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[GiantBreadbug]

I love Sakurai's Duck Hunt. The dog looks so so soooooooo much better than the original NES look.

Has someone taken the time to look closely and describe the moveset? I think the neutral special is the can right?

 

[Gonzo The Great]

If we're going to start making fun of people because their most wanted characters didn't get in, I'm out.

 

[AlphaDragoon]

Duck Hunt dog has a more iconic status than any of those characters minus Mewtwo.

I'd actually argue Ganondorf as the "iconic" character in that list. But yeah, Duck Hunt Dog to me is in no way a bad choice. The salt over this is getting crazy. XD

 

[Ahnez]

At least Ridley fans are going to get Ridley in the game. There are worse fates.

*In the Wii U version only.

Pyrosphere is Wii U exclusive

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Wait, all the Koopalings are in as Bowsy's alts?

Bowser Jr.s alts.

 

[Spinluck]

jiggs confirmed for best hat yessssssssssss

You remember that thread that said this game was just Brawl HD and was recycling all the character models and animations?

 

[IntelliHeath]

Snake

Too early. I still think it's too early to count him out. They should wait until Wii U for solid proof that they are completely cut.

 

[ffdgh]

Link plz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8an5UBO8jI

Nothing amazing but she's already looking better than brawl peach.

 

[Josephl64]

Well you said the PIkachu thing, and Lucario and Greninja have manly and deep voices. And R.O.B. is just a robot, if there was a male counting of characters it wouldn't be there anyways

Pretty sure Lucario is a husky lass

Spoiler

don't take this seriously

 

[Regulus Tera]

Still salty as fuck Duck Hunt and Wii Fit Trainer got in over far more deserving characters regardless of how good they look in gameplay

Duck Hunt + Super Mario Bros. is one of the most ubiquitous video game SKUs of all time. Wii Fit popularised the "health" genre of video games and helped sell the Wii in the monstrous numbers it sold.

Define deserving.

 

[BassForever]

Duck Hunt dog has a more iconic status than any of those characters minus Mewtwo.

No he isn't, he's literally a laugh that people found annoying because they suck at light gun games as a kid that became an internet meme over the years.

I don't like the character, I never liked his game, I don't like his inclusion over other characters that I do like. Just because Sakurai made him unique does not mean I have to like him, or think he's a good inclusion

 

[Starphoenix]

Yes characters who have been in multiple games over the past 20 years deserve to be in smash before another irrelevant retro rep that represents some of the most shallow and repetitive games in the NES library.

My father knows about the Duck Hunt Dog

 

[Neoxon]

I almost had the Ridley Salt post ready a few hours ago, but my phone deleted my progress & I had a class coming up at the time, so I waited to get on my laptop to finish the job.

I initially had 4 quotes, but I was able to more than double that on said laptop.

 

[Anth0ny]

Have we ever had to since after 64?

Though the multiplayer requirements are much easier now. That's kinda cool.

Yeah but the vs. mode only requirements for Melee were insane, and harder than just playing through subspace in Brawl.

With Smash 4, I play each character 3 times in vs. mode and everyone is unlocked.

 

[SmithnCo]

Fucking lol

 

[SenorArdilla]

Brawl in the family gets there with the jokes again, long before we even realise we need them.

Heh.

 

[Kyzon]

Ganondorf's Neutral B seems faster now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK6vpkUyrmw&list=UU-KuWeJ48G6rPA2lCgQirew

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Sort of disappointing though, in terms of female characters, only two of them are their own character...Rosalina and Palutena.

The rest are just palette swaps, and only WFT and Mii Gunner have the female as the "default" one.

 

[jon bones]

thanks for all the great info! seems to be that time of the thread where i bail. i'll see y'all online.

Sort of disappointing though, in terms of female characters, only two of them are their own character...Rosalina and Palutena.

The rest are just palette swaps, and only WFT and Mii Gunner have the female as the "default" one.

and still no black or brown characters -_-

 

[shink]

Game says all the characters have been unlocked and unlocks All-Star mode.

I'm so sad. RIP Ice Climbers

 

[Kouichi]

You remember that thread that said this game was just Brawl HD and was recycling all the characters and animations?

Goodness gracious, where they wrong. I absolutely adore all the new animations, models, and alt colors in this game.

 

[Toad.T]

Have to ask, are we waiting on anything more to leak? Besides the character specific changes, I mean.

Also, thank you Neorice.

 

[The Great Gonzales]

If we're going to start making fun of people because their most wanted characters didn't get in, I'm out.

It's the extreme, histrionic reactions we're making fun of. Look back at Neoxon's post. Someone said this:

Sakurai confirmed to be a disgusting, power-hungry, expectation playing dictator-developer who doesn't care about what the fans want.

...and he doesn't appear to be joking.

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Is that you, Deckard Cain?

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I don't get it, why are characters like the koopalings alts for Bowser jr, but something like dark pit a separate character?

 

[munchie64]

Ok so how long till release day? I really wanna know how much the press knew.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Ridley isn't even that popular outside of an extremely vocal fanbase in the west. And nobody in Japan gives a shit about him (and which community do you think Sakurai has an easier time seeing?)

I don't get how people can say this is the worst roster. Are they just unaware of 64? Are they ignoring the vast majority of veterans returned (and most that didn't were honestly not that popular or well used outside of small online communities)

 

[astrogamer]

you make a great point, but how do we know that Jiggly isn't male?

How do we know if Lucario, Greninja or Charizard aren't females?

Spoiler

Gender Ratios

 

[roknin]

JEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSUUUUUUUUSSSS JIMMITY CRICKET

Like, dawg.

Damn. XD

I don't even think that picture represents enough salt there.

It is at this point where they need to walk away from the computer, go outside and take a dip in the cool purifying waters of Lake Minnetonka.

 

[RagnarokX]

???????????

Yes. Ridley is a boss character. Just like Yellow Devil is a boss character. The context of that part of the video was boss characters that act as stage hazards. This game has several such boss character stage hazards.

 

[Kouichi]

Heh.

Oh my, he really can predict the future haha

 

[Majukun]

Ridley, Toad, Dixie Kong, Mewtwo, Impa, a Ganondorf with a unique moveset

Just to name a few

ridley it's too disproprtionated to be a fighter...it's the kind of crature that looks good only standing still or flying (and that's how it has been portrayed in most of the games)..animating such creature for a fighting game while looking convincing would be next to impossible..even changing some of this chara design like trimming his wings

toad doesn't really have much to offer since in all the games all he does is smile and stay still,apart from mario 2 usa

dixie kong would have probably ended up being a clone of diddy

mewtwo already "evolved" to lucario years ago

IMpa is another character that didn't really do much in the games where she appears..i can just see her as a clone of sheik maybe

I agree for ganondorf with his own moveset though,maybe even in his pig form

 

[Moonlight]

Sort of disappointing though, in terms of female characters, only two of them are their own character...Rosalina and Palutena.

The rest are just palette swaps, and only WFT and Mii Gunner have the female as the "default" one.

I don't see how it matters, to be honest. We still get the option of playing as female characters, and the roster has taken huge strides in terms of equivalency as compared to previous games.

 

[Kyou]

Throwing a technicality here, not Solid Snake. In all seriousness though Snake was always an odd inclusion to begin with. Before that he was in Brawl, and before that?

Twin Snakes, Ghost Babel, Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2

I doubt he was cut for any reason other than Konami is a pachinko company that repeatedly makes very poor video game related decisions.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Game says all the characters have been unlocked and unlocks All-Star mode.

For the 3DS version JK dont kill me guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8an5UBO8jI

Nothing amazing but she's already looking better than brawl peach.

Heh and I loved brawl peach finna watch

 

[Regulus Tera]

Geno 2.0 indeed.

 

[Gamefreak]

Oh God I broke my 3ds lol
After hours of Monster hunter and a day of smash 4, the analog is finally broken.

 

[ZeroMaverick]

Sick work! Thank you very much for these. ^_^

Still laying claim over Lemmy, just can't get it posted yet (at work lol).

Sorry.

I called him on page 259

(Unless you called him before?)

 

[SenorArdilla]

I don't get it, why are characters like the koopalings alts for Bowser jr, but something like dark pit a separate character?

He has different stats for some reason. Just like Lucina.

 

[munchie64]

If we're going to start making fun of people because their most wanted characters didn't get in, I'm out.

I guess we're all just bullies.

 

[Nanashrew]

jiggs confirmed for best hat yessssssssssss

I wanna know the rest of the hats Jiggs gets~ We know Pikachu gets a Choice Band in one.

 

[theprodigy]

good to see D-idara in particular melting down

 

[StreetsAhead]

#UrbanChampionWasRobbed

 

[GregLombardi]

Some people are mad in here. Whoa.

I guess I should have expected it.

I don't think this is the final word. MK8 DLC proved that.

 

[MrSaturn99]

PFFFFFFFFTTTTT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ohhhh wooww

 

[Coffee Dog]

I don't get it, why are characters like the koopalings alts for Bowser jr, but something like dark pit a separate character?

Roster padding, and the character is popular enough so that nobody cares.

I mean, lucina is the least different of all the clones and nobody minds because a lot of people played fire emblem.

 

[IntelliHeath]

So Heath, does this mean I can take Neorice's Takamaru avatar? I've wanted to pull a Horizon with that avatar for a while.

Yep, he's all your now

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Have to ask, are we waiting on anything more to leak? Besides the character specific changes, I mean.

Also, thank you Neorice.

- Pokeball Pokemon. Any really hidden ones like, say, Diancie or something.
- Trophies. We have all the ATs iirc. But I wanna see what characters got Trophies, because that may hint to possible DLC if certain characters are absent. Plus I wanna see if any obscure characters got new Trophy Models.
- Soundtrack. Smash Run apparently has a lot of songs.
- All the Smash Run Enemies and End Matches.
- Custom Moves. Mii Customization.

And...that's it, really.

 

[Josephl64]

How do we know if Lucario, Greninja or Charizard aren't females?

Spoiler

Gender Ratios

we've already finished talking about this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=129555848&postcount=15815

Spoiler

also I doubt you can say ratios mean absolutes, nevertheless I am wrong because accessories, etc.

 

[ffdgh]

jiggs confirmed for best hat yessssssssssss

Looking good jiggly. Shame peach's crown didn't return.

 

[Red Arremer]

Yes. Ridley is a boss character. Just like Yellow Devil is a boss character. The context of that part of the video was boss characters that act as stage hazards. This game has several such boss character stage hazards.

And you mean to tell me that while Dialga and whoever else was on the Spear Pillar stage flipping the stage upside down or inverting controls is not as intrusive or centering the gameplay around that stage hazard, than a "stage hazard boss character" behaving like an actual boss?

If Ridley's role as a boss is literally doing nothing but occasionally grab players, I'd rather not have any Ridley at all. Not even as trophy.