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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Miiverse Update Thread XVI

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Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Does Duck Hunt Dog have some sort of laugh attack? I hope so...
 
Don't even bother, it's not just ludicrous, it's patently incorrect. Fox and Wolf's specials share a HELL of a lot more in common, animation and performance wise, than that poorly-thought-out analogy EVER did.

Except not really? You have to completely break down Fox's and Wolf's specials to their utter basics to make them similar, just like I did with Link's and Samus'.
And to top it off, Samus and Link share more normals than Fox and Wolf do!
 

Toad.T

Banned
Answering the question I posed earlier, here's how I see future Smash Bros titles. You probably won't agree with them, but that's what makes discussions fun!

Wii U/Wii Z: Dairantou Smash Brothers Gaiden (Super Smash Bros: Another Round):

"First, worlds clashed. Then universes collided. Now, dimensions shall break."

As said in the title, this is more of a spinoff of Smash Bros. How so? Well, instead of just being Nintendo VS Nintendo (+Sonic/Pacman/Megaman) It's now Nintendo VS the world. Two characters from each of the main Nintendo franchises VS two representatives from each company, as well as the companies they've absorbed.

Example list:

Nintendo side:
Mario + Bowser
DK + K.Rool
Link + Zelda/Shiek
Pikachu + Jigglypuff
Kirby + Meta Knight
Samus + Ridley
Pit + Palutena
Ness + Ninten
Marth + Robin
Fox + Krystal
Falcon + Black Shadow
Mr. G&W + ROB
24 1st party fighters.

3rd Parties:
Sega (Sonic + Bayonetta)
Capcom (Mega Man + Ryu)
Konami (Simon Belmont + Snake)
Namco (Pac-Man + Heihachi/Klonoa)
Square (Cloud + Laura Croft)
Activision (Crash Bandicoot + Pitfall Harry)
Ubisoft (Rayman + Ezio)
Atlus (Jack Frost + Kwirk)
Taito (Bub + Space Invader)
Enix (Slime + Marina)
Hudson (Bomberman + Bonk)
Bandai (Baten Katos rep + Tamogotchi)

Sakurai says that he wants to make the ultimate character fighter, but that shouldn't stop Smash from being overrun with 3rd party fighters. So why not separate it?

New 3DS/Wii Z: New Dairantou Smash Brothers for 3DS/Wii Z

More of a SF-style update. There's not many fighters left to add without being silly (And did you see the list above? Tamagotchi? Pitfall Harry? Kwirk the Amazing Tomato?) so a roster update should be necessary.

Example List:

Additions: K.Rool, Ridley, Ninten, Krystal, Inkling, Mike Jones.
Put back in: Lucas, Ice Climbers, Wolf, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Roy, Pichu.
Removal (Due to other game being devoted to them): Sonic, Pac-man, Mega Man.

Essentially, make the 3rd party version be more casual oriented, while the "New" version gets updates revolving around pro player's concerns. That way, everyone's happy.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.

I think the official thread will be used more when the game actually launches in 14 hours (!)

I know that's where I'll be posting.
 

jnWake

Member
Magicant has to be one of the best stages in the series. Between the music and the gameplay in the background it almost seems like a sendoff to the Mother series. It actually made me sad to watch the footage.
 
Since a lot of people seem to be upset about the cuts lets see who people would want to be cut. Assuming that 4 characters had to be cut (I'll leave out pokemon trainer since he lives on in Charizard) here are who I'd cut.

1. Snake- Yes he's a iconic video game character and had a very unique move set, but I never really enjoyed him in smash bros. I wasn't a huge fan of his moves and also him being in a nintendo fighter never really fit with me (I'll always associate him with playstation).

2. Wolf- I'll admit that he is not a clone, like some people may claim him to be, but that said he does have a lot of overlap with fox and falco. Despite being fun to play with, I'm happy with just fox and falco.

3. Lucario- He's a decent character I suppose. I was surprised to see him announced as a returner so soon for smash 4. Nothing about his play style really connected with me. Also I would rather have mewtwo than him from a significance to me standpoint.

4. Wario- I just don't like anything about this character .
Yes I would happily keep clones like Toon Link over Wario. I just don't have fun playing with him.

What 4 characters would you cut?

Are we allowed to cut Smash 4 newcomers as well? If so, these would be the four I'd cut if I absolutely had to. To be clear though, I'm not someone who thinks clones or characters I don't like are smudges on the roster.

1) Dark Pit- just give him the Alph treatment and call it a day. And when you consider that Sakurai invented him in KI:U only to turn around and stick him in Smash a couple years later, it almost feels like a round-about way of making up an original character for the game which I'm not crazy about.

2) Dr. Mario- make him a Mario costume, including the fireballs reskinned to pills and I don't think anyone would be less thrilled to have him around as an alt.

3) Jigglypuff- She's obviously kept around just for tradition at this point and I wouldn't mind seeing her go. She would be less of a loss than Snake or Ice Climbers objectively, because they were the only characters representing their franchise.

4) Lucina- If Robin weren't around I would probably choose differently, but with the totally unique moveset Robin has I think Lucina is the icing on the FE cake that we would be ok without. Beyond the first three I listed I'd be pretty bummed to see any of them go because I can see the importance of each one's inclusion, so Lucina is essentially the character that I feel is least essential. I would be cool with her being a Marth alt, though, which doesn't seem infeasible.


Aside from Jigglypuff, I'd basically just relegate three of my four choices to alternate costumes, which would have presumably freed up the roster for some clones that can't be alts like Ganondorf is to Captain Falcon. It's an especially easy decision in the case of Lucina and Dark Pit who seem to have such minute changes that there would be very little lost in making their movesets completely identical rather than almost completely identical.

And in this hypothetical scenario where making those three alts allows for three more clones, I would do the following. Obviously this isn't the ideal scenario, but in a situation where they are either clones or not in at all, I'd do this:

Ridley as Charizard clone
King K Rool as Bowser clone (fire replaced with stink breath, the rest is easy enough)
Mewtwo as Lucario clone

while I'm at it, I don't understand why Lucas wasn't at least made a Ness alt (especially in the wake of Alph for Olimar) and why there's no Ms. Pac-Man either.
 
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.
It is inaccurate to say the Smash Bros community "doesn't want" to follow etiquette. There is no community decision taking place here. Folks just go where the conversation is, and that happens to be here because there is a flow to the conversation. Most of us don't own the game, so the OT may also be less appealing for that reason.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.

Well, my other post should clarifying how I felt about your comment. Should I dig it out for you?

I truly understand your point but I didn't really take your twitter as joke. I felt that it was more on serious side but it could be me being tired and cranky since I pulled a nighter with leaks last night.
 
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.

From how I understand the rules for the OT (and OTs in general), it's for people who are actually playing the game. Most of the people don't have the game yet, it's only coming out in Japan on Saturday, and all of the footage/stuff we know about is from people who got a copy from a store that broke street date.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Although not being able to choose which, specifically, you wanted to visit from the stage selection screen was one of the bigger problems with the stage in Brawl, as I recall. At least in Brawl you could work around that by playing with the music probability ratios in My Music...
You can choose 1-2 by holding a shield button and 1-1 by holding a jump button in Brawl.
 

Nickle

Cool Facts: Game of War has been a hit since July 2013
I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.
IntelliHeath is a great guy, he was just joking around about losing respect for you. He's been trying to get people to go to the OT, but we won't listen because all of the fun discussion is here. You're right when you say that SmashGAF doesn't really follow the rules of the forum, but none of that blame should be put on him.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.
Thanks for the response -- I think the idea of that leak thread was that the OP was being updated throughout the night as new things showed up in the game. This (in theory) would allow discussion to happen in the other threads, and that thread would be relatively low-postcount, but a convenient place for people to catch up on all the leaks collected in one spot.

It may seem silly to have the concept of a "spoiler" for a fighting game, but I suppose that might have also been part of the intention, prior to release.
 

Kyzer

Banned
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.


I don't know why its bothering you so much ><

The whole shift away from mega threads ... Isn't this GAF working as intended? I know personally I've been in these other threads instead of the OT for the 3DS one because I don't have the game yet. Everything were all talking about is leaks and stuff, which goes in its own thread because it was new news, right? The games not even out yet in Japan. Idk not trying to be argumentative here i swear but you're talking about forum etiquette but implying we should go into the OT of a game that's not out yet to discuss the news which is spoilers ...
 

Axass

Member
Why? Because I illustrated that the OT isn't being used? It's gotten less than 100 posts since this morning, and yet it's the thread intended for talking about the 3DS version of the game. I was joking out deleting it, I was just musing due to the low traffic considering how high traffic every single other Smash thread is, including a leak thread this morning that had 22 pages just discussing stuff in the 3DS version, and there was no reason that couldn't have been in the OT. You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.

I agree the leak thread was redundant (that was just one guy who decided to create it by himself), but I don't see the problem with the rest:

OT: who can actually play the game with a Japanese 3DS (game's not even out yet btw).
PotD: all the others, plus discussion of leaks and daily pics.
 
IntelliHeath is a great guy, he was just joking around about losing respect for you. He's been trying to get people to go to the OT, but we won't listen because all of the fun discussion is here. You're right when you say that SmashGAF doesn't really follow the rules of the forum, but none of that blame should be put on him.
We also dont have the game only a handfull has imported or live in japan
 

Aeana

Member
From how I understand the rules for the OT (and OTs in general), it's for people who are actually playing the game. Most of the people don't have the game yet, it's only coming out in Japan on Saturday, and all of the footage/stuff we know about is from people who got a copy from a store that broke street date.
Well that certainly isn't true. OTs are created a week out from game release, and people have no problem filling those up. Dark Souls 2 was on OT2 either shortly before or just after its release, for example. And up until then, very few actually had the game.
 

Fiktion

Banned
You know, the thread whose purpose is for people playing the game to talk about it?

It's not being used because we don't have the game yet. The leak thread was busy because people were using it as the "spoiler" thread. When the street date actually arrives and lots of people here have the game in their hands, that's when the OT will really see some traffic. If you had asked people would have been happy to explain this.

It's nothing to do with etiquette, and the way you're approaching this makes it seem like you're actively seeking an antagonistic relationship with the community.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
IntelliHeath is a great guy, he was just joking around about losing respect for you. He's been trying to get people to go to the OT, but we won't listen because all of the fun discussion is here. You're right when you say that SmashGAF doesn't really follow the rules of the forum, but none of that blame should be put on him.

Actually, I was serious about what I said but it was wrong of me saying that. It's no excuse for me to being like that but I'm exhausted and tired from smash leak last night with only 3 hours of sleeps. Yeah, when I'm extremely tired, then I become sensitive and taking the comments too serious.

The joke wasn't funny to me because Xane poured all his hearts and hard works on the OT and joking about soft-deleting it just rubbed me wrong.
 

Axass

Member
IntelliHeath is a great guy, he was just joking around about losing respect for you. He's been trying to get people to go to the OT, but we won't listen because all of the fun discussion is here. You're right when you say that SmashGAF doesn't really follow the rules of the forum, but none of that blame should be put on him.

That is surely true, he's the one always going by the rules here. He's a good guy.
 

Rayis

Member
Japanese stream for anyone fiending for some more full game footage. Seems to just be doing games against the CPU. Looks like he has all the characters.
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv193006687
You need a nico account, and also need to join this dude's network, which basically amounts to a couple extra clicks.

Edit: AAAAND it's over lol.
Seems like he cuts the stream every 30 minutes. http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv193007592
Nico lives limit is always 30 mins if you don't have a golden account, also, thanks for the link~
 
It's not being used because we don't have the game yet. The leak thread was busy because people were using it as the "spoiler" thread. When the street date actually arrives and lots of people here have the game in their hands, that's when the OT will really see some traffic.

It's nothing to do with etiquette, and the way you're approaching this makes it seem like you're actively seeking an antagonistic relationship with the community.

Well that certainly isn't true. OTs are created a week out from game release, and people have no problem filling those up. Dark Souls 2 was on OT2 either shortly before or just after its release, for example. And up until then, very few actually had the game.

Aeana's actually right about that part, for example Destiny was already on OT2 by release date.

granted actually rerouting the traffic there is another matter, but still
 

Aeana

Member
It's not being used because we don't have the game yet. The leak thread was busy because people were using it as the "spoiler" thread. When the street date actually arrives and lots of people here have the game in their hands, that's when the OT will really see some traffic. If you had asked people would have been happy to explain this.

It's nothing to do with etiquette, and the way you're approaching this makes it seem like you're actively seeking an antagonistic relationship with the community.
This "you can't post in an OT if you don't have the game" thing is some kind of make believe, and does not in any way reflect the reality of any other OT on this forum. They are created a week from release date, at which time nobody has the game.
 
Well that certainly isn't true. OTs are created a week out from game release, and people have no problem filling those up. Dark Souls 2 was on OT2 either shortly before or just after its release, for example. And up until then, very few actually had the game.

That may be, but in the case of Smash Bros., it's another situation, because there's a staggered release of 2 versions of the game with different content. This thread here has been used (and, from how I understand it, will continued to be used) for the updates coming in from Miiverse and other sources (e.g. Nintendo Directs), whereas the 3DS OT is supposed to be for people talking about the 3DS version, and in particular the people who are playing such.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that in case of Smash Bros., it's an entirely unique situation that is really hard to compare to other games/threads. To top it off, it's a super popular game that sparks a lot of discussion (the fact we're almost done with Thread #16 is pretty solid evidence of that).

I'm not trying to be confrontational, just that I think that there's several special circumstances surrounding this particular pair of threads (the 3DS OT and this one, not talking about any other "news" ones). I think that once the game gets officially released in Japan, when we get more footage/livestreams, the 3DS OT is going to be much more lively.
 
Does anyone know what Mario's Custom Moves are for FLUDD?

if i recall correctly ones a hot water based one ones the normal one and the other one if iirc its like a more stream lined one?

i think sakurai basic thinking for the custom movesets were, power,utlity and then just the basic? but this is just me talkin outta my butt lol
 

Blizzard

Banned
This "you can't post in an OT if you don't have the game" thing is some kind of make believe, and does not in any way reflect the reality of any other OT on this forum. They are created a week from release date, at which time nobody has the game.
Would it make any sense to have a Japanese vs. NA thread, or a "spoiler" thread even though most people probably know the roster etc. now? Or would that be too silly?

I feel like plot-related games tend have gotten spoiler threads on release, but of course this is a weird case.
 

Tansut

Member
Why not just close this thread and redirect everyone to the OT if it's an issue? Seems simple enough.

EDIT: Although I didn't think of spoilers.
 
Also, I'm particularly sour at you pissing at Wolf and acting like he's the cloniest shit in the world. Wolf is not a clone. Wolf looks entirely different from Fox. Wolf moves entirely different from Fox. Wolf's entire normal moveset is entirely different from Fox, to the point where both of them use entirely different limbs for like 90% of their moves. Wolf's specials, while loosely based on Fox's, work entirely different from Fox's, in their looks and their effects. The only thing Wolf has that is an actual direct copy off of Fox's moveset is the Final Smash.
I've brought the comparison up often, and will do so again: Calling Wolf a clone of Fox is akin to saying that Ryu is a clone of Chun-Li. Both share similar special moves (a fireball, a rising punch/kick, and a spinning kick), but their moves and movement is entirely different. Nobody would even dare call Chun-Li a clone of Ryu, because that's dumb - they're obviously not clones even though their special moves are similar. So why is it that Wolf constantly gets thrown in with Dr. Mario, Roy and whomever else?

Sorry, I didn't mean to infer that about Wolf. I'd actually have preferred that Falco be cut instead of Wolf (if one of them had to be) because you're right, Wolf IS less cloney than Falco. He's still a clone IMO in the sense that he does share Fox's overall play style and general set of special moves, but not nearly as identical a clone.

I still maintain that I don't care about Wolf as a character, but yeah, he's absolutely far less cloney than Falco. All I meant to imply about Wolf is that people hating on him in the Brawl days is very similar to how people are hating on Dark Pit now, even if Dark Pit is a "clonier" clone than Wolf (which might not actually be the case; it's too early to tell as most of us are going off of video footage and haven't played the unlockable characters).

That didn't stop Ganondorf from becoming an F-Zero racer

There was never a precedent for Ganondorf doing Falcon punches, either. ¯\_(&#12484;)_/¯

FYI I don't like Dr. Mario either. In fact, I'm miffed that people are willing to accept Dr. Mario but deride Dark Pit on, I assume, seniority basis. Double standards and all.

Point well taken about Ganondorf/Captain Falcon. I stand corrected. :p

And yeah, Regulus Tera, it's silly. It really is just seniority and it's dumb. People will give anything related to Melee a pass simply because it's from Melee. Melee nostalgia does strange things to people. While I do recognize that it's nice to have a version of Mario without the FLUDD, that could have much less messily been handled by making the Mario Tornado a down-B alt for Mario and not giving Dr. Mario, literally the cloniest clone of all time, his own slot.

That said, even my cold, Dr. Mario-disliking heart is appreciative of the new, tiny little things they've done to differentiate him more here; his intro animation, Final Smash, things like that. It's pretty neat.

The differences are minimal but make a world of difference. Look how much cuter she got! She no longer has that idle expression of a fat cat trying to breathe.
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Wow. I hadn't really noticed it before, but Jigglypuff really does look worlds better than ever before. She might be the single most improved veteran character model from previous games. The difference is striking; it's all in the eyes!

Well, Alph does use Rock Pikmin, which act differently from all other Pikmin types (bounce off enemies but do lots of damage) and I'm sure they could've thought of more things to differentiate him from Olimar.
Mostly I'm upset that Pit + Dark Pit together make sixteen different colors for essentially the same character, while Olimar has to share his eight with Alph and loses two of his Brawl colors. I wouldn't be nearly as upset if both he and Alph had eight.
I liked Dark Pit in Uprising, I thought it was nice that this wasn't just another "evil shadow" - then again, Dark Samus from the Prime is also not another "evil shadow" and very easily could've been distinguished from Samus with a moveset (and would've given Metroid a deserved third rep).
I just wish Sakurai was consistent with what does and does not make a character an alternate costume.

But Alph doesn't use Rock Pikmin in Smash (even if he should be able to), right? So his move set is literally identical to Olimar's in this case, justifiably (in Sakurai's eyes) making him an alt and not a clone with his own slot.

I've beat the game, several times and did the square challenges. I love it to pieces and it's one of my favourite 3DS games. I love the storytelling in it, I love the characters in it.
But Dark Pit is the worst character of the whole game, by a long mile. He is derivative, his atrocious, has the charisma of a wooden plank (that stands out even more because ALL the rest of the characters are much better than him), and only worked as a joke of the typical dark version of characters in games and cartoons, that try to be edgy to 12-15 year olds.

So I dont know why are you "laughing" so much to a lie you have just invented.
Do you want me and other people that criticise him to take a photo of the game to show you more prove?

Most people don't see him cool or anything like that, we know what up with those type of characters. If you think he is cool, good for you, but let the rest us complain what a shitty addition he is to the roster.
His addition married with the absence of less "clony" characters and more important than him, seriously bring the good roster that we got down.

You're the poster child for why I said "most" and not "all" people who hate Dark Pit have likely not played or didn't like Uprising. You played and loved Uprising and yet still hate Dark Pit. Okay, cool. I respect your opinion and the fact that you have it. No doubt there are others out there who do as well!

I still suspect that a lot of people who hate Dark Pit don't have any actual context for the character. But for those that do and who still hate him, well, okay! Different strokes for different folks!
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Out of curiosity, following the rules of Dark Pit, Who would've you wanted to see in his place?

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The rules being:
1. Not neccessarily a recolor, but must look similar to who it's based on.
2. Clone (basically the same moves)
3. Can have a different voice and taunts and final smash.
(He has all of these right?)
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My vote:
Hmm...Demise I guess. Though he wouldn't use a sword...
Actually, my vote goes to Skyward Sword Zelda. With a harp final smash.
Actually...I need time to think.
 
I'm sorry this upsets you so much, but it confuses me that the Smash Bros. community doesn't seem to want to follow the same etiquette as the rest of the forum.

It's hard sometimes to determine the forum etiquette regarding OTs and the like when TLoU had seven different threads on the front page shortly before release and each one of them was full of the same people posting "PUT IT IN MY ASS" repeatedly.

Exaggerating. But...not as much as you may think.

ANYWAY HOW ABOUT THAT DUCK HUNT DOG HUH
 

Aeana

Member
That may be, but in the case of Smash Bros., it's another situation, because there's a staggered release of 2 versions of the game with different content. This thread here has been used (and, from how I understand it, will continued to be used) for the updates coming in from Miiverse and other sources (e.g. Nintendo Directs), whereas the 3DS OT is supposed to be for people talking about the 3DS version, and in particular the people who are playing such.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is that in case of Smash Bros., it's an entirely unique situation that is really hard to compare to other games/threads. To top it off, it's a super popular game that sparks a lot of discussion (the fact we're almost done with Thread #16 is pretty solid evidence of that).

I'm not trying to be confrontational, just that I think that there's several special circumstances surrounding this particular pair of threads (the 3DS OT and this one, not talking about any other "news" ones). I think that once the game gets officially released in Japan, when we get more footage/livestreams, the 3DS OT is going to be much more lively.
I don't have any problem with Wii U stuff being relegated to this thread. That's why we've kept it open, and are happy to do so. But, for example, once the leak thread (which was about the 3DS version) was closed, that discussion seemed to move here rather than the OT, which hasn't been very active. Why?
 
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