I was wondering the same thing lol. Look like many may have jumped to conclusions a bit too soon.
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I was wondering the same thing lol. Look like many may have jumped to conclusions a bit too soon.
Mega Man seems like the character that everyone goes "HOLY SHIT YES MAIN MAIN MAIN" when he's revealed but then when the game comes out he'll be somewhat forgotten. Kinda makes me sad, but it seems like his standard moveset is a bit outclassed by a lot of characters.
Neoriceisgood
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Yeah, they did fantastic job with the dog. I'm glad that you appreciate him now after you gave me hard time.
I had a problem with how most fans portrayed him. (dog holding zapper, dog slapping poeple with duck.)
I actually firmly believe a character should have a moveset that is a natural fit to their game and/or heavily inspired by it in a logical way; (obviously some freedom when it's hilarious and/or okay within a game's world is okay e.g. WFT, CF and Fox/Falco.)
One of my big complaints with Brawl has always been that quite a few characters feel a bit too much like they're adhering to a "typical smash moveset" rather than directly trying to present their game. (The 3 mii archetypes are good examples of this in a way); I think SSB4 made a lot of characters way more unique and interesting than people expected, and that's a good thing.
If people had suggested duck hunt as he's incarnated in game "you're the shooter and the dog's essentially setting down the targets/your field representation like in the game" rather than just "lol you can play the dog and he shoots people", I would've had no problems with that from the get go.
I've never been too outspoken about character speculation in the hype threads, (aside from telling people their choices suck) but aside from a few legitimately bad choices I'm mosty of the opinion that a character's strength in smash directly relates to how unique and inspired their moveset is. When people support a character and give them the most cookie-cutter moveset as "evidence they could be playable" I'm inclined to dismiss that choice based on that alone.
(for clarity: I'm fine with clones not being as inspired/unqiue as I fully realise they're way easier to make, it even takes me like only 10% of the time to sprite them tops.)
Force of habit maybe?
Well originally I did want the Dark Link avatar before knowing about the FD alt
Nope. Not as far as I can tell from watching. His bthrow is a little stronger, and his fair is finally fixed to do all the hits but the range is reduced.
Duck Hunt was one of the first two games I ever played, and I love zoning characters. It's why Snake is my main.
I'm playin that dog hardcore. Besides, the same thing will happen with him that happens to nearly every other character like him. He'll look strong at first and his crazy design will make a lot of people hype, but then it will level out and the people that really want to play him will. He doesn't have any crazy obvious kill moves like Snake's up tilt.
I'm playin that dog hardcore. Besides, the same thing will happen with him that happens to nearly every other character like him. He'll look strong at first and his crazy design will make a lot of people hype, but then it will level out and the people that really want to play him will. He doesn't have any crazy obvious kill moves like Snake's up tilt.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Have to admit, I'm actually sort of bothered by the "THEY'RE JUST LIKE BANJO KAZOOIE!" thing with DHD.
I could sort of see it before we saw their gameplay and they had the basic mammal + bird duo going on, but now, like, I really don't see anything Banjo-Kazooie about them, except perhaps the Up-B, and even then that's stretching it.
I could sort of see it before we saw their gameplay and they had the basic mammal + bird duo going on, but now, like, I really don't see anything Banjo-Kazooie about them, except perhaps the Up-B, and even then that's stretching it.
sorakirosaki
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i think im the only one who went from being okay with megaman to wanting to main him i find his tilts t be really satisfying and his up smash to be pretty decent at least from my plays with the demo anyway lol
theprodigy
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probably habit, I would like them to mix it up if only for the music though
SquiddyCracker
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What stream are you guys watching?
Shulk looks really fun, but man he'll be tricky to play since you gotta learn what each Monado mode thingy does.
Shulk looks really fun, but man he'll be tricky to play since you gotta learn what each Monado mode thingy does.
Demon Lizardman
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Holy fuck, there is a Link and the Faces of evil alt color for toon link!
Hot Coldman
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That's A Link To The Past, man
sorakirosaki
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i think looking at the color will be a good start i like how fast the arts supposedly move
IntelliHeath
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I'm so happy he seems good, I hate it when the kind of characters I really enjoy seeing show up turn out to be poor. Like Rocket Raccoon.
Fair point. Yeah, I really like RR but I'm sure there is few main teams that are still have RR being part of teams. I got owned by RR online mode. He's still good but required a lot of time tho.
Red, blue and green are easy to remember. Still not sure what yellow and purple does.
dragonlife
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Wow, this Bwett guy is cute.
MannyToons
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Any reason why the TourneyLocator guys aren't using FD-mode stages?
OmegaSmash
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It's a tournament, so no. They should at least go with Ferox and Prisms since they look fine enough.
Platforms are important
There's no reason for you to be bothered because there is nothing wrong with that comparison. It just reminds people of Banjo and Kazooie which is a good thing for a lot of us that never got to see those characters make it into Smash. Hell there is a skin that has some similar colors to that duo.
Nobody is saying that DHD is just a rip off of Banjo-Kazooie. DHD doesn't roll around or have the bird shoot eggs. It is just the concept behind the character itself that reminds people rather than specific moves. It is a mammal paired with a bird that helps it fight and fly through the air.
For another example, I like the concept behind Bowser Jr. because he reminds me of Tron Bonne from Marvel vs. Capcom. That isn't a knock against Bowser Jr. by saying he isn't original, rather it is me being excited because the character shows similarities to another character that I am a fan of.
sorakirosaki
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from the looks of it yello is shield which lowers the knockback of the attacks u receive plus super armor in some cases (i think i saw shulk not flinching at some points)
and purple increases the damage of attacks and specials from the looks of it
i remember sakurai posting the effects but i dont have it on hand
theprodigy
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I think for a day 2 tournament they just went with the most neutral stages, they'll probably make a more detailed stagelist later lol
Figured it out- it's an NPC you can get to assist you on Ness' stage.
You're right, I forgot RBF had a scrolling part to it. Not sure about Paper Mario.
But yeah, I don't get why we don't see Ferox or Magicant.
There's still FD mode. Some variety won't kill anyone. Is the reason why Sakurai added the option in the first place.
Purple increases % damage and yellow is shield.
MannyToons
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Oh right. Never even thought about that. They can be very useful.
OminousShadow
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翔 (Jump): higher jumps, lower defense. (Green)
疾 (Speed): faster movement, weaker attacks. (Blue)
盾(Shield): higher defense, slower movement. (Yellow)
斬(Buster): stronger attacks, weaker launch ability. (Purple)
撃(Smash): Stronger launch ability, weaker attacks, lower defense against launching. (Red)
I still can't understand how he's even remotely bad. Yes, his down-b is awful and maybe even his neutral-b but pretty much any other move is decent. He's the best character on the demo for me.
The players probably aren't being considerate of spectators who might want variance in music/aesthetics. Really, there's no reason to use the FD-mode stages when they're all the same as regular FD besides aesthetics. If they had more significant differences (like blastzone size variance) I'm sure they would be used for this. The players just want to play.
Also, platforms on BF and YI:B are really important and better stages than the FD-skins for counterpicking purposes.
Elfforkusu
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I don't speak moon runes, I need some colors!
OminousShadow
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翔 (Jump): higher jumps, lower defense. (Green)
疾 (Speed): faster movement, weaker attacks. (Blue)
盾(Shield): higher defense, slower movement. (Yellow)
斬(Buster): stronger attacks, weaker launch ability. (Purple)
撃(Smash): Stronger launch ability, weaker attacks, lower defense against launching. (Red)
sorakirosaki
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speed is blue
shield is yellow
buster is purple
smash is red
and jump is green XD
SquiddyCracker
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Thanks, thanks, and thanks. Speed, jump and smash are the only ones I ever see so far.
Hot Coldman
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Palutena's Reflects seem super dangerous against Link. I like her a lot.
Elfforkusu
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Thank you!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
You should check my post between 2012 to 2013. (Maybe after 2011). Also I did support DHD during Brawl.
. That's why I'm escalated about him being in the game. Finally!That's good!
That notion is annoying since they don't really share a lot in common. Especially they said red duck is inspired by Kazooie which isn't completely true. Red Duck actually is in the game.
I'll have to bookmark this post. Colour vision deficiency will make it hard to remember by colour.
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