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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI

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Kinsei

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New topic: Who do you want in the next Smash Bros.

Yes, it's hella early, but somebody has to bite the bullet and ask it. Or should the question be saved for when the DLC is confirmed?

Dixie
Ridley
Ganondorf (the REAL Ganondorf, not Fakedorf)

The same three I've wanted in ever since Melee.
 

Drago

Member
New topic: Who do you want in the next Smash Bros.

Yes, it's hella early, but somebody has to bite the bullet and ask it. Or should the question be saved for when the DLC is confirmed?
Chibi-Robo, now and forever

if you're asking for characters with a real chance, Inkling and maybe Captain Toad
 

munchie64

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New topic: Who do you want in the next Smash Bros.

Yes, it's hella early, but somebody has to bite the bullet and ask it. Or should the question be saved for when the DLC is confirmed?
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Zomba13

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With Ness seemingly having Lucas' moves as customs, it seems weird they didn't try and at least make Lucas an alt skin for Ness with a name and sounds and his stick.

It's probably an easier costume that bowser jr because they could use exactly the same model skeleton and animations, they're basically just a head change

I don't get some of the alt/clone character stuff. Like, Alph becomes an alt costume (unique model and sounds) but Dark Pit becomes a clone character while both have the same moves (apparently, though DP has a new FS). The Koopalings are alts for Bowser jr while Lucina is a clone character of Marth.

And if Ness really does have some Lucas moves as alts (which pleases me in a way though Lucas was all bout that up-smash) why can't he be an alt costume?
 
Dixie
Ridley
Ganondorf (the REAL Ganoindorf, not Fakedorf)

The same three I've wanted in ever since Melee.

So wait, are those really the only characters you care about? Because no wonder you're disappointed if you have such a narrow focus. Seriously, there are tons of great characters from smaller Nintendo franchises.
 

nerdbot

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New topic: Who do you want in the next Smash Bros.

Yes, it's hella early, but somebody has to bite the bullet and ask it. Or should the question be saved for when the DLC is confirmed?

Chibi-Robo, a Rhythm Heaven guy, Ridley so we can finally end the tears, Ice Climbers/Lucas/Mewtwo/Wolf, Bandana Dee, Captain Toad, Inkling
 

JoeInky

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I'm stream the demo in like 10 minutes.

I believe someone wanted you to try spamming the air dodge from high up as quick as you can so they could see how quickly you can do it.


Also it would be helpful if you could put CPUs up to level 9 and do mario's fair (or link's dair if you find it easier) on grounded opponents to show the insta teching meteor ridiculousness.
 

Kinsei

Banned
So wait, are those really the only characters you care about? Because no wonder you're disappointed if you have such a narrow focus. Seriously, there are tons of great characters from smaller Nintendo franchises.

Yes. I wouldn't be happy if none of them were in the game.

I lucked out and both Diddy and Wolf were in Brawl. Every Smash so far has had at least one character that I wanted, so I was expecting Smash 4 to follow the trend.
 

Jawmuncher

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So wait, are those really the only characters you care about? Because no wonder you're disappointed if you have such a narrow focus. Seriously, there are tons of great characters from smaller Nintendo franchises.

At the same time look at all the people who wanted Takamaru. Smaller game nothing but a assist trophy. Its gonna be a dissapoint noatter how broad you go.

Literally going "I want new Nintendo characters" is the only way to end up 100% pleased. Unless you luck out or lie to yourself .
 
So if Lucas and Ice Climbers DON'T show up as trophies when Wolf and Pokemon Trainer did does that more or less confirm they'll be added to the game later?
 
New topic: Who do you want in the next Smash Bros.

Yes, it's hella early, but somebody has to bite the bullet and ask it. Or should the question be saved for when the DLC is confirmed?

Isaac (Golden Sun)
King K. Rool
Lyn (Fire Emblem)
Wolf
Takamaru
Andy (Advance Wars)
Ganondorf (swords & magic)
Waluigi
 

Masked Man

I said wow
If Sakurai gets to sign your copy at the Press Start concert, tell him us Mother fans love what the team did with that stage!

then slap him on the wrist for cutting lucas :p

I definitely will!
And I'll be sure to give him a piece of our collective mind regarding Lucas. ;)

Dungeon Man shows up in magicant?

Truly
second
best stage confirmed.

I KNOW. Magicant is basically just one big Mother series party and it's wonderful.

I know the roster is incredible when I want to main like 25% of the roster, and thoroughly explore the rest. I'm split between wanting to master Bowser Jr., Shulk, Greninja, Duck Hunt, Robin, Palutena, Bowser, Mr. Game & Watch, Captain Falcon, etc. SO MANY CHOICES. And I love all of the characters on some level.

I completely agree! There are so many characters I'm just itching to spend a lot of time with--and this is coming from someone who's already played the retail game! Really looking forward to finally getting my hands on a copy. :D

Fuck it, I'm just gonna put it out there:

(And I'm not saying this to troll fans or keep the hype up or whatever.)

I have a source who has been right about previous leaks and has worked on the European localization of the game. He says he has definitely seen moving models of Dixie, Ridley, Chorus Men and Mewtwo in the game and he's still confident that these four characters can be unlocked by linking the 3DS version to the Wii U version.

I'll take you at your word, then. I'm not a huge Ridley supporter or anything, but I love the Rhythm Heaven series, and the idea of the Chorus Kids in Smash is really charming, so I'm hoping this comes to fruition! :D


All of the feels... ;_______;

I used the Neorice's art to do this...

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Now I want SSB 2D

This is perfect! Thank you, Neorice, for creating such beautiful sprites, and thank you, Nezzhil, for putting this together!
 
Yes. I wanted one of them in this game.

I wanted them too. But it's not sakurai's fault if you have tunnel vision and can't appreciate anything that you didn't explicitly ask for. Especially if you limited yourself so much.

Honestly, never tell yourself a character HAS to get in, or WILL DEFINITELY get in. Or even DESERVES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE TO GET IN. Doing stuff like that will only lead to disappointment. If you keep an open mind, right or wrong you'll be happy. If you convince yourself something is going to happen, then best case scenario you get nothing out of it, but lose nothing either
 

Jawmuncher

Member
So if Lucas and Ice Climbers DON'T show up as trophies when Wolf and Pokemon Trainer did does that more or less confirm they'll be added to the game later?

Just adds them to the realm of possibility .
A realm everyone can have fun in.
Snake isn't a trophy, they bothered to go through the work to put Rayman as a trophy.
Snake must be coming back.
 
Well, they're mostly kids, what do you expect?

Their favourite character isn't in so they're throwing fits.

I say that as a Ridley/K.Rool/Isaac/Dixie/Mewtwo supporter.

and then you have people who clearly not kids and are already making plans for a "Project R".

I mean, best just to ignore it, but just holy shit lol
 
Just got back from work, last I saw on the streams was somebody playing through classic mode as Duck Hunt*. What did I miss? All I know is the ESRB leak had the full roster/stage selection but somebody's claiming Mewtwo/Dixie/Ridley/Chorus Men were held off as a weird 3DS/Wii U transfer unlock thing. Is there anything like a list of AT's or remixes or other cool things like smash run enemies I can read up about?



*Duck Hunt looks fucking awesome and it's depressing he's going to be this game's ROB in relation to people pinning roster disappointments on him.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
So who actually got all or most of the characters that they wanted? I only got 2 (Bowser jr and Shulk) but I really wanted Ridley, Mewtwo, a new DK rep and a Ganondorf that isn't a clone as well. I'm a little disappointed honestly, I'm still hyped for the game and characters like Duck Hunt and Little Mac look like a ton of fun, but some of the character choices are baffling, like 3 KI characters with one being a straight clone, 4 FE characters with one being a straight clone, no new DK character despite the franchise seeing a massive revival with DKCR and lastly Dr. Mario coming back over Mewtwo.
Like I said, I'm still hyped for the game and this isn't a "this game sucks" or "fuck Sakurai" post, I'm just a little disappointed and confused with some of the choices for the roster

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=127060814&postcount=17123

just scratch Advance Wars off the list since someone spotted it as assist trophy :)
 

EulaCapra

Member
With Ness seemingly having Lucas' moves as customs, it seems weird they didn't try and at least make Lucas an alt skin for Ness with a name and sounds and his stick.

It's probably an easier costume that bowser jr because they could use exactly the same model skeleton and animations, they're basically just a head change
Wait, Ness has Lucas PK Freeze as custom? Where was this confirmed? I wanna see it.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Just got back from work, last I saw on the streams was somebody playing through classic mode as Duck Hunt*. What did I miss? All I know is the ESRB leak had the full roster/stage selection but somebody's claiming Mewtwo/Dixie/Ridley/Chorus Men were held off as a weird 3DS/Wii U transfer unlock thing. Is there anything like a list of AT's or remixes or other cool things like smash run enemies I can read up about?



*Duck Hunt looks fucking awesome and it's depressing he's going to be this game's ROB in relation to people pinning roster disappointments on him.
I think Karate Joe is an AT. As for that rumor, while I'm sure there will be DLC, I'm pretty sure nobody knows about who they could be right now. It's just too soon.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I really hope by the next Smash, there's SOMEONE else from Yoshi they could add. Seriously. I'd even settle for Yarn Yoshi.

After seeing Duck Hunt Dog, I want more NES-revival characters. Urban Champion would be cool as a really traditional fighter.

If Impa continues to get more roles after her upgrade in SS and Hyrule Warriors, I want her too.

And Dixie, if we get another DKCR before the next Smash.

Really though, I'm excited to see what new characters Nintendo creates in the next 8 years.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
*Duck Hunt looks fucking awesome and it's depressing he's going to be this game's ROB in relation to people pinning roster disappointments on him.

Right now, Dark Pit and Dr. Mario are getting heats. There are only few people that are still hating on Duck Hunt.

Also, what's this I heard about Wario's shoulder bash not being his forward smash anymore? Is it true? -_-

It seem to be true.
 

roknin

Member
I know the roster is incredible when I want to main like 25% of the roster, and thoroughly explore the rest. I'm split between wanting to master Bowser Jr., Shulk, Greninja, Duck Hunt, Robin, Palutena, Bowser, Mr. Game & Watch, Captain Falcon, etc. SO MANY CHOICES. And I love all of the characters on some level.

This is seriously my problem, though right now I'm thinking Lucina will be my main.

No idea how long I've wanted a female FE Sword rep.

Samus... it was a good run T^T

(who am I kidding I'm still going to play her and the other 30 characters I want to play lol)
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I really hope by the next Smash, there's SOMEONE else from Yoshi they could add. Seriously. I'd even settle for Yarn Yoshi.

After seeing Duck Hunt Dog, I want more NES-revival characters. Urban Champion would be cool as a really traditional fighter.

If Impa continues to get more roles after her upgrade in SS and Hyrule Warriors, I want her too.

And Dixie, if we get another DKCR before the next Smash.

Really though, I'm excited to see what new characters Nintendo creates in the next 8 years.
You act as if DLC doesn't exist, & that Nintendo isn't going balls-deep into it.
 
Just got back from work, last I saw on the streams was somebody playing through classic mode as Duck Hunt*. What did I miss? All I know is the ESRB leak had the full roster/stage selection but somebody's claiming Mewtwo/Dixie/Ridley/Chorus Men were held off as a weird 3DS/Wii U transfer unlock thing. Is there anything like a list of AT's or remixes or other cool things like smash run enemies I can read up about?



*Duck Hunt looks fucking awesome and it's depressing he's going to be this game's ROB in relation to people pinning roster disappointments on him.

Duck Hunt looks legitimately cool, he's actually based on the whole NES light-gun genre. He's a symbol of Nintendo's history, just like R.O.B.

If anyone should be hated, it's the literal recolor of a character, Dark Pit.
 

Kinsei

Banned
I wanted them too. But it's not sakurai's fault if you have tunnel vision and can't appreciate anything that you didn't explicitly ask for. Especially if you limited yourself so much.

Honestly, never tell yourself a character HAS to get in, or WILL DEFINITELY get in. Or even DESERVES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE TO GET IN. Doing stuff like that will only lead to disappointment. If you keep an open mind, right or wrong you'll be happy. If you convince yourself something is going to happen, then best case scenario you get nothing out of it, but lose nothing either

Really, you consider that narrow? I think wanting the most likely characters from 3 of Nintendo's biggest franchises would be considered throwing out a wide net.

Anyways, yes A character I want has to get in for me to like the roster because, why should I care about the newcomers if I don't like them?
 
Just got caught up on everything since last night's Lucina reveal.

So the final (for now?) roster is the ESRB leak, which is not a surprise but is a bit of a bummer simply because there's nothing else to be surprised by. Still, this roster is incredible and easily the best Smash roster ever... hell, it's the best fighting game roster ever! I'm incredibly happy with what we have. Sakurai and his team really delivered and then some... 49/51 characters, god damn. Remember when so many of us were worried that Sakurai's early comments meant that we might be getting a roster that was smaller than Brawl's (or at least no bigger)? Heh.

I still have a feeling there could be DLC down the line, or maybe a few more characters held back for the Wii U version's release that will be unlocked in both versions when Smash Wii U comes out. Of course this could just be wishful thinking and totally wrong, and if so, that's fine. Like I said, this roster is amazing.

Personally my only real issues with the roster are the Ice Climbers and Lucas being cut and no Chorus Kids, and I can't even be that mad about the Chorus Kids/any RH rep because it was Gematsu that gave me the idea in the first place and made me realize a RH rep might actually happen. I don't care at all about Ridley or Wolf, personally, but Ridley and Wolf fans are making it incredibly difficult for me to feel bad for them since so many of them are braying about how "the roster is embarrassing/horrible/lazy." It's a massive 49/51-character roster but it's embarrassing because two characters didn't make the cut? Get outta here with that nonsense. Yeah, I got Mega Man, but I wouldn't be calling this roster trash if he wasn't in it. Perspective, people.

Bowser Jr. looks like a ton of fun to play, and I'm not even a fan of the character... and holy shit, those alts and Final Smash. Great! Duck Hunt Dog's awesomeness speaks for itself, and I can't even believe how fucking cool his move set, Final Smash, and overall inclusion are.

Really glad Jigglypuff still has Puff Up as her FS; it was always one of my favorites. Falco's still being the Landmaster still sucks a lot, especially considering Dark Pit and Dr. Mario have new(ish) Final Smashes. Come to think of it, have we confirmed Ness's FS yet? Is it still PK Starstorm?

The stage roster has also proven to be pretty great, if a bit disappointing. No new Metroid or DK stage in the 3DS version sucks, but it looks like the Game Boy stage turned out to be a retro Kirby's Dream Land stage, so I guess that counts as a new Kirby stage! But honestly, SNES F-Zero and FUCKING MAGICANT HELL YES are so hype that it's hard to be too disappointed in the stages. I really, REALLY hope Magicant is in the Wii U version as well (along with Onett from Melee)!

The only real crushing disappointment about Smash 3DS for me is finding out that Smash Run isn't online. Whether we should have expected that or not, I can't see myself playing it maybe ever if it's local-only. Which is a shame, because it's honestly really fun... but it'd get old fast against only CPUs, and I don't play 3DS games with other people locally often enough to see that as a seriously viable option. What a bummer.

But honestly, other than that, Smash 3DS as a whole has come together into an incredibly impressive effort by Sakurai and his team (no surprise there) and I couldn't be more hyped for October 3rd. Now we look ahead to Smash Wii U and all the unique content it has to offer, and I'm going to keep some small hope alive for the Chorus Kids until the Wii U version is out and we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that no characters were held back to hype it.

The hype has been tons of fun, SmashGAF; the overwhelmingly immature negativity and salt has not (you know who you are), but I suppose you're going to get some of that anywhere there are Smash fans. Thankfully, I'm happy to say those with a positive attitude and reasonable outlook/expectations seem to handily outweigh those with a terrible attitude/Sakurai hate streak here, which is what makes this such a fun community to be a part of.

Onward and upward to October 3rd and Smash Wii U, all!
 
So assuming Isaac is truly cut from the assist trophy list and isn't even a regular trophy, can someone explain the logic of keeping Saki from Sin & Punishment as an assist but not Isaac?
 
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