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Super Mario 3D Land |OT| Jump Into a New Dimension!
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Oh, I think I know where the confusion is. You said "especially", which means "particularly" or "to a great extent"; I think you may have meant "specially", meaning exclusive.
Togglesworlh
Banned
"Used to single out one person, thing, or situation over all others"
I was just as confused as Minasu when you started talking about Galaxy. X:
Got all the coins, currently going through as Luigi and nabbing any golden flagpoles I missed. Even though the game has already showed me everything it can, I am noticing one aspect that will keep my coming back more and more:
Getting best clear times with Streetpass opponents.
Holy shit this game is not complete unless there aren't yellow numbers next to my Mii on EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.
Getting best clear times with Streetpass opponents.
Holy shit this game is not complete unless there aren't yellow numbers next to my Mii on EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.
Yeah, I hit someone with a probably a dozen or so better times a couple days ago, and now I'm rerunning levels again. Good stuff.
Doesn't seem like there's too many haters anymore. This was one of those games that seemed to get a lot of negative traction early on from some rather vocal members, but as more people played through the entire game, they saw how good it actually was. My favorite game from last year, up there with Portal 2.
I found it to be really quite easy if you come in as a silver-leaf tanooki with another silver-leaf in reserve. The fluttering helps you with the tricky jumps and turning into a statue makes the moving lift section a breeze. I think I wasted more lives in other Special-8 levels, truth be told.
A non-power-up run is a real challenge, though.
I still found it more fluid to play with no Leaf. Yeah, I died a few times, but there's no rhythm with the Leaf in play.
Chuckpebble
Member
Yeah, this. I had a harder time landing those single blocks with the leaf, whereas I could just memorize the hang time I needed with out it and stick the landing pretty consistently.
Togglesworlh
Banned
The levels was clearly designed to the rhythm of leaf-less Mario, but even so, leaf Mario was easier to adjust to than leaf-less Luigi. Man.
There are some levels where if you want to speed run them, you have to do it with leaf-less mario in places where precise plataforming is needed, like landing between a spike and a pit. Speed Running this game made me apreciate it even more
Togglesworlh
Banned
The plural "levels" in my post was a typo. I was really only referring to the last super-ultra level. But yeah it does apply to others, too.
Funny story.
I lost 50-100 Marios running it over and over and over, right? Then I finally did it (yay!), and I switched to Luigi.
Got it first try.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Cheaters never prosper.
UltimateIke
Member
I finally got all five shiny stars
today after getting the game at launch. I initially only made it to around World 4, so I started a new file about a week ago and finished the final stage just a few moments ago. Definitely a terrific Mario game.
I thought it was a smidgen on easy side though. The difficulty never made it to a point where I would die more than once or twice (if at all) my first time through any level. The special levels were a little underwhelming too. Just remixes of the standard levels with something like
, or a low time limit with extensions scattered about. I can't think of any section that gave me trouble, especially when I had the opportunity to float over many obstacles with the Tanooki suit.
I guess if anything, easier levels make it more fun to do speed runs. My
was crazy fast. The shortcuts I found were tons of fun and really made me appreciate the level design.
The entire game is well put together and very polished. Though I guess I shouldn't expect any less after the Galaxy games!
and beat the secret final level
I thought it was a smidgen on easy side though. The difficulty never made it to a point where I would die more than once or twice (if at all) my first time through any level. The special levels were a little underwhelming too. Just remixes of the standard levels with something like
Shadow Mario chasing you
I guess if anything, easier levels make it more fun to do speed runs. My
Luigi playthrough
The entire game is well put together and very polished. Though I guess I shouldn't expect any less after the Galaxy games!
No, but after all that, don't stop now!
What.
Togglesworlh
Banned
Some people, ya know?
entremet
Member
I found it easier without the Tanooki leaf, tbh. Especially the beginning section. The leaf only helps in regards to the extra hits you gain-->Leaf Mario>Super Mario>Mario. You can get Fireflowers instead.
Agreed.
and holy fuck at this difficulty spike. No checkpoints is murder! Where was this during the actual game?
dodging falling bob ombs on that green arrow platform thing
Tanooki makes the moving platform section a non-factor, by just going into the statue the entire time, which can be helpful for some people. Last level was great. I hope some people challenge themselves and replay without power-ups at some point, which would change the complexion of the entire game.
entremet
Member
5 stars it is. If you want be hardcore, go for the shiny stars if you missed it in this playthrough.
lazybones18
Banned
Don't die in the same level five times in a row
lazybones18
Banned
You have nothing to worry about. I should have been more specific:
Don't have a super/help item block appear. It will only appear if you die five or more times in a row in the same level. Thankfully, the item doesn't appear in the final level so you can die as many times as you want
nephilimdj
Member
Finally 4 stared it, now to replay all the stages
cant believe I have hit 17hours, longest played a mario platform game since old snes days
cant believe I have hit 17hours, longest played a mario platform game since old snes days
Working on the Special Worlds right now. To unlock every level I have to: Grab all three coins in the levels, beat every level with Luigi, and get yellow flags on every level...is that it?
Game is awesome. For some reason I rushed like crazy to finish the main game, but now I am just playing a few levels a day. Much more fun just to take my time.
Game is awesome. For some reason I rushed like crazy to finish the main game, but now I am just playing a few levels a day. Much more fun just to take my time.
Yep, all 3 coins + the M, L, and Flag icons for all stages. Have fun!
Oh, I have to beat every level with both M and L. Well, this will take a good bit of time. Thanks!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Oh My God I just got this game. This is the game I thought Super Mario 64 would be back in 1996.
Super motherfucking nostalgia right now. A bit on the easy side though.
Super motherfucking nostalgia right now. A bit on the easy side though.
FieryBalrog
Member
I love this game. For people saying it's too easy, the difficulty is perfect for a noob like me. Looks like Valve took a master class from Nintendo when making Portal 1 & 2, because the similarities in design philosophy are very very obvious.
Also there are 2 changes from NSMB DS which are a loooooong time coming which make the game way better for me- saving after every level for free (THANK YOU GOD), and "default" Mario is Super Mario (YES!). Those archaic-as-hell mechanics made me want to tear my hair out when beating NSMB DS. Now just waiting for Nintendo to take out the "X lives" holdover from 1984.
On top of that the 3D effect is so beautifully used. I still mostly hate the 3D on other games, but this game made me a believer. I actually leave it on all the time because it enhances the gameplay a LOT, making it way cooler and easier to navigate the 3d environments.
Most fun game I've played in a while. Only complaint is stupid gating content by stars.
Also there are 2 changes from NSMB DS which are a loooooong time coming which make the game way better for me- saving after every level for free (THANK YOU GOD), and "default" Mario is Super Mario (YES!). Those archaic-as-hell mechanics made me want to tear my hair out when beating NSMB DS. Now just waiting for Nintendo to take out the "X lives" holdover from 1984.
On top of that the 3D effect is so beautifully used. I still mostly hate the 3D on other games, but this game made me a believer. I actually leave it on all the time because it enhances the gameplay a LOT, making it way cooler and easier to navigate the 3d environments.
Most fun game I've played in a while. Only complaint is stupid gating content by stars.
ThatObviousUser
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Nope. Most complaints are that it's too easy for the first "half" of the game.
That's the complaint I keep hearing too. And even that's really bogus in my view—the whole game is one nice long smooth curve... which IMO is a pretty awesome achievement.
Plus, I think if it were really so easy, I'd be seeing far more sparkly stars in StreetPass. Not everyone who gets this game is already a Mario minor deity.
ThatObviousUser
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Oh hey, didn't even realize this was moved to Community.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Galaxy 2 > 3D Land > Galaxy, and only because 3D Land is so short. I appreciate the fact that there's no stupid arse "go collect these things so that you can get these other things" missions. It's all pure Mario platforming, going from point A to point B.
I only need to unlock the final level now.
I only need to unlock the final level now.
And of those sparklies, I wonder how many are done legit without restarting/reloading?
Yeah, let's not even go there. :lol
Agent Unknown
Member
With NSMB 2 being released in August, is there anything it could learn from 3DLand in terms of level design, power ups, ect? Sure, one is a 3D platformer, the other traditional, but they're both successors to SMB 3 and 3DLand played a lot like a 2D game in a 3D world. If you read Hayashida's recent interview with Gamasutra, one of the keys for taking the series back to its roots was Miyamoto's love for classic four panel comic strips (this interview is a great read overall, btw):
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/168460/the_structure_of_fun_learning_.php
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/168460/the_structure_of_fun_learning_.php
Did we play the same game?
olimpia84
Member
Yes, it could learn to use the save feature automatically after you beat each level. In terms of level design I don't think there's much to emulate since they are play differently.