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[TheSlySoul]

Stage creater made me happy. Curious what board games does. Wii U version true version of Smash.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

 

[Gleethor]

Heyyyyy...didn't sakurai say something about assist trophies figuring into all-star mode? Maybe its just a Wii U thing.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Heyyyyy...didn't sakurai say something about assist trophies figuring into all-star mode? Maybe its just a Wii U thing.

I think that was a mistranslation and they meant it more for an all star cast in the game, instead of the mode specifically.

 

[OmegaSmash]

Topical!

Spoiler

I chuckled, at least.

 

[Milchmonster]

Is the game + Controller + Gamecube adapter bundle exclusive to the US?

It seems that all the European Amazon stores only have game + adapter.

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

EDIT :NVM

 

[Neifirst]

Question for Smash veterans:

Would you recommend getting the Gamecube controller bundle for someone whose only experience with the series was back on the N64?

I'm not opposed to spending a bit more if it makes the game that more playable and enjoyable, but since I won't be bringing any Melee experience, I didn't know if it really makes a difference.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice!

 

[powerdrain]

Question for Smash veterans:

Would you recommend getting the Gamecube controller bundle for someone whose only experience with the series was back on the N64?

I'm not opposed to spending a bit more if it makes the game that more playable and enjoyable, but since I won't be bringing any Melee experience, I didn't know if it really makes a difference.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice!

The Gamecube controller is largely preferred by Smash players since Melee kind of revolutionised the series and the change from the clunkiness of the N64 was helped greatly by the change in controller design. I wouldn't say you have to opt for it nor will it hinder you at all by using a newer pad. I think for a lot of people it's just unwillingness to change or just because they've got so used to the established control scheme that it's difficult to learn a new one. Another draw of the GC pad is a c stick which I will say is mighty handy for quickly executing attacks but still perfectly fine doing the manual way on other pads.

I personally do have the bundle on preorder but have had no problems with the newer layouts on 3DS and other Wii pads so I'm really considering just cancelling it and using what I have but no it's not essential. If you missed that generation anyway I wouldn't invest extra in it.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Ugh I want more information on the level editor, it is both my most desired feature & the feature that could let me down most. (if it's like Brawl again)

 

[chaosblade]

Question for Smash veterans:

Would you recommend getting the Gamecube controller bundle for someone whose only experience with the series was back on the N64?

I'm not opposed to spending a bit more if it makes the game that more playable and enjoyable, but since I won't be bringing any Melee experience, I didn't know if it really makes a difference.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice!

You would probably be fine with another control scheme. For what it's worth my brother prefers using a CCPro instead of a GC controller in Project M. I personally can't use anything but a GC controller, otherwise I fumble around confusedly.

In general the benefits of the GC option is that it's wired (the only wired option) and familiarity, since it's been the standard for Smash for over a decade.

 

[Neifirst]

Thanks for the replies. I'll just go with the eshop version then and use my wii u pro controller. If GameCube virtual console was coming soon, it would be a no-brainer, but since it's only for Smash, I'll pass.

 

[Polioliolio]

They should have a surprise direct on Monday talking about the new features everyone knows about.

No point in hemming and hawing.

 

[SuperSah]

Hey guys, did you ever figure out what the mode is Sakurai teased?

I saw the JP text is uncensored, but I can't read it, so..

 

[Neoriceisgood]

I just hope the stage editor uses assets from actual games.

 

[Village]

Ugh I want more information on the level editor, it is both my most desired feature & the feature that could let me down most. (if it's like Brawl again)

If we could make actuall land, like have land tiles instead of stone and shit and whatever in the last game and trees and have backgrounds and stuff, so good

 

[Neoriceisgood]

If we could make actuall land, like have land tiles instead of stone and shit and whatever in the last game and trees and have backgrounds and stuff, so good

I've got two positive solutions that I'd be okay with/love:


1. tilesets that'd allow us to make stages using retro styles .e.g. smash 64's mushroomy kingdom or 75M.

2. being able to build platforms/constructions onto all the FD stages we've been given.


Either of those would be awesome.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Considering how close we are to release, can we ignore any "leaks" that come out unless there are images or if there were things the poster got right after their original post?
Tower of Smash and Smash World were both unbelievable, and there's really no point in sharing them. I'll throw in the Agnes leak too, even if that was an image. The leaks are getting more and more desperate in what news they provide in order to get attention, and we shouldn't give it to them.

If you want to be boring.

Well I hope Stage Builder is vastly improved.

Or it'll just be exactly the same except they re-enabled the slope tiles that weren't available for some reason in Brawl.

WHAAAT I want slope tiles!

Question for Smash veterans:

Would you recommend getting the Gamecube controller bundle for someone whose only experience with the series was back on the N64?

I'm not opposed to spending a bit more if it makes the game that more playable and enjoyable, but since I won't be bringing any Melee experience, I didn't know if it really makes a difference.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice!

Button Configuration. GCN Controller or bust.

 

[foxuzamaki]

You guys probably have already noticed, but there is a pattern for the unlockable characters.

Friday - Ness, Falco, Wario
Last Thursday - Dr. Mario & Dark Pit
This Wednesday - Ganondorf & ROB
Next Tuesday, and lastly the Monday after that.

I'm guessing that after all of the unlockable characters are revealed, then we will get to the big things.
Maybe some details on Smash World?

Someone should get heath to update the OP

 

[chaosblade]

I've got two positive solutions that I'd be okay with/love:


1. tilesets that'd allow us to make stages using retro styles .e.g. smash 64's mushroomy kingdom or 75M.

2. being able to build platforms/constructions onto all the FD stages we've been given.


Either of those would be awesome.

And being able to share stages and play them online with friends.

But this is Smash. So far we can't even share replays online, hoping to share stages, let alone actually use them online, is definitely hoping for too much.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

And being able to share stages and play them online with friends.

But this is Smash. So far we can't even share replays online, hoping to share stages, let alone actually use them online, is definitely hoping for too much.

It'd be kinda ridiculous if you can't at least use custom stages with friends online..

 

[Village]

I've got two positive solutions that I'd be okay with/love:


1. tilesets that'd allow us to make stages using retro styles .e.g. smash 64's mushroomy kingdom or 75M.

2. being able to build platforms/constructions onto all the FD stages we've been given.


Either of those would be awesome.

Yup!

Also for playing at home purposes.

Import music like tekken ( it will never happen )

 

[IntelliHeath]

Hey guys, did you ever figure out what the mode is Sakurai teased?

I saw the JP text is uncensored, but I can't read it, so..

All we know from Amazon Leak,

Whether you’re creating stages on the GamePad, competing in challenges crafted by Master Hand and Crazy Hand, or outwitting your opponents in a brand new board game mode,

I would guess that Special Order might be name of the mode that Sakurai teased. Also there are some people that speculating that it might be new form of Event Matches where Master/Crazy Hands would make up the events for you.

 

[JazzmanZ]

The joke would be a lot better if metaknights piece hasn't already been moved beforehand.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Hey guys, did you ever figure out what the mode is Sakurai teased?

I saw the JP text is uncensored, but I can't read it, so..

It's just "Master Side" and "Crazy Side" in the Japanese version.

 

[Platy]

So ... what are the odds of Sakurai doing the same breach that allowed Project M with the WiiU's stage editor ?

 

[BGBW]

I hope the stage creator has SDK Paint integration for custom tile textures.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Never cared about stage builder myself, but the board game sounds hype.

You guys probably have already noticed, but there is a pattern for the unlockable characters.

Friday - Ness, Falco, Wario
Last Thursday - Dr. Mario & Dark Pit
This Wednesday - Ganondorf & ROB
Next Tuesday, and lastly the Monday after that.

I'm guessing that after all of the unlockable characters are revealed, then we will get to the big things.
Maybe some details on Smash World?

What are the next two characters in the unlock "order"? Hopefully Bowser Jr? Can't wait to see him in HD.

 

[Tan]

So ... what are the odds of Sakurai doing the same breach that allowed Project M with the WiiU's stage editor ?

crediting Sakurai for everything is getting ridiculous now lol

 

[ALM5252]

So ... what are the odds of Sakurai doing the same breach that allowed Project M with the WiiU's stage editor ?

Would be cool if it was "intentionally" done. Would enjoy custom stages and other things like I do for Project M.

 

[Son Of D]

Never cared about stage builder myself, but the board game sounds hype.

What are the next two characters in the unlock "order"? Hopefully Bowser Jr? Can't wait to see him in HD.

I think it's G&W and Bowser Jr.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Next: Game and Watch and Jigglypuff.

 

[Dr. Buni]

I think it's G&W and Bowser Jr.

Yay Shame Duck Hunt is one of the last to be unlocked, I can't wait to see them in HD also

Next: Game and Watch and Jigglypuff.

boo

 

[rekameohs]

Would be cool if it was "intentionally" done. Would enjoy custom stages and other things like I do for Project M.

Ummm....of course it wasn't intentional.

 

[The Bankslammer]

Honestly, I had way more fun with the Stage Builder when I could use a PC client to create stages without block limits and that allowed for overlap, so even just adding those things would make it all wayyyy better for me.

I don't have much confidence it'll be a whole lot better than Brawl's though. I really want it to be! More than 3 total tilesets and backgrounds would be a good start.

 

[IntelliHeath]

So ... what are the odds of Sakurai doing the same breach that allowed Project M with the WiiU's stage editor ?

The team already said that they wouldn't follow up for Wii U version. They are going to stay with Brawl Mod scene.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Sorry about double post. I meant to edit but I didn't realize that I clicked new post out of habit.

Never cared about stage builder myself, but the board game sounds hype.

What are the next two characters in the unlock "order"? Hopefully Bowser Jr? Can't wait to see him in HD.

It's Mr. Game and Watch(90) and Bowser Jr. (100)

Then Duck Hunt (110) and Jigglypuff (120)

 

[Dr. Buni]

It's Mr. Game and Watch(90) and Bowser Jr. (100)

Then Duck Hunt (110) and Jigglypuff (120)

Yay again!

 

[Senselessb]

Did Neorice ever do sprites of Dunban or Riki? I have been so excited to see them, along with other Xenoblade characters!!

 

[Boss Doggie]

So uh, who won the Smash guessing game contest thing?

 

[Roo]

I hope the stage builder isn't as barebones as the one in Brawl.
10-15 backgrounds would be a nice start.

 

[The Captain]

I hope the stage builder isn't as barebones as the one in Brawl.
10-15 backgrounds would be a nice start.

One for each stage would be better. Considering how a lot of stages have more interesting things going on in the background than in the foreground (Final Destination, Super Mario Galaxy stage), it would be nice to use those for our own stages.

 

[KLatin Scelus]

This thread, is deader than S

Spoiler

nake

 

[Fiktion]

The team already said that they wouldn't follow up for Wii U version. They are going to stay with Brawl Mod scene.

Did they give a reason why?

Do they not want to tackle HD?

 

[Beelzebufo]

Did they give a reason why?

Do they not want to tackle HD?

I think they were playing it safe, because Nintendo might get pissed if they tried to detract interest in the brand new Smash game.

Also, do you think we'll see Ridley in a PotD/direct before launch, or will Sakurai let us discover him ourselves? Maybe when boss battles mode is revealed?

 

[Dr. Buni]

Why would Sakurai reveal a playable character in a PotD?

Spoiler

D:

 

[KLatin Scelus]

Why would Sakurai reveal a playable character in a PotD?

Spoiler

D:

Why hasn't he revealed Ridley, period?

 

[Dr. Buni]

Why hasn't he revealed Ridley, period?

That is a good question. Not sure why all the secret about a (supposedly) boss character.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Why hasn't he revealed Ridley, period?

The only thing I can think of is that Boss Mode is a game mode, and he doesn't want to reveal too many off the bosses for the new mode. He seems to not want to spoil new game modes, like Master Orders.

 

[MaverickHunterAsh]

If you want to be boring.

I agree with this. Speculating on leaks - even ridiculous ones - is part of the pre-Smash hype, and is something we won't get to do again for many years after this. Those who find leak speculation disagreeable are more than welcome to ignore it, but I don't think we should have to avoid it at all. It's harmless fun.

I think a lot of people who have that "speculation on dumb leaks is dumb" attitude are going to find that they miss all the discussions and theorizing about the games' characters, stages and features once both of them are actually out and the surprise is gone.