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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI

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Axass

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That's mostly what annoyed me, but also I've heard that certain mods/posters aren't happy with how many threads there have been for Smash in the last year plus. Especially when I commented and it seemed like her complaint was most people were posting in this one thread and not the OT, rather than there being seven active threads (all for different things).

We are in a forum, making threads is bad? If they keep showing in the first page it means people care about those games (Smash in this case) and want to discuss them, no? Who are we inconveniencing? o_O
 

ffdgh

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I think all the Pokemon this time around look closer to their art.

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Pikachu especially does.

Well would you look at that lol. Only one that's slightly off is charizard.
 

rekameohs

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Because Sakurai apparently really fucking loves FLUDD and wants us to love just as much. If they did get rid of FLUDD and gave mario back is old moveset, then no one would defend Doc.
By that same token, if Dark Pit used Pit's Brawl moveset, I don't think people would be as salty, but he just copied Pit's SSB4 moveset again.
 
So who actually wanted pitoo as a character? like seriously said "oh man dark pit would be a cool edition to the roster, sakurai and the team should add him!"

because if it was you I will find you and hurt you

I'm cool with the roster in general but his addition just irks me slightly
 

Nanashrew

Banned
I wasn't awake but how active were those 7 threads. I realize the whole, new threads for new news but most of the time those other threads die out super fast and move back to the super active thread like here.

I remember the TLOU threads and having 3-4 active ones on the front page for days in a row. I don't see any of the smash threads on the front page anymore except this one.
 

Revven

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Is it just me or does anyone else tune out when people use 'deserving' or 'iconic' or 'recolor' when people are talking about which characters they personally think should be in Smash?

You're not alone. It's why I stopped caring about roster discussion/speculation this time around. Brawl's pre-release roster discussion/speculation was just as toxic.

I think the toxicity is because of how young the community tends to lean so you have these really extreme views/opinions on how characters are chosen in the minds of the players/fans. It's pretty bad. I'm not sure if anything could be done to quell it but yeah... it's getting worse and worse as more Smash games release.

People have this ideal roster in their heads -- that is, they do all this "math" or"science" (it's almost obsessive in some instances...) for the most logical roster for Sakurai to pick and after all their hard "research" and reasoning they don't get the roster they had in their head. So they get frustrated and the only reasons that can explain why the 'ideal roster' didn't become reality is because "___ character took this one's spot!" or "____ this character didn't deserve to get in!"

If it doesn't fit the logic pattern the community sets themselves up as -- even when Sakurai hasn't even had any pattern for anything he's done with his rosters (aside from maybe retro character inclusions) -- then the roster is disappointing and/or horrible.
 

Spainkiller

the man who sold the world
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#BELIEVE!

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Oh, man, what have I done? I could've known that it would get picked up like this, but man.

I really want this to be true, but at the same time I'm not sure I want to support that username when my old roommate who I was good buds with is Spanish.

My handle shouldn't be read as 'Spain Killer' but as 'S Painkiller'.

'Spainkiller' is a nickname that my friends gave me a long, long time ago :) I'm half Spanish myself.
 
In Smash discussions, 'deserving' is synonymous with personal like or dislike.

Exactly why I tune it out. It's trying to argue that your personal preference for the characters makes them more well, deserving than others. I mean, I really think Urban Champion Fighter or Gumshoe could make interesting characters, but I'd be hard pressed to argue they're more deserving than any the other characters in the game.
 
We are in a forum, making threads is bad? If they keep showing in the first page it means people care about those games (Smash in this case) and want to discuss them, no? Who are we inconveniencing? o_O
Seriously.. the rule itself is new news, new thread. I guess having many smash threads will alienate 2 thirds of the board while other games 1/3rd ;)
 

I'M FINISHED!

Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
The weird thing about Mewtwo is that I like him a lot as a character, but his moveset in Melee was very disappointing, not to mention too floaty in a game where speed was everything. If Spainkiller is right then I hope he gets a serious revamp.

The moves themselves were awesome. The real problem was Mewtwo's floatiness and lack of killing power. Buff some moves and sink that sucker and it will all be golden.
 
Because Dark Pit is a great, sympathetic character and I suspect most (not all) of the people who are so salty about him have not played Kid Icarus: Uprising or didn't like it. He's really cool in Uprising and it's made very clear that he's much more than just a mirror image of Pit.


I can't help but laugh at all these people being so salty about Dark Pit while they hype up Dr. Mario and lament Wolf's being cut in the same breath. Dr. Mario is literally Mario wearing a doctor's coat and is an actual, literal clone in every sense of the word. Dr. Mario is just getting a dumb pass because of his Melee alumni status and people are simply salty about Dark Pit in the exact same way they were salty about Wolf in Brawl. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I don't know exactly what Dark Pit's FS is, but I read that it utilizes his staff.

I've beat the game, several times and did the square challenges. I love it to pieces and it's one of my favourite 3DS games. I love the storytelling in it, I love the characters in it.
But Dark Pit is the worst character of the whole game, by a long mile. He is derivative, his atrocious, has the charisma of a wooden plank (that stands out even more because ALL the rest of the characters are much better than him), and only worked as a joke of the typical dark version of characters in games and cartoons, that try to be edgy to 12-15 year olds.

So I dont know why are you "laughing" so much to a lie you have just invented.
Do you want me and other people that criticise him to take a photo of the game to show you more prove?

Most people don't see him cool or anything like that, we know what up with those type of characters. If you think he is cool, good for you, but let the rest us complain what a shitty addition he is to the roster.
His addition married with the absence of less "clony" characters and more important than him, seriously bring the good roster that we got down.
 

Moonlight

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Exactly why I tune it out. It's trying to argue that your personal preference for the characters makes them more well, deserving than others. I mean, I really think Urban Champion Fighter or Gumshoe could make interesting characters, but I'd be hard pressed to argue they're more deserving than any the other characters in the game.
Fire Emblem deserves to have like three more characters because it's the best Nintendo franchise
 
We had a 2.5 page discussion on who was the best neighbor in the AC series. Only one guy mentioned anything that went beyond that.
I remember it going on further than that though I might be inadvertently conflating different talks about Isabelle/whatever since we've had too many OT's, but my overall point is there's been a ton of times where I haven't felt like posting in these threads since they get stupidly off topic and even borderline NSFW when we're stuck in a slow news period and members grow restless. I can see why the mods have grown more than a bit annoyed at these threads after we've had enough to reach 16 in the space of two years.
 
Lucina won't get cut. IS won't allow it. Mark my words.

Edit: Bowser jr...? Wat. Why would anyone think that lol.

i dont actually want those guys to be cut my reasoning for bowser jr. is based on how much work it might take to bring him back to the next generation of consoles its not like i hate him or anything im just basing this on the amount of work it might take so its all just speculation from me.

Also i dont want lucina cut im hoping in the next game she gets a few more moves changes that involve the children in some way shape or form as well as getting a different fs
 

Aexact

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So who actually wanted pitoo as a character? like seriously said "oh man dark pit would be a cool edition to the roster, sakurai and the team should add him!"

because if it was you I will find you and hurt you

I'm cool with the roster in general but his addition just irks me slightly
Well, I hear he's popular in Japan and he looks easy to make. Easy request to fulfill.
 

rawktapus

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Alph. Uses Rock Pikmin instead of White and Purples. There you go, clone made.

I personally don't see how Rock Pikmin would differ at all from Purple Pikmin, both hit hard and Purple Pikmin don't stick to enemies in Smash, or daze them. They function very similar to Rock piikmin already. Plus, even if they DO have Rock Pikmin, it could actually part of Olimar's custom moves, since that's one of the only things I can think of giving him for his neutral B special. Dark Pit has much more options available to him as a seperate clone.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
That's mostly what annoyed me, but also I've heard that certain mods/posters aren't happy with how many threads there have been for Smash in the last year plus. Especially when I commented and it seemed like her complaint was most people were posting in this one thread and not the OT, rather than there being seven active threads (all for different things).

Well, we don't really want to pull TLOU-GAF where we had to made too many threads on almost everything. It's better to keep everything in couple of threads. There is someone that are considering to make screenshot OT for Smash 3DS. I'm not sure how Aeana would feel about that. If she have problem with it then she should come forward to us rather than making comments on her twitter.

Personally, I think she should have handle this situation better than making a mock out about it.
 
The differences are minimal but make a world of difference. Look how much cuter she got! She no longer has that idle expression of a fat cat trying to breathe.
I'm guessing The Pokémon Company, having a lot of creative control over how their characters are used, wanted them to (finally) bring her design more in line with her updated look, as with Pikachu and his ever-changing design.

I loved Jiggly' anyway, but I am so thankful they redesigned her (and lots of the other vets). Her old Smash design didn't even really look like a Jigglypuff in hindsight. Jigglypuff and Sonic look much more like themselves this time around.
 
Awesome stuff. Glad Jiggly looks better than she was in Brawl (although this would probably be clearer in the hands of a better player), although I was kinda disappointed that she didn't use a Rest. I really need to know if that's back to its' former glory. Brawl's Rest was possibly the most flaccid move in the entire game.
Heard Rest is at least better than Brawl, but not quite Melee level.
 

Thorakai

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That's mostly what annoyed me, but also I've heard that certain mods/posters aren't happy with how many threads there have been for Smash in the last year plus. Especially when I commented and it seemed like her complaint was most people were posting in this one thread and not the OT, rather than there being seven active threads (all for different things).

Really though, this thread should have just stuck to community long ago. The conversations that often took place were basically community-type discussions. Any interesting POTD would have just warranted new threads.
 

random25

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Opinion on Dark Pit:

If people liked using Pit in Smash, I think he won't be scrutinized as much and a lot will love the addition. Let's give Dark Pit a fair chance guys.
 
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