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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT| It's out in Japan
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Megalosaro
Banned
Has anyone confirmed if you can do Final Destination Mode on Past Stages? New stages, I'm sure you can. But it'd be nice if you play that way on stages from the older games too
Jawmuncher
Member
Villager is my favorite of the demo.
So much fun to play. Glad there's a female alt.
So much fun to play. Glad there's a female alt.
Luckily both types of players can enjoy the game.
And to think Sakurai and the rest of the team have to go through similar stuff when they design characters---
(the guy from the left that is)
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
So far people saying that he's not assist trophy for Smash 3DS.
This demo is great. I'm a big fan of Brawl but I can't deny that the added speed is welcome without being way too fast for me like Melee is. Also, Villager is awesome.
Yes, I saw Corneria being played in Omega Mode.
Yes, I saw Corneria being played in Omega Mode.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I really hope a patch comes out in time for the western launch that fixes the awful netcode. They promised that they fixed it and it's still just as bad as Brawl
I'm surprised. I have the same expression as the dude on the right when I'm playing. Scarily accurate lol.
Not75Drops
Member
Surprisingly, I've actually started to like how Mega Man plays. His specials are pretty meh though. Villager is still a bit iffy for me besides the Bowling Bawl. Side aerials are ok for some far damage.
The demo is REALLY hard for me. At least I have a 3DS XL grip (CYBER) so my hands aren't bad now. And I'm getting used to the ways to jump. But level 9 CPU Megaman destroys me on Mario most all the time, with or without items.
Does anyone have any tips for this matchup? Megaman seems to have good up-guarding moves, and really powerful AOE damage, and it's super rare that I can even land a smash attack on him. It's also very difficult for me to even come close to landing Mario neutral A or forward A in the air.
Does anyone have any tips for this matchup? Megaman seems to have good up-guarding moves, and really powerful AOE damage, and it's super rare that I can even land a smash attack on him. It's also very difficult for me to even come close to landing Mario neutral A or forward A in the air.
Villager is really fun but I can't figure out how to ko with him/her besides the lucky tree or chasing them off the stage with a rocket.
Megaman is so good. I expected him to be pretty bad from the impressions but I have no problem killing with him. Some of his moves could be stronger/have better range but that's only minor considering how many good options he has for racking up damage and killing.
Pikachu/Link/Mario are all beasts.
Megaman is so good. I expected him to be pretty bad from the impressions but I have no problem killing with him. Some of his moves could be stronger/have better range but that's only minor considering how many good options he has for racking up damage and killing.
Pikachu/Link/Mario are all beasts.
KelpPlankton
Member
FD mode seems to work with basically every stage. The only two I haven't seen use it yet were Flat Zone and Gameboy. Everything else, absolutely. Those two, not sure.
Past stages included. They made entirely new forms for those. It's cool.
TheSlySoul
Member
I am really sad to hear that. Hopefully the Wii U version is more stable.I really hope a patch comes out in time for the western launch that fixes the awful netcode. They promised that they fixed it and it's still just as bad as Brawl
I am losing hope after Smash Run has no online.
Prevolition
Member
I didn't think I'd like Mega Man THIS much. I'm a grappler so his quick grabs make me happy. I might have to retire Diddy and Luigi...
My second and third favorites are Villager and Mario.
Villager has too slow of a grab and his forward smash doesn't reach far enough to my liking. Also fair and bair don't have much strength.
Mario is much improved but does anyone get frustrated with the close proximity gap for his f smash?
My second and third favorites are Villager and Mario.
Villager has too slow of a grab and his forward smash doesn't reach far enough to my liking. Also fair and bair don't have much strength.
Mario is much improved but does anyone get frustrated with the close proximity gap for his f smash?
I really hope a patch comes out in time for the western launch that fixes the awful netcode. They promised that they fixed it and it's still just as bad as Brawl
That sucks to hear.
Do you have all the characters...?
autobzooty
Member
spam the cape a lot! megaman has lots of projectiles that you could turn against him with a well timed or lucky cape. especially his charge shot...
apart from that, mario's best tools are his aerials so if you can get good at short hops and fast falls you can make magic happen. in particular, his back air is really good for defending against people trying to recover if you dont have a good approach vector for your forward air.
i prefer back air to neutral air. easier to do, imo.
edit: oh and one more thing! if you ever don't know what to do, just throw a fireball. that damage adds up after a while. it's also useful to lob a fireball out when you're recovering, as it can keep the pressure off you while you grab the ledge.
I really hope a patch comes out in time for the western launch that fixes the awful netcode. They promised that they fixed it and it's still just as bad as Brawl
I just watched an online match video... e_e
I'm starting to worry about this.
Matt Attack
Member
I really enjoyed the demo. Played it with a friend for like 2 hours and we both can't wait for October 3rd! Villager was weird at first but I really love him now. I'm also surprised at how much I liked Mega Man. I didn't really think he'd be for me but he was definitely my favorite to play.
It feels absolutely natural of your focusing on your own fighter. A 4x CPU match will look like butt though
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Prevolition
Member
Are you sure it's the netcode? Is this a common complaint for everyone already?I really hope a patch comes out in time for the western launch that fixes the awful netcode. They promised that they fixed it and it's still just as bad as Brawl
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Just fought him.
-You're much faster than he is, abuse it
-Shield his sticky missle
-Abuse Mario's amazing meteor strikes for EZ Kos
-Focus on normal attacks specials are not super effective imo.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I kept hearing many different opinions on netcode so I guess it's depend on your opponents' locations or routers.
Not75Drops
Member
People have said that they've had an ok experience. I don't know if the Japanese servers are just making it worse.
He would have had to save them as Highlights, Twitch no longer automatically saves archives iirc.
Prevolition
Member
If it's hit and miss then it wouldn't be netcode but wireless variables like you mentioned. (Which I REALLY hope is the case)
Edit: well I didn't realize netcode was a more general term for any wireless interaction so... don't listen to me lol
Captain Rage Quit 69
Banned
Really? I'm playing on the 3DS, so basically you're gonna want to use your jab, nair, bair, uair and cape to get in. Be wary of him knocking you into the air, and pick your battles. When you grab him, either throw him off the edge and fair him down, or up throw him and go for a follow-up (haven't tried down throw, but given the Rush glitch I think it would be pointless.) Finally, the shield is really strong, don't be afraid to abuse it for the win. Also, I've noted that in the air fireballs fall really quickly, so try to damage him that way. Don't bother edgeguarding him with cape, he can just Rush Coil again.
I'm a Doc main from Melee, so the experience playing him there really gives me an edge here given that I can apply most of my tricks here, and (SSB4 newcomer spoilers)
Dr. Mario is returning.
Ha Wario and the Doc have so much.....Swag.*yuck*
Prevolition
Member
Not enough shulking going on in the world.
It's not the netcode, it's your (opponents) connection.
I guess no one is feeling his playstyle quite yet.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Three things are turning me off. Im still hyped as ever but:
Damage + knockback seem to be significantly reduced - the effects (plus hitstun) make it seem like attacks are doing an incredible amount of damage and are super powerful but in reality damage has been toned down compared to previous games.
New ledge mechanic - the new ledge mechanic has the potential to totally change the game, and not in a good way. Sakurai effectively removed passive K.O.s By that I mean K.O'ing an opponent when you actually don't have to do anything except stop their movement/recovery. Passive K.O.'s added variety and depth to the game. With their removal the game is not as interesting. I don't know why he changed it.
K.O. Bounding box - This in addition to the first point means that matches last longer and seem to be less interesting. I suspect that 2 stock matches will probably become standard unless the competitive community decides to raise the damage ratio for each match. Nobody wants to watch a match where the majority of play is a person being knocked far off stage only to recover and the cycle to continue again ... and again .... and again ... and again. It's boring. At that point it's not trading blows. It's trading one blow ... every 20 seconds.
I know everyone is hype right now and I'm not trying to deflate that but remember when Brawl came out and people were super hype about it? It took a long time for the denial to wear off. I suspect that the increased KO box/decreased damage and ledge mechanics will be the new tripping. It's just antithetical to competitive play and seems to echo Nintendo's mantra that everyone is a winner and deserves infinite tries to get there. All the new gameplay mechanics lend themselves to casual "retries". Are you not that good at smash? Well lets lower the damage so you can last longer. Are you not that good at Smash? Well let's increase the Ko box so you can last longer. Are you not that good at Smash? Well let's make it so that anyone can grab the ledge at anytime so that you can last longer!
Damage + knockback seem to be significantly reduced - the effects (plus hitstun) make it seem like attacks are doing an incredible amount of damage and are super powerful but in reality damage has been toned down compared to previous games.
New ledge mechanic - the new ledge mechanic has the potential to totally change the game, and not in a good way. Sakurai effectively removed passive K.O.s By that I mean K.O'ing an opponent when you actually don't have to do anything except stop their movement/recovery. Passive K.O.'s added variety and depth to the game. With their removal the game is not as interesting. I don't know why he changed it.
K.O. Bounding box - This in addition to the first point means that matches last longer and seem to be less interesting. I suspect that 2 stock matches will probably become standard unless the competitive community decides to raise the damage ratio for each match. Nobody wants to watch a match where the majority of play is a person being knocked far off stage only to recover and the cycle to continue again ... and again .... and again ... and again. It's boring. At that point it's not trading blows. It's trading one blow ... every 20 seconds.
I know everyone is hype right now and I'm not trying to deflate that but remember when Brawl came out and people were super hype about it? It took a long time for the denial to wear off. I suspect that the increased KO box/decreased damage and ledge mechanics will be the new tripping. It's just antithetical to competitive play and seems to echo Nintendo's mantra that everyone is a winner and deserves infinite tries to get there. All the new gameplay mechanics lend themselves to casual "retries". Are you not that good at smash? Well lets lower the damage so you can last longer. Are you not that good at Smash? Well let's increase the Ko box so you can last longer. Are you not that good at Smash? Well let's make it so that anyone can grab the ledge at anytime so that you can last longer!
famicomplicated
Neo Member
I will be playing against other guys in Japan this week, I'm hoping that it's going to be good!
I actually remember Brawl being reasonably playable online when it was Jpn Vs Jpn.
I actually remember Brawl being reasonably playable online when it was Jpn Vs Jpn.
So as a Ness main, and someone who is disappointed to hear how badly he was nerfed again, I've been thinking for a while how much I like Villager. Well, seeing as how he's one of a handful of characters available in the demo, I gave him a shot. DAMN is he weird and fun. His moves are creative and such a blast to use. So I was playing, and items are on by default on the demo, and I picked myself up a beam sword and started smacking Mario around with it. I pressed a few buttons and all of a sudden my beam sword was gone. WTF?
Then I realized that I pressed B, which can Pocket anything. That's right, you can hide items that you hold with Pocket. Fought Mario for a bit, got him off the edge, pulled out my beam sword and smashed him in the face with it. Death.
My eyes watered for a second. Beautiful.
Then I realized that I pressed B, which can Pocket anything. That's right, you can hide items that you hold with Pocket. Fought Mario for a bit, got him off the edge, pulled out my beam sword and smashed him in the face with it. Death.
My eyes watered for a second. Beautiful.
pikmin_trainer
Neo Member
I am more concerned with my hands than my 3DS.
I should probably stop playing this game for now.
I should probably stop playing this game for now.
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