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[GiantBreadbug]

Yes, but he likely meant brand new Smash games, not ports of older games.

And despite what you think, we don't know if this Smash NX will be a straight port, or if it will be a brand new game (which will be the case if it has new content actively developed for it).



I think this sounds to me like an argument of want rather than evidence. Of course, none of us know yet. But as many people have pointed out, it smells like this will not be a simple port. So we ought not confuse what we do or don't want with what is or isn't likely.

Not to mention the fact that Nintendo (Sakurai) has never ported a Smash game before. And I don't think your argument for why they would now rings very convincing.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Yes, but he likely meant brand new Smash games, not ports of older games.

I believe that you may be wrong on that. They had two choices for Wii, which are Super Smash Bros Melee with online mode being added or Super Smash Bros Brawl. Sakurai chose to works on brand new Smash which clearly demonstrated that he still have a strong attachment to the franchise and he is very hand on anything that are Smash Bros. I could say that he might not like the idea of having straight port with one new mode. That's why I believe that he's one of those rare proud developers that clearly love their franchises and fans despite to the fact that some fans could be jerks.

My point is it could be one of those choice to fill out the smash bros slot for wii's lifespan. So Supet Smash Bros Melee For Wii had a chance to become sole Smash Bros for Wii but if it wasn't for Iwata and Aonuma convincing Sakurai to do otherwise.

 

["D"]

I'm trying to do some voice replacements for a few characters since Smash 4 can be modded now. Can anyone link me to a VIDEO tutorial on how to go about performing this? I know there are some typed tutorials but some of these are vague in a few areas, or I'm just missing something. I already have Python, my game disc has already been dumped and everything else

 

[Red Arremer]

Not to mention the fact that Nintendo (Sakurai) has never ported a Smash game before.

That's wrong. Smash 64 was ported to Wii Virtual Console.

 

[TheDinoman]

!!!

I entered Tourney Mode and it warned me that tonight at "20:30" the servers are going down for maintenance.

Patch incoming?

 

[PK Gaming]

!!!

I entered Tourney Mode and it warned me that tonight at "20:30" the servers are going down for maintenance.

Patch incoming?

No, unfortunately

Just your dime a dozen maintenance update.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

That's wrong. Smash 64 was ported to Wii Virtual Console.

That's not a port, that's an emulation.

 

[TheDinoman]

No, unfortunately

Just your dime a dozen maintenance update.

Yeah, but those have occurred in the past and they've never effected the Smash servers, unlike this upcoming one.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

That's wrong. Smash 64 was ported to Wii Virtual Console.

Okay I guess. I wasn't considering VC as a port in the same way we're talking about this being a port though.

 

[Red Arremer]

That's not a port, that's an emulation.

It's an official release of a game on a different platform. For all intents and purposes, it is a port. The inner workings of it nonwithstanding.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

It's an official release of a game on a different platform. For all intents and purposes, it is a port. The inner workings of it nonwithstanding.

Okay here:

Nintendo has never done a straight port of the most recent smash game to the next console.

 

[NinjaCoachZ]

It's an official release of a game on a different platform. For all intents and purposes, it is a port. The inner workings of it nonwithstanding.

That's not the definition of the word "port". Throwing a game's ROM up onto a digital store 10 years later so it can be played by emulating the original system, versus actually recoding the game so it can actually play on a new system, to be re-printed in a box on store shelves two years after are very different levels of investment, visibility, expected profit and effects on a system, etc. The inner workings are the most important part. Nintendo have never done the latter for an SSB game. The two situations are entirely different.

If you wanted to say re-release, sure, but the semantics implied by port versus VC emulation are significant and worth taking into account.

 

[Javier]

It's an official release of a game on a different platform. For all intents and purposes, it is a port. The inner workings of it nonwithstanding.

Come on. Let's not even pretend this is the same situation.

 

[Golnei]

[QUOTE="D";203847504]I'm trying to do some voice replacements for a few characters since Smash 4 can be modded now. Can anyone link me to a VIDEO tutorial on how to go about performing this? I know there are some typed tutorials but some of these are vague in a few areas, or I'm just missing something. I already have Python, my game disc has already been dumped and everything else[/QUOTE]

I haven't used any video tutorials, but if you're still having trouble with that, I might be able to help - what part of the text tutorials are you finding vague, and where are you having problems?

 

[Poltergust]

Great news for all you Palutena fans out there: PrinceRamen won a Florida regional with solo Palutena, beating out top contenders like Riot (who has been dominating Florida as of late) and 8-Bitman.

Check out this stream and watch him tear through top 8 on the loser's side.

https://www.twitch.tv/gamersontheedge/v/66401491

I'm so proud of him. =)

 

[MomoQca]

Here's a neat article on Source Gaming about Elma as a potential character. I'd like to see Sakurai's take on her moveset.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Yeah, I don't get that mindset. I mean, I can see there being no new characters under some scenarios. But there's so much about this that we don't know yet. Like just off the top of my head, here's three scenarios.

Yeah, you really got good points there.

DLC makes the game feel newer than it actually is, but Smash 4 will be two-and-a-half years old when NX launches in March. An enhanced version with additional content seems appropriate to me.

I wouldn't put it behind them if they decide to adjust something regard with gameplay. I meant they actually made the shield change for a patch, so there is a chance that it could happens during Smash NX development.

Oh no, this thread is back already? The ride never ends


I always wished for Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia, but alas, his chance has come and gone.

The ride will never end until Smash NX then it would be over for several years. (Finally, right?!) At least we got Lloyd Mii Costume tho. That's better than nothing.

 

[TheDinoman]

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/732340734855135232

wew lads

 

[Poltergust]

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/732340734855135232

wew lads

As cool as it is, it'll never be used in tournaments or else Nintendo will pull out any support it has for the game.

 

[Jawmuncher]

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/732340734855135232

wew lads

what happened to all the stages

Also

https://twitter.com/Jawmuncher/status/732402739741896706

 

[MrSaturn99]

Add Music Slot Mod or bust!!

 

[Professor Beef]

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/732340734855135232

wew lads

Oh neat a thing that will never be used in official tournaments how awesome

 

[peaceiscloser]

Great news for all you Palutena fans out there: PrinceRamen won a Florida regional with solo Palutena, beating out top contenders like Riot (who has been dominating Florida as of late) and 8-Bitman.

Check out this stream and watch him tear through top 8 on the loser's side.

https://www.twitch.tv/gamersontheedge/v/66401491

I'm so proud of him. =)

mah man. I love seeing her do well, because she really does have a lot more potential than people give her.

 

[jnWake]

Anyone else been reading Source Gaming's translation of the Melee Music roundtable? Super fascinating stuff.

Introduction
Voice Dubbing
Orchestra and Chorus I
Orchestra and Chorus II
Musical Arrangements

It's not finished yet, but highlights include the difficulties of putting together an orchestra, the trials and tribulations of arranging the Temple theme, the concept behind Menu 2, and who their favorite Melee VA is. There's also apparently an entire section dedicated to the DK Rap coming up.

It's damn good. I doubt Sakurai is as involved now as he was back then with the music (way too many tracks now).

I love how cohesive Melee's OST is with less composers, I kinda wish they went back to that. Besides, nothing can go wrong with Ando and Sakai as main composers. Both are incredible.

 

[Dimitri LH]

Great news for all you Palutena fans out there: PrinceRamen won a Florida regional with solo Palutena, beating out top contenders like Riot (who has been dominating Florida as of late) and 8-Bitman.

Check out this stream and watch him tear through top 8 on the loser's side.

https://www.twitch.tv/gamersontheedge/v/66401491

I'm so proud of him. =)

Brings a tear to my eye, thanks for the heads up!

 

[BGBW]

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/732340734855135232

wew lads

Wow, tournament Smash is even sadder than I realised.

 

[peaceiscloser]

https://twitter.com/WhiteTheVII/status/732340734855135232

wew lads

>tournament edition

>has 3 stocks

 

[TheDinoman]

Looks like I was right, 1.1.6 is coming!

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/axfj/update/index.html

 

[MrSaturn99]

Looks like I was right, 1.1.6 is coming!

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/axfj/update/index.html

Oh my

Wonder what changes are a-comin'.

 

[BGBW]

All spare slots are going to be removed.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Come on Roy, Doc and Ganon buffs

After Mewtwo, I need the rest of my favorites buffed.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Looks like I was right, 1.1.6 is coming!

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/axfj/update/index.html

Hmmm. Look like TWILT is right as well. I'm very curious to see any changes.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I'm convinced we're testing the balance for the NX port. It's the only reason I can see for them continuing to do balance patches well after official support has ended. It's probably not hard at all to recompile the same character files for the Wii U as the NX and allows them to continue to support Smash 4 while also balancing the NX port.

 

[random25]

Judging the size of the patch, it seems we would be getting more than just a balance adjustment. New content, maybe?

 

[BY2K]

Why the hell is the 3DS patch 5 times larger than the Wii U one.

 

[Fandangox]

Why the hell is the 3DS patch 5 times larger than the Wii U one.

Ridley's gotta fit somehow.

 

[SuperSah]

Why the hell is the 3DS patch 5 times larger than the Wii U one.

People are guessing stages but tbh I'm unsure on that.

 

[Kaleo]

Why the hell is the 3DS patch 5 times larger than the Wii U one.

From what I understand, Wii U patches just add/replace the necessary contents into previous ones, so they can be smaller. On 3DS, older patches are entirely replaced when a new one arrives.

Spoiler

This said... please Sakurai, spare Bayo

 

[FSLink]

Judging the size of the patch, it seems we would be getting more than just a balance adjustment. New content, maybe?

61MB is not likely to be new content.

 

[random25]

61MB is not likely to be new content.

The 3DS one is more than 300MB though.

 

[SuperSah]

From what I understand, Wii U patches just add/replace the necessary contents into previous ones, so they can be smaller. On 3DS, older patches are entirely replaced when a new one arrives.

Spoiler

This said... please Sakurai, spare Bayo

Really? Many 3DS patches have been small though?

 

[FSLink]

The 3DS one is more than 300MB though.

If you read the posts above me, and if you look at past history, 3DS patches are always pretty large since they combine previous patches.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I'm convinced we're testing the balance for the NX port. It's the only reason I can see for them continuing to do balance patches well after official support has ended. It's probably not hard at all to recompile the same character files for the Wii U as the NX and allows them to continue to support Smash 4 while also balancing the NX port.

I hate to be pessimist because that argument could be countered easily. I could point it out that they are still focusing on the balance changes because they probably aren't working on the characters. Hopefully there is some kind of hint in data! ;P

 

[FSLink]

I'm convinced we're testing the balance for the NX port. It's the only reason I can see for them continuing to do balance patches well after official support has ended. It's probably not hard at all to recompile the same character files for the Wii U as the NX and allows them to continue to support Smash 4 while also balancing the NX port.

I disagree that this is some evidence. And by "official support has ended", you could easily take that to mean "no more DLC".

 

[Kaleo]

Really? Many 3DS patches have been small though?

Actually, every 3DS patch just increase in size every time, since they combine previous patches' contents.

I don't have the exact sizes right now, but if we make some comparison, we'll see a constant increase.

Keep in mind, though, 3DS updates between Europe and NA (and possibly Japan) have different sizes (probably due to extra languages on European games).

*EDIT*

1.1.5: 329MB.

 

[EastOfEden]

Wow, tournament Smash is even sadder than I realised.

Yeesh, I'll say.

 

[FSLink]

Wow, tournament Smash is even sadder than I realised.

Yeesh, I'll say.

How so? Because that's a very narrow viewpoint IMO.

When mods came out, it's not surprising that people would try to make stage list screens like this. Or if you're talking about the small amount of stages, it's not surprising when there's money on the line in tournaments that we choose to avoid stages with RNG elements.

 

[Captain Rage Quit 69]

Interesting, I don't think they've ever announced a "adjustment" patch ahead of time before. I wonder what this could mean, and whether we're getting it anytime soon. Bayo adjustments, more low tier buffs, Ike gets buffed yet again? :O

pls buff doc

 

[FSLink]

Interesting, I don't think they've ever announced a "adjustment" patch ahead of time before. I wonder what this could mean, and whether we're getting it anytime soon. Bayo adjustments, more low tier buffs, Ike gets buffed yet again? :O

pls buff doc

Doc, Puff, Duck Hunt buffs would be great. Some slight nerfs to Bayo, Cloud, and Rosa would be welcome too. Pretty happy with the balance overall at the moment so they only need some slight adjustments.


Really hoping a fix to Lucas's nair too. It's super easy to SDI out of it.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Hoping to see some buffs to the perennial cellar dwellers but not expecting much. Will more likely just be a few nerds at the top.