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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI

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MrSaturn99

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Kyzon said:
Can we talk about how Sassy Ganondorf has become?

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He reminds me of Berordn's old avatar.

Karsticles said:
As someone who primarily plays villains, I just wish we had one new villain. Sure, Ridley was my top choice, but I would have even been happy with Mewtwo returning.

Also, cutting Ice Climbers is really miserable.
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You don't like Bowser Jr./the Koopalings?
 
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Nanashrew

Banned
Is there no video of the Master Core level 9 match Gema Yue had? I honestly can't find one on YouTube and that was the hypest fight since he gains an extra form and makes Tabuu look really pathetic
 
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Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
After all is said and done, Donkey Kong really was the worst-treated multi-game franchise. :(
 
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Kinsei

Banned
Just to put things into perspective of why I'm disappointed with the roster.

DK only has two characters despite the series being in every Smash and every other major Nintendo franchise has at least three characters (Not counting clones).

Metroid still only has one character despite being in since the start and being quite popular. They clearly knew Dark Samus would work as a character, so it baffles me why she was an AT.

Awakening got 2 characters even though it's a shit game.

6 unique characters from Brawl were cut. I consider that a major loss. If it was just one or two I could accept it.

Ganondorf is still a clone.

Watch Da Birdie said:
After all is said and done, Donkey Kong really was the worst-treated multi-game franchise. :(
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Really? At least DK has 2 characters.
 
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Moonlight

Banned
Kinsei said:
I guess that's true, but the "main" version of that character seems to be getting all the marketing. I would like to have a female Villager amiibo (Since I'm a girl and all of my villagers have been girls), but I don't think that will happen until the next Animal Crossing game comes out.
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I don't disagree, actually. I think I'd love to have a female Robin Amiibo myself, and I doubt that'll happen because male Robin is the default character. I just think I can settle for being satisfied at what the parity situation looks right now, and hope that the next game does it even better.
 
Spainkiller

Spainkiller

the man who sold the world
Kouichi said:
Was he just speculating on the whole 3DS/Wii U connectivity tidbit after seeing them or does he really know?
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He's sure there is connectivity in some way and after seeing the remaining character models he put one and two together. Again: he's sure about the characters but speculating about connectivity being the key to unlocking them.
 
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Choppasmith

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Speedwagon said:
1. Wii Fit Trainer (Love the play-style.)
2. Palutena (Best newcomer we could've hoped for from Uprising.)
3. Pac-Man (Sakurai made him awesome.)
4. Rock Man (He's the most fun to play as so far in the demo.)
5. Dark Pit (He doesn't use the Dark Pit Staff in his regular move-set, but he's still from my favorite game and I don't hate him.)
6. Duck Hunt (Didn't think I would like him, but he looks crazy.)
7. Reflet (Don't play FE, but he looks interesting.)
8. Mii Fighter (No doubt I'll being using it a lot with three different move-sets, but no "With Anyone" online gives them less priority.)
9. Shulk (Looks strong, but not my style.)
10. Lucina (I like Marth.)
11. Murabito (Played as him in the demo, but haven't gotten the hang of him.)
12. Gekkouga (I liked him a lot when he was first revealed, but Lizardon looks like the better Pokemon now with his changes.)
13. Bowser Jr. (Haven't seen much of him.)
14. Little Mac (Poor recovery; not my style.)
15. Rosetta & Chiko (Not a fan of multiple-character characters.)
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-_- You forgot Bowser Jr is Koopa Jr and Dark Pit should be Black Pit, if you know... you want to go all out.

Anyway, Talking about Mains and Newcomers. Link's always been my Main since 64, so he's going to be the first one I use as I get comfortable with the controls. I also loved playing Dedede in Brawl, so he's definitely going to be one of the first I play after him.

Newcomers I'm excited for:

Mega Man: It sounds like he might be really tricky but I HAVE to see how he feels. Love Mega Man!

Palutena: Love Uprising, mostly excited for her custom moveset.

Shulk: Love Xenoblade and sounds like he's a great character worth maining.

Duck Hunt Dog: Looks adorable. I only wish the ESRB leak didn't happen so that we'd be still be reeling from the shock and be super excited right now.

Bowser Jr.: Will probably play as Ludwig

Also just wondering some things. I really took my time catching up in this thread, but does anyone know:

-Dark Pit's color schemes?
-If Luigi's "second green" alt was really a fluke by Famitsu and if so what his real color was.
-What does Lucina's Final Smash look like?
-Are there unlockable costumes?
 
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Josephl64

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Azure J said:
Y'all need to chill. I don't see how any of those are bad choices with and without the context of their move sets.

RosaLuma represents the highest point in the already legendary Mario series to date, gives some female player character diversity to the roster and comes with the unique Stand mechanics.

Greninja's
the bestest starter
a poster child of Pokemon X/Y and comes with a slew of well realized actions and animations while fitting it's theme admirably.

Wii Fit Trainer fits Sakurai's quirky character quota and fits in the roster the same way that Mr. Game & Watch or R.O.B. do by highlighting the alternative or expanded universe of Nintendo's development history and hardware.

Miis were GUARANTEED to be in this both for what they mean in a similar light to Wii Fit Trainer, and for being the first real attempts at making player avatars a reality in Smash. Also, contrary to what a lot of people feel about them on message boards, Miis are one of the most iconic things about Nintendo in the last two generations.

Fire Emblem is a big boy franchise now. Awakening's popularity allows it to have a resurgence among public opinion and as such, Nintendo's going to take full advantage of this. That said, Robin was an excellent addition and way better than the large majority of characters who were being championed for getting FE up to the three character bracket. By finally focusing on game play aspects of FE and playing the character up as more than "Lord with Sword", Robin was automatically the best thing to happen as a newcomer from the franchise. Lucina was a coincidental surprise that appeals to the same group and while I myself have no love for her over the much better Robin, the fans of Awakening got something a little extra and that's cool.

Dark Pit is about the "worst" it gets and even he makes sense given that he's popular, his move set is different enough from Pit's and it still adds more than it "takes away" in the eyes of people who are concerned about their picks who had no work done on them being drowned out by the inclusions of bonus psuedo clones that exist because "hey we have values and assets we can play with, wanna give more characters to people?"

Admittedly, I wish if Viridi or Medusa had been cloned off of Palutena over getting Dark Pit though just because I'd love more takes on Palutena's move set. If she's "tanky offense", I'd love to have seen glass cannon.

As a side note since I'm feeling particularly rant-y and catty, this notion that certain franchises shouldn't have X many reps or X many reps more than Y franchise is dumb as fuck SmashGAF.



Haha, I defintely remember retweeting that the moment Bowser Jr got in with Koopaling alts confirmed.
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I would disagree with you about Robin since I found the avatar to be detrimental to Kakusei, it is a nice change for what we see from the series. I am perplexed as to why they haven't used a magic user(latest game maybe Sallya?) or anybody else with a different weapon.

Nevertheless it is nice to see a brand new style of character from FE over what we had in the past.
 
P

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
OricWindstar said:
Alrighty, how is everyone taking the roster? I've been gone for a few hours and feel like I may have missed some meltdowns.
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Very positive. Losing Snake hurts but aside from that I'm very happy with the new roster.
 
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Spinluck

Member
Starphoenix said:
Anyways, now that we know the roster, here's my grade:

Grade: 9/10, A

Pros:

- Love the amount of surprises in this roster. Wii Fit Trainer, Pac-Man, Robin, Rosalina and Luma, Duck Hunt Dog, Villager, Shulk and Koopa Kid Clown Car gang (to a lesser degree); all of these are characters no one really expected yet play so uniquely from other fighters in the game.

- Mega Man. Really, just look at how much Sakurai has invested in encapsulating the entire history of this character. One could make a case he did a better job with Mega Man than some of the other Nintendo series in the game.

- All of the returning veterans have new nuances that make them feel fresh. Granted, some more so than others, but enough to make it feel like you're relearning the characters all over again.

- Glad Sonic the Hedgehog returned. Wouldn't have felt complete having a game with Mega Man and Pac-Man but no Sonic the Hedgehog. The perfect third party trifecta.

- Also glad R.O.B is back. Go kick a rock all of you that wanted him cut.


Cons:

- Not a fan of losing Ice Climbers. Really liked them in Brawl and hate seeing them potentially get the boot. Lucas is also a tad disappointing, but I have less attachment to him than say Ness.

- Really wanted Mewtwo back, but I'll wait until the Wii U version is released to completely bury him.
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I always knew you Broncos fans were good people.
 
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Griss

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Majukun said:
he ruled him out several times actually
it has only been "teased" in the minds of ridley fans..for everyone else,he was ruled out as a fighter years ago and was disconfirmed for smash 4 since the direct.
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When was he ruled out? Fuck, if he was I missed it, and feel stupid.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

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Spork4000 said:
I mean even if you think about it as third party advertising. Twin Snakes wasn't even out when Brawl started development, so it really made sense after Nintendo and koonami made this partnership. Also Pac-Man and Sonic have games coming to Nintendo platforms, Megaman is dead, but he's always been associated with Nintendo, Snake has been exclusive to competitor platforms for a decade minus a single portable game.
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Still the length in time from TRS and brawl was pretty big. Plus brawl even had mgs4 material In it. Which Nintendo knew they weren't getting. Which is why I feel the history angle everyone uses for the characters just doesn't apply to snake nor his releases. It was more than sakurai who could approve that inclusion and they did.
 
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Aaronrules380

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BassForever said:
I extremely dislike Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt, and Falcondorf

I'm indifferent to Mii Fighters, Little Mac, Rosalina, Villager, Palutena, and Bowser Jr

I'm cool with Dr Mario, Lucina, and Dark Pit as new clones

I'm excited for Mega Man, Pac Man, Greninja, Robin, Shulk

I'm very upset that Ice Climbers and Mewtwo are gone/still gone, and I'm disappointed Lucas and Wolf didn't return either.

The newcomer list as a whole does less for me then Brawl's did, so I think it's worse
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Falcondorf isn't new. That's more a strike against melee tbh. Wii Fit Trainer honestly did deserve the slot (more than Ridley tbh given that her game did more than any metroid ever did). Duck Hunt Dog is honestly a pick in this game than Ice Climbers was in melee (seriously, did anyone even like the Ice Climbers game)? I agree that I'd like Mewtwo back and less cuts. And pretty much all the biggest characters were already in.

Also, curious about how many people who complained about this also said the exact same things about Brawl and just got used to that after a while
 
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ToraShiro

NISA
Kinsei said:
DK only has two characters despite the series being in every Smash and every other major Nintendo franchise has at least three characters (Not counting clones).
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Did not even think of this, but true (huge DK fan). Maybe Japan still salty over Country?

I wish they could have at least added Cranky again so we could have him host their Twitter account again...
 
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foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
DooD1234 said:
Guys, I just want to ask. Are we almost at thread 17 despite the fact this was made like what yesterday? God damn you guys are going for the world record of burning through new threads or something. What were you guys talking about? I left this thread finished reading at page 24 and you guys are at page 273 already. I know there was another thread for Smash 3ds and another for a retail copy getting leaked. Geez I wonder how many threads we will have once the smash 3ds and wii u is out worldwide.
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We kicked this thread's ass.
 
I

Incendiary

Banned
SpinDasher said:
There is no point in arguing this.

Clearly everyone values each character differently.
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Arguments about the "most deserving" characters always end up as "I think this franchise/character is more important to Nintendo's history than this other character." It's all about each individual's perception.
 
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Karsticles

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MrSaturn99 said:
He reminds me of Berordn's old avatar.



You don't like Bowser Jr./the Koopalings?
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They're too cutesy for my usual tastes, though I think the moveset is fantastic.

Even with all my complaining, I think I'll end up maining one of these five:
Bowser
Ganondorf
Palutena
Samus
Charizard

That's order of most likely to least likely. Clearly, I'm not starved for options, so I'll be happy once I get the game. I just would have liked more than 1 new character to be interested in. I know my tastes are eclectic, though.
 
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Red Arremer

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Majukun said:
he ruled him out several times actually
it has only been "teased" in the minds of ridley fans..for everyone else,he was ruled out as a fighter years ago and was disconfirmed for smash 4 since the direct.
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Yeah, just like he ruled out Villager and Little Mac as fighters.
Also, I would like to see your source. The only time Sakurai said anything about Ridley as playable character was when he was asked about it by a magazine (was it Nintendo Power?), and said that "he'd have to be really slow" or something. He never said "it's impossible".
 
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