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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS
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theprodigy
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what were you gonna post
The Bankslammer
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we need an olympic village stage to represent the mario & sonic series
KLatin Scelus
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You guys think there's going to be a 4 vs. 4 matches in competitive play?
Sigismundo
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I doubt it since getting eight people set up at once would take a while. Showmatches maybe.
The only reasons I could see why Tingle would get in over Impa is due to the fact that Tingle has his own games (guy is surprisingly popular in Japan), and a more consistent characterization than Impa.
Impa has had tons of different iterations which vary from old lady Impa to "big is beautiful" Impa to cool ninja lady Impa. Of the regularly reappearing Zelda characters Impa has the most variation and thus it might be harder to create a smash character who would be true to the character's representation in the series.
That being said we all know the only acceptable Impa for Smash is Hyrule Warriors Impa.
It's either a new stage or maaaaaybe mushroom kingdom U. We had a lengthy discussion yesterday. I maintain that there's a retro looking cityscape in the background
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I will try my best to have countdown gif for Europe/Japan.
*tin foil hat* I predict that Onett is going to have a new stage hazard with Porky coming out.
was this posted yet?? gamexplain analysis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKrkH7HEbw&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ
it was uploaded some time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKrkH7HEbw&list=UUfAPTv1LgeEWevG8X_6PUOQ
it was uploaded some time ago.
balladofwindfishes
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Pretty much, yea.
other than Temple, there isn't any good representation of the Zelda series pre ocarina in Smash. Pig Gano would rep those games amazingly well.
If Impa gets in it better be Skyward Sword version and not white-washed Hyrule Warriors version.
I enhanced the octopus pic. The background looks like some Mario 3D Land-esque cliffs. I thought maybe it might be from Mushroom Kingdom U when water floods a world but none of the worlds look like that. The water and cliff color are wrong for Wuhu Island and Delphino Plaza. I'm not sure what this level is.
Game and Watch's final smash actually adds a gray-ish filter to the world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npk7Fk8e40g#t=768
You can see the room flooding in the Mushroom Kingdom U stage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCfRCTlULs0#t=132
Based on yesterday's discussion
MrSaturn99
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New Mr. Game and Watch pictures from Nintendo's Facebook.
This is partially what I mean by Impa's inconsistent characterization. She's white, she's dark skinned, and then sometimes shes just gray.
That being said I'd be all for SS Impa just to add a little more racial diversity on the smash roster. Right now all we've got is Ganondorf (who is closer to green than brown) and the Mii Fighters.
Even with the Mii Fighters its kinda sad that not one of the three main renders chosen has different skin tone than white. I digress though. I would be down with Impa or Ganon as a new Zelda rep.
A lot of them have newer, better textures (Castle Siege, Onett), but Temple is by far the best looking returning stage. Most likely due to it being one of the most iconic stages.
Good, good...
MrSaturn99 said:
save the rants for OT stuff
Hush, the both of ya.
So regarding the latest video with the 50 things about SSB4. For the most part, I was pleased, but as is generally the case with Sakurai over the past few years, he is not without missteps. And boy howdy, does this game have missteps.
Level count: So Sakurai had that funny little animation of the bar graphs that showed SSB4 Wii-U was supposed to obliterate the 3DS version in terms of level numbers. Of course, he didn't seem to have the foresight to predict that people out there would actually, you know, count them. The 3DS version has 34 levels. How many does the Wii-U version have? A whopping FIVE additional levels! Wow. I'm totally overwhelmed here. No need to go crazy, Sakurai!
I'm sorry, but I didn't look at that cute bar graph animation and think that "not even comparable" meant "a 15% increase". But hey, I guess it's my fault for thinking this was America.
If it was 10 levels higher, okay I can dig that. But anything less is an insult.
Level quality: Of the roughly 60 - 70 levels Sakurai could have chosen from all prior games to bring back, he picks a majority of the worst ones? I mean, really. Delfino Plaza? Bridge of Eldin? Whatever that 8-bit Donkey Kong one is called? Come on, nobody in the world asked for those.
Furthermore, there is no original F-Zero level! Why? Those were among the best ones in the whole series! Even if you all disagree with me on every one of my complaints, you have to agree with this one. That and the Miiverse level blows.
Smash Tour: This would have been great if not for one major flaw: you have to play with other characters. I dunno about you guys, but I have one main that I've stuck with since the 64 version: Mario (and Dr. Mario, I guess). You see, by not having to worry about having to play with other characters and risk dulling one's skill, sticking with one character allows you to put 100% of your effort on improving, honing and refining that characters abilities, thus making him an undefeatable battle god. But now Sakurai wants to ruin everything by forcing us to use other players? The whole point of having the ability to select characters is so that you could don't have to use characters you don't want to. That's like Fighting Games 101. Yet somewhere along the lines, Sakurai seems to have lost his way. A pity.
Alright then, that's it for now. I shall leave my hand palm forward up in the air for all the hundreds of high fives I will no doubt be receiving.
The graph animation you are talking about was about the amount of music in the game, not the number of levels.
Aaronrules380
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Uh, that bar was about music, not level count. And we don't know all the levels yet anyways. And I like bridge of eldin and delfino plaza. I don't think either of those stages are really disliked
The bar graphs were about the amount of music, not levels.
KLatin Scelus
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He brings up a good point, is Rayquaza a pokeball Pokemon, or a stage hazard?
1.) There's currently 11 more stages on the WiiU version than the 3DS version. We don't even know all of the WiiU stages anyway.
2.) HEY! I liked Delfino Plaza!
3.) If you hate 75m, you're gonna loathe Mario Bros. (Based on an event pic, we might get that stage back.
4.) *Gives high five*
Dunno if it's been brought up, but you can use amiibo for co op modes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEx7D9mXFz0
Also, temple's final destination mode!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEx7D9mXFz0
Also, temple's final destination mode!
MrSaturn99
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I wouldn't cry foul about the stage roster numbers just yet, as we know that some are certainly unlockable (such as Smashville).
I guess I can agree I'm not that excited about Smash Tour (I'd rather have something like Melee's Adventure Mode or Smash Run), but I'm willing to give it a chance.
I guess I can agree I'm not that excited about Smash Tour (I'd rather have something like Melee's Adventure Mode or Smash Run), but I'm willing to give it a chance.
Shamrock7r
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I just hope Magicant is in, and that they magically get rid of the flying man
Spinosaurus
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balladofwindfishes
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astrogamer
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There are already 45 confirmed stages. You are just counting the starter stages.
There's also the issue of being spiked through the floor though.
they can just replace ganondorf's final smash with alfronzo when ganon is in play
balladofwindfishes
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I think in Smash 6 Mewtwo will be on the default roster.
I think going forward Mewtwo and Doc are in this series for good.
I think going forward Mewtwo and Doc are in this series for good.
KLatin Scelus
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I really hope they do.
Would be really strange if MOTHER and F-Zero were left with one old stage a piece when they both got new stages in the 3DS version that could be easily ported over. I have faith in them being unlockables, but I often wind up disappointed with these things...
Delfino Plaza was brought back because it was the only mainstream Mario stage left from Brawl. Mushroom Kingdom is on 3DS and Mario Bros. is lol. Hell, he also brought back Mario Circuit and Luigi's Mansion, so I don't see the issue here.
For Zelda, it was either Eldin or the Pirate Ship, and since Temple came back as well, I guess he went with the TP level. This is just making me think there's a new Wind Waker HD stage in the game.
As for 8-bit DK, it was either that or Rumble Falls. We would have lost either way so he went for nostalgia at least.
We don't know about F-Zero yet. Mute City was unlockable on the 3DS version even thought Falcon is a starter character.
...oh.
This page has only 39 though:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/super-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds/Wii_U_Stages
Unless you guys are counting the Omega levels as separate stages.
Didn't the video say that all the levels shown in it are the only ones in the game?
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fredrancour
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Bipedal humanoid trident-wielder and charging wild boar are pretty different designs. Wouldn't even have to change Ganondorf's final smash.
Starphoenix
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Hmm... That bit about the v1.0.3 for the 3DS version was interesting. My guess is it enables 3DS-Wii U connectivity, sharing information.
There are hidden stages we know about that aren't shown on the default stage list, like Pokemon Stadium 2 and Pacland.
Plus, I believe one of the people who went to the press event mentioned there were unlockable stages that he "wasn't allowed to talk about".
Aaronrules380
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That list is incomplete, here's all the stages we know of http://www.ssbwiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._4#Stages_in_Super_Smash_Bros._for_Wii_U
MrSaturn99
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So uh
apparently the Meta Ridley hazard in Pyrosphere is called "Black Ridley" in Japan.
Nope. We've seen brief hints at Smashville and Pokémon Stadium 2, and they're not anywhere to be found in the default roster.
apparently the Meta Ridley hazard in Pyrosphere is called "Black Ridley" in Japan.
Nope. We've seen brief hints at Smashville and Pokémon Stadium 2, and they're not anywhere to be found in the default roster.
KLatin Scelus
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Those are stages that are there by default.
I was counting unlockable stages that we know (Pokemon Stadium 2, Smashville, Congo Jungle (yes, from the original 64), etc.)
The WiiU actually has 4 more stages than Brawl, and we don't even know all of the WiiU stages yet.
IntelliHeath
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They really made Temple look much better and brand new. I really like that. Also it was pretty good take on the menu so I suspect that we might get DLC tab for stage selection.
OricWindstar
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Oh wow. That's actually really, really awesome. Dammit, I'm totally getting an amiibo.
The Bankslammer
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i didn't notice until now that you can see the other portions of temple floating around in the background of the omega variant, neat
astrogamer
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Doesn't that happen with similar floating stages like Battlefield.
Sigismundo
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With Black Face and Black Pit there's a whole lot of black going around.
DICKS AHOY
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Amiibos are looking way more enticing to me after seeing how elaborate the 'learning' system is now than when they were first announced.
Gamexplain thinks this is the omega version of Mario Circuit despite it being way too small and having a platform...
They forgot that Mushroom Kingdom U has water and Game & Watch's final smash makes the background like that. Plz, Gamexplain. That only took us a couple of minutes to sort out.
The Captain
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Yes.
Tingle is more consistent as a character, more interesting, and has his own series to base him on.
I can't really see a way to make Impa interesting. We already have Sheik, and I think that's enough.
Tingle isn't in probably because a lot of Westerners hate him.
Damn.
Well, I guess that settles it.
This is the best video explaining Amiibos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEx7D9mXFz0&list=UU2e0bNZ6CzT-Xvr070VaGsw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEx7D9mXFz0&list=UU2e0bNZ6CzT-Xvr070VaGsw
DICKS AHOY
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While Smash 4 looks great, the MK8 level does sort of highlight how much better that game's lighting system was.
Gamexplain thinks this is the omega version of Mario Circuit despite it being way too small and having a platform...
I'll take 8 simultaneous players and 1080p over that though.
Sigismundo
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So how would people feel about Impa (Hyrule Warriors Impa but it could be most of her designs really) possibly replacing Sheik, since Zelda+Sheik are seperate characters?
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