eventually.
JooseBawcks
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I love the Anarchy Reigns Brawl so fucking much
What the actual fuck oh god that screen tearing
That would be some intense shit
One person or a lobby perhaps? It could also include matt and liam for some fights and dialogue about the game or stories?
It's finne..
Also the girl is from an anime called kyoukai no kanata.. i think i got the name right.
Snapshot King
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Also! Do you guys want to see the absolute primary inspiration for Fighterpedia? And FnF, and some of Matts original channel?
Ultimate_Trainer
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Sure. it would be interesting.
Sure. Go for it.
Never doubted that, but it hypes me up knowing that the bottom of the barrel fighters are going to be played. Broken and garbled fighting games even everything out skill gap wise.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Anyway, we'll know FnF has run out of steam when they decide to do Capcom Fighting All-Stars. THAT'S when FnF is dead. :lol
Also, to throw out a couple more things I'd like to see, ArcSys Sengoku Basara and Rumble Fish would be great.
Also, to throw out a couple more things I'd like to see, ArcSys Sengoku Basara and Rumble Fish would be great.
JooseBawcks
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I dunno guys, are you sure?
Yes definitely
Heck yeah!
Snapshot King
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Alright, here we go. We saw this back when it originally came out, because of Woolies fiendish need for more fighting game shit. You may notice this video is NOT popular. It's underground. Team You Are the Best From Now! *clap* is the SHIT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFT01e3--E
Stomach through the old production and long intro, I promise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFT01e3--E
Stomach through the old production and long intro, I promise.
DAREALGUMMY
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Can't sleep and can't talk about anything else so here goes.
I really hate that as well. I run my crappy little channel as best as I can. First it would be just go with it since it was mainly game audio only then when I finally got commentary, I had to deal with that as well. I would make slates by clapping with captured video of my desktop and audacity but since I've been told my audio sounds crap, I switched to another method which makes syncing a little harder. It just sucks when it goes fine then it doesn't sync after a few minutes. Such a pain so I feel you on that.
Fuck comments. I understand frustrations and things but people bitching about missing things or not doing things a certain way can fuck off. I loved the TLOU play through and I just don't get the bullshit about how it was fucked up or whatever people want to complain about. My online true gripe is Woolie exhaustion. He does great work behind the scenes and podcast but his play style is so hard to watch in LP'S. If you're thinking about having Matt & Liam sit out for FNF'S, I think Woolie can sit out LP's for awhile.
I don't think it's decreasing. Shit happens and you obviously care about the quality otherwise you wouldn't think about it.
All I can say is play some Ninja Masters. That's my shit and I use a little bit of the OST as my channel intro.
GlassEmpires
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Sounds cool, so that's a Yes from me
skLaFarebear
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