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NamikazeBurst
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The only time someone is actually using the regular tourneys now is when a Twitch streamer does them. You'll see when they first look at the list that none of them have any players, and then they get full or get some people depending on the streamer.
Nocturnowl
Member
Wasn't tourneys the mode that teased the idea of being like Mario Kart 8 Communities only to turn out complete crap? because Smash with a GAF community like MK8 was all I wanted.
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Tourneys were a super hyped feature prior to its release.
Then we saw they weren't what we wanted at all (you can't even change the rules, it's either 4-player matches all the time or 2-player lobbies).
Regular Tourneys will not be missed. Their most useful feature was to check if you were in FG Hell.
Then we saw they weren't what we wanted at all (you can't even change the rules, it's either 4-player matches all the time or 2-player lobbies).
Regular Tourneys will not be missed. Their most useful feature was to check if you were in FG Hell.
balladofwindfishes
Member
If you're a completionist, make sure to win a tournament soon, there's a milestone for winning your first tournament.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
Finally hit 10,000 battles in Online FG.
Hard to believe this game came out 2 years ago. Still feels new to me.
Hard to believe this game came out 2 years ago. Still feels new to me.
Dr. Buni
Member
SuperAngelo64
Banned
At first I was only playing my main and had a 85%+ win rate, but then I spread myself thin because I wanted to get better with other characters.
I have a philosophy that I've kept since I thought Smash 64 was an Aptril Fools joke back in the 90s when reading Tips&tricks magazine
"Only play the characters you like personally and find a way to get good with them"
So my most played to least played:
King DeDeDe, Mario, Mewtwo, Lucas, Cloud, Little Mac, Bowser.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Seems Olimar will have some new 2D moves to draw from for next time.
Dr. Buni
Member
Cool! I like that philosophy a lot
Which is why I play a few characters that are considered bottom tier by the top players.Green Mamba
Member
Can we talk about how cool Dark Samus would have been as a playable character? Too bad SSB4 was basically her only chance.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Dark Samus is/was the perfect Metroid rep and the perfect Metroid villain to add to Smash. No size issues. A perfectly workable design, animations and move set that would make a totally unique character that wasn't just a Samus semi-clone. And a female villain that isn't just an alt skin of Bowser Jr!
Look at that idle animation where Dark Samus just lurches there. Not even close to anything Samus would do. And in that gif, alone, are perfect side and down smashes.
Heck, let her have Meta Ridley as a Final Smash and let him join the party. Fully playable giant boss monster Final Smash, like Giga Bowser.
Our only hope at this point is... Sylux I guess? Ehh... I guess he'd be alright, but he needs to stop making random cameos and start actually doing something worthwhile. He's been teased for 10 years now, but he's gone nowhere.
But, ironically, the character that is a literal clone in her own series has the most potential for a unique move set compared to Sylux. Who is just Samus with electric morph ball bombs and an electric laser beam thing.
Look at that idle animation where Dark Samus just lurches there. Not even close to anything Samus would do. And in that gif, alone, are perfect side and down smashes.
Heck, let her have Meta Ridley as a Final Smash and let him join the party. Fully playable giant boss monster Final Smash, like Giga Bowser.
Our only hope at this point is... Sylux I guess? Ehh... I guess he'd be alright, but he needs to stop making random cameos and start actually doing something worthwhile. He's been teased for 10 years now, but he's gone nowhere.
But, ironically, the character that is a literal clone in her own series has the most potential for a unique move set compared to Sylux. Who is just Samus with electric morph ball bombs and an electric laser beam thing.
Nocturnowl
Member
That AT of Dark Samus is the biggest tease, probably the best one in the game at how well it represents the character as well as packing a variety of moves.
Dr. Buni
Member
I love Dark Samus' animations (both in the Prime games and in Smash 4). After Ridley she is (was?) my most wanted Metroid rep. Being the main villain in the well received Prime series should have warranted her in Smash, but I guess not.
Can we talk about how cool Dark Samus would have been as a playable character? Too bad SSB4 was basically her only chance.
TheDinoman
Member
Problem is, she has no real future considering her character and story is essentially over.
IF we ever see more actual Metroid Prime games, the primary antagonist will be Sylux, courtesy of our lord and savior Tanabe.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Not having a future hasn't stopped characters from getting in before (ROB, Sheik, Duck Hunt, Ness, Lucas).
And I don't think Dark Samus needs to be gone for good. It's a video game, they can always use video game logic to resurrect her. Make up some excuse like Metroid Prime is just magic space energy and it can manifest in whatever form it wants and use whatever energy source it wants, it just happened to pick Phazon last time, but now it wants to use Space Uranium Part 2 instead of Space Uranium 1.
In other news, Snorlax can now use his move from Smash in his own game!
And I don't think Dark Samus needs to be gone for good. It's a video game, they can always use video game logic to resurrect her. Make up some excuse like Metroid Prime is just magic space energy and it can manifest in whatever form it wants and use whatever energy source it wants, it just happened to pick Phazon last time, but now it wants to use Space Uranium Part 2 instead of Space Uranium 1.
In other news, Snorlax can now use his move from Smash in his own game!
Dr. Buni
Member
That is a fair point, but it is sad that a character only gets in Smash now if they have a "future" (unless they are a retro addition like Duck Hunt Duo, I guess). Smash used to be the history of Nintendo games, but it is not quite like that anymore, it seems.
Sylux isn't all that exciting because we don't know much about them yet. We don't what they want, we don't even know if Sylux is a he or a she. Sylux has an interesting and distinct design, though, so maybe they have potential for being a fun neat addition to Smash.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Be kind of cool if Sylux was actually one of Samus' friends from her GF days who was jealous of how much attention she was getting due to her magic bird powers, so this lady decided to make her own powers and stole a suit and decided to make Samus' life miserable.
So she'd be like the anti-Samus. Except super crazy, violent and evil.
So she'd be like the anti-Samus. Except super crazy, violent and evil.
He's a classic, but very overused in recent years. Tanabe's done very well in the role lately, hopefully he'll be able to share some of the focus.
To be fair, Sheik and Lucas were relevant during the planning of their respective debut Smash games, and R.O.B. and Duck Hunt are intentionally surprising retro characters. The only two not-quite-retro, not-quite-relevant newcomers I can recall in the entirety of the series are Ness and Marth, and they're both lead characters from multi-installment series.
I know there aren't any "rules" when it comes to character inclusion, but I have a hard time anticipating side characters who haven't been used in a while (like Dark Samus or K. Rool). I feel like those sorts of characters need another appearance under their belt before seriously being considered.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
*Ninten cries to a corner*
fredrancour
Member
Can we talk about how cool Dark Samus would have been as a playable character? Too bad SSB4 was basically her only chance.
To be honest, I feel like Metroid Prime remastered is a more likely future entry in the franchise than a new 3d metroid. If that remaster turns out to be a remastered trilogy, that might be an excuse to introduce her.
Who's that?
It's such a relief to see you back with a normal avatar.
Can we talk about how cool Dark Samus would have been as a playable character? Too bad SSB4 was basically her only chance.
I was going to post about how awesome of a metroid rep she'd be , but I didn't want to kick Ridley fans while they're down.
But yeah, Dark Samus would be a legitimately great character choice. "Too similar to Samus" honestly doesn't apply when it would be trivial to differentiate the 2. (Like having her roll be teleports. Man, that would be the coolest)
Nocturnowl
Member
That's the spirit!
I like how Tanabe has stepped up to being a close second simply because he just always wanted to pick back up his DSi Galactic Federation Spin Off.
MrSaturn99
Member
Dark Samus would be cool but for whatever I'm just not interested in Metroid newcomers.
Green Mamba
Member
The great part about that special Smash presentation two years ago or whenever it was was that it nixed the hopes of both Dark Samus and Ridley (unless you were nuts) so it was immediately apparent no new Metroid character would be added.
MrSaturn99
Member
I always get a sick pleasure out of deconfirmations via Assist Trophies.
I mean, is it a coincidence that the Waluigi AT had the two best updates for both Brawl and 4?
I mean, is it a coincidence that the Waluigi AT had the two best updates for both Brawl and 4?
MrSaturn99
Member
haha oh man I forgot about that
Tooooo funny.
Tooooo funny.
Dr. Buni
Member
I remember people saying Sakurai was unprofessional or whatever for his attitude when revealing the Waluigi AT. I thought it was pretty funny, but then again I don't care for the character (and I am not ashamed of admitting I got a bit salty when Ridley wasn't playable, but it was my fault in believing Metroid would ever be properly represented in Smash).
On a different note, I am checking the speedruns from the last Summer Games Done Quick, currently on the Super Mario RPG one and I am thinking how cool Geno could have been as an actual playable character in Smash.
. He is visually unique and the potential for an unique moveset is there. Plus, he has a fanbase.
On a different note, I am checking the speedruns from the last Summer Games Done Quick, currently on the Super Mario RPG one and I am thinking how cool Geno could have been as an actual playable character in Smash.
Although Mallow is the best character.
MrSaturn99
Member
Geminosity
Member
For you, the day Sakurai deconfirmed your favourite character was one of the more depressing days of your life.
But for Sakurai... it was monday.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It killed my W101 and Dillon hopes yeah.
Geminosity
Member
Character-chat aside, I do actually wonder if a smash NX would have redesigned menu, aka something better than the horrid, hard-to-navigate mess on Wii-U and 3DS :s
Professor Beef
Banned
It's not hard to navigate.
Geminosity
Member
I gave a room with 5 gamers a challenge to find the game mode 'trophy rush' on my 3DS and started them off on the main menu. It took them over 5 minutes working together to work it out.
Also, if I've been away from the game for any length of time I genuinely have to think about where training, replays and records are before I go find them. I honestly can't think of any game menu system I can make that claim with as I can usually find my way to whatever in a game I've played before without any real conscious thought :/
Professor Beef
Banned
I'm sorry for your poor memory.
Geminosity
Member
I can understand that you'd be sorry for making something up, your apology is accepted
I'm actually baffled that you're defending the smash bros menus and trying to claim they're not a usability nightmare.
Gotta agree with Geminosity, the Smash U menu is ridiculously unintuitive. Why is there are a "Games & More?" tab? Why does the game make you choose between Solo & Group mode options immediately after? Shouldn't Solo & Group be a choice AFTER you decide what mode to play (or why not do what Brawl did???) Custom and Vault need to be in their own sections, not in the Games & More tab. Why is training mode represented by a relatively tiny icon?
I can thumb through 64/Melee/Brawl's menu in my sleep, which I can't say the same about Smash 4. It's bad design.
I can thumb through 64/Melee/Brawl's menu in my sleep, which I can't say the same about Smash 4. It's bad design.
Geminosity
Member
Yeah, that's what makes it so strange. The previous entries in the series had fairly serviceable menus so it's unusual that they upturned the boat in the latest one.
I've also lost count of how many local multiplayer events I've been at where I had to help casual players who've set themselves to CPU while trying to change their playername XD
Professor Beef
Banned
All I said was that they aren't hard to navigate. You're the one throwing out the hyperbole.I can understand that you'd be sorry for making something up, your apology is accepted
I'm actually baffled that you're defending the smash bros menus and trying to claim they're not a usability nightmare.
Geminosity
Member
Fair enough, I do tend towards hyperbole when posting admittedly. It's a habit I try to keep in check but not always with much success
Unless you mean the 5 people taking over 5 minutes thing. I straight up did that. It was mostly because I was curious if it was just me struggling to find that game mode or if it was a more universal problem :3