Yeah clear more till the domain is gone, the quest regarding mayvin won't disappear so don't worry.
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Tales of Zestiria |OT| - Sorey, Modders did what Bamcouldn't!
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EDIT: wasn't even thinking and forgot this was posted a page back
Yeah I've only used stuff I find in chests so far, better focus on buying equipment more, game is really fun though. So much new stuff to keep track of, especially when the last Tales game I played was Symphonia :lol
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
If your combo does at least 10K damage then your Mystic Arte cost is reduced by 1 Blast Gauge IIRC.
Is that referring to the gauge with damage numbers above that appears whenever you armatize?
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I am not sure exactly. This might need some testing.
The descriptions for some of the Battle Skills are confusing.
texhnolyze
Banned
Well, indeed. The villains aren't too villainy in Zestiria. I feel that too. Even I think the Lord of Calamity doesn't deserve to die like that.
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My list of Tales of games that I've beaten (updated Oct 30th, 2015):
- Tales of Phantasia
- Tales of Symphonia
- Tales of the Abyss
- Tales of Vesperia
- Tales of Xillia
- Tales of Zestiria
I've played most of Tales of games, but I rarely finish them, and Zestiria has earned its spot on my list. Totally enjoyed the journey with fantastic characters and great bonding between them (one of the best in JRPGs). Combat is challenging as usual, but kinda hindered with the wonky camera. Story is interesting but still with flaws here and there. I also LOVE the sidequests. Overall I totally enjoyed Zestiria, totally exceeded my expectations.
8/10
texhnolyze
Banned
I did. I even have restarted it several times.
But I can't push myself to actually finish it. Always lose my interest around midway in the game.
Some story spoilers after the
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Water Trial
After the Maltran scene, it feels disconnected in a sense. The princess has "outlived her usefulness" and right after it's like "Let's head to the Wind Trial" "I'm sure Alisha will be fine", etc. Saying that after letting her 'teacher' who works for the Lord of Calamity escape with a sword that is powerful enough to "cleave the world". Just feels very odd and disconnected in a way? Meh. I'm interested in where it's going but that part just feels so off to me.
Xillia 2?
texhnolyze
Banned
Still on my backlog hell.
Played for about 10 hours but some interesting games got released and I kinda dropped it. Haven't get back to it since. I think I will later, after I'm finished with this Alisha DLC.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Ended up getting hit in the feels again the other day. This part happens after you c
STORY SPOILERS BELOW
ollect all the Earthen Historia gems.
STORY SPOILERS BELOW
The part I'm talking about happens after Mayvin shows you the village of Camlann's past and what happened to the previous Shepherd and Heldalf. After this you have to fight Mayvin and prove whether you have the determination to deal with Heldalf.
But as Sorey is about fire a shot at Mayvin he collapses. He's beginning to die because he broke the taboo and directly interfered with the conflict between the Shepherd and the Lord of Calamity. In his final moments Mayvin says something that touched me. I can't remember what he said verbatim but it was along the lines of "I never thought I would die with people at my side..... Thank you".
Those final words hit me, that communicated to me that he must have felt lonely in some capacity, since he was fated to carry on the stories and legends of the past and lived as a lone explorer.
But as Sorey is about fire a shot at Mayvin he collapses. He's beginning to die because he broke the taboo and directly interfered with the conflict between the Shepherd and the Lord of Calamity. In his final moments Mayvin says something that touched me. I can't remember what he said verbatim but it was along the lines of "I never thought I would die with people at my side..... Thank you".
Those final words hit me, that communicated to me that he must have felt lonely in some capacity, since he was fated to carry on the stories and legends of the past and lived as a lone explorer.
Ending spoilers:
Shrug. Still, I think it was an alright game, but not as bad as people were making it out to be. Final boss was short and extremely easy, got my achievement for Chaos difficulty clear. Was pretty cool to hear
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Underwhelming and not very well explained. At this point, I don't even really care anymore. Story was meh and felt like it was just an excuse. The only interesting part was with Symonne in Pendrago, but even that didn't fully make sense. It was just sort of go from point A to point B, "we're doing this now", not many interesting story events or anything. No real surprises. Even stuff like Heldalf absorbing Gramps was just kind of like "oh, he did that? darn."
So many plot points go unexplained and so many "it works this way just because" situations, like when Dezel broke the sublord pact. "It's not supposed to work the other way around" well then how did he do it? No explanation. The whole final boss felt very rushed and ended very quickly. Heldalf wasn't even built up to be an interesting villain at all, unlike other Tales games. They tried to do the usual "he's not evil, he just has a different point of view" but no, he was pretty much just evil.
Still need to do Alisha DLC, but I have a feeling it's not going to explain very much more, but I could be wrong.
So many plot points go unexplained and so many "it works this way just because" situations, like when Dezel broke the sublord pact. "It's not supposed to work the other way around" well then how did he do it? No explanation. The whole final boss felt very rushed and ended very quickly. Heldalf wasn't even built up to be an interesting villain at all, unlike other Tales games. They tried to do the usual "he's not evil, he just has a different point of view" but no, he was pretty much just evil.
Still need to do Alisha DLC, but I have a feeling it's not going to explain very much more, but I could be wrong.
Shrug. Still, I think it was an alright game, but not as bad as people were making it out to be. Final boss was short and extremely easy, got my achievement for Chaos difficulty clear. Was pretty cool to hear
the incantation for Indignation
Also, funny that the Dark Turtlez was like literally Ludger.
Um... I finished all the trials and instead of continuing the story I decided to do some sidequests. So I reach Zaphgott Moort and Longhrin....
Also, one of the villagers there (with a green sidequest icon) talked about a perfect round thing in one of the caves (my guess is an Iris Gem) but when I talk to Rose that quest is not showing up with the rest... that's weird.
and I have found Discovery sites but they do not trigger any skits (The Teepo Plushie/Oasis in the desert). Is this because I was supposed to have Zaveid in my party? Was I supposed to do this later?
Also, one of the villagers there (with a green sidequest icon) talked about a perfect round thing in one of the caves (my guess is an Iris Gem) but when I talk to Rose that quest is not showing up with the rest... that's weird.
Basileus777
Member
You've pretty much summed up my thoughts on how the story turned out. I'd called this a mid-tier Tales game, though right now I feel like I enjoyed most of the PS3 era games more than this one.
Could anyone tell me how long the Alisha DLC is?
TheSuperSakura
Member
It's about 2-3 hours.
A little OT but for anyone who got the collectors edition guide the ps4 theme is up for download now. I have to say I do like it, but it doesn't include Edna, Alisha, Dezel or Zaveid. It only shows Lailah, Sorey, Mikelo and Rose. :/ Given how the ToX2 theme was I was expecting a little more I suppose...
Dedication Through Light
Member
Ugh had over a 100 hit combo on that eggplant looking boss on hard difficulty and it had only a sliver of health left (from full to that in like 30 seconds) and I got hit and died ugh. Then it took me 45 minutes to beat it.
Bosses be two hit KO'ing Meebo
Bosses be two hit KO'ing Meebo
Oh my fucking god I hate this church dungeon so much. Whose bright-ass idea was it to design a dungeon with tight as fuck corridors with corners everywhere when the battle camera just fucks up constantly?
Also why is the AI so poor? They die constantly and in the last 3 bossfights it's been me controlling Sorey+whoever is armatized against the boss because the ai is so god damn stupid at times. I read that titles affect their behaviour and it seems to work better and I set two of them up as defence. They seem to heal more, but since I didn't really think of titles affecting the artes you learn no one has any good healing spells so it's kind of...I miss Raine, Revitalize was the shit.
Edit: Is it better if I just switch to Normal mode? I mean there's so much shit to keep track of at once so I may be in over my head :lol
Also why is the AI so poor? They die constantly and in the last 3 bossfights it's been me controlling Sorey+whoever is armatized against the boss because the ai is so god damn stupid at times. I read that titles affect their behaviour and it seems to work better and I set two of them up as defence. They seem to heal more, but since I didn't really think of titles affecting the artes you learn no one has any good healing spells so it's kind of...I miss Raine
, Revitalize was the shit.Edit: Is it better if I just switch to Normal mode? I mean there's so much shit to keep track of at once so I may be in over my head :lol
texhnolyze
Banned
Oh my fucking god I hate this church dungeon so much. Whose bright-ass idea was it to design a dungeon with tight as fuck corridors with corners everywhere when the battle camera just fucks up constantly?
Also why is the AI so poor? They die constantly and in the last 3 bossfights it's been me controlling Sorey+whoever is armatized against the boss because the ai is so god damn stupid at times. I read that titles affect their behaviour and it seems to work better and I set two of them up as defence. They seem to heal more, but since I didn't really think of titles affecting the artes you learn no one has any good healing spells so it's kind of...I miss Raine
Edit: Is it better if I just switch to Normal mode? I mean there's so much shit to keep track of at once so I may be in over my head :lol
Oh yeah, I really hate that church dungeon as well. Lots of locked doors and backtracking. Combined with small corridors and messy camera, it's just a perfect worst dungeon in the game. I also hate the last dungeon which is pretty large, but fortunately no backtracking like the church dungeon.
Is it the most back-track heavy dungeon in the game? I don't mind huge dungeons, as long as there's minimal backtracking. I liked the Fire Temple, it had a balling soundtrack too, which helped.
texhnolyze
Banned
I believe so, as far as I remember. But then again, I didn't explore every single dungeons in the game. There are several optional dungeons that I've yet to explore, but I'm not into them (yet) for my first playthrough. The temples aren't too long and they have great soundtracks, so I don't dislike then.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
The game really picks up once you get to
Celestia
Just got to Rolance. Rain zones are always the best and the story seems to be picking up too. It's also kinda weird that Rose gets Alisha's clothes as a costume...? An apology from the devs for the bait and switch? Rose is a great character so far. Not necessarily better than Alisha, just different.
Having the other human be able to armatize is niiiiice, however
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I was just thinking after the NieR 2 trailer, how would things turn out if PlatinumGames developed the next Tales games with Tales staff directing.
Yes please. Or at least have them make the battle mechanics
Eh, not sure if it would work... unless they can make a competent AI system for your AI partners in which case YES PLEASE! >_>
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I would love to see their take on Tales of combat.
Yeah, really hate how games take this approach to allied AI. That approach being to make them suck. I think some do it because the way they've designed the game, it would be too easy if the AI was competent. But that just comes down to how they design things in the first place. If you design competent AI that doesn't break the game like God Eater: Burst for example then it's not an issue.
It enhances the game because it makes you feel like you are fighting alongside people with similar skill to yourself. Instead you get party members that cannot even reliably execute the mechanics they teach you in the first 10 minutes of the game.
EDIT: I just found this one GameFAQs
I'm going to try this out tomorrow to see if it makes a difference.
As long as everything about the series is maintained (sidequests, towns, skits, optional bosses, lengthy story, etc.) and they can develop some decent AI for party members I would totally be down for this.
Get Platinum composers on board as well for maximum awesomeness.
Earlier today though I was thinking about how Platinum could handle Kingdom Hearts.
Not really but you don't get a choice in the last one you do. (giant domain blocking one).
I did Fire -> Earth -> Water -> Wind (spoilers for the areas you find them in)
aka Fire (the first one you find), Earth (nearest one you can access to since I was doing as many of the side quests in Roland where I came across it), Water (Hyland), Wind (Western Gorge, aka the domain blocker)
Solid answer, thanks man.
Tales gets its battle systems right, but there are lots Tales games now and there will be many more in the future, so there's no harm in getting a developer like Platinum to take one crack at the series.
Also Platinum could help in more ways than just the combat...cutscenes, engine/graphics, music, maybe the script.
And Zelda could learn some things from Dark Souls, yes.
I've found a few discovery points that didn't trigger skits. I'm not sure what the criteria are. I guess they'll always be available later when you can unlock all skits (and won't make sense unless you remember the discovery they're talking about).
It depends on the party members and yes, they are available later
What's weird is that some don't trigger skits even though it's my first time through an area.
Oh, that's funny! Haha !
Kohaku's Satsugeki Bukouken was parodied by the same VA through Dark Turtlez in the JAP ver. of Zesti
I think the story is not as bad as what people think or just maybe the story build up is quite good. I'm still at Marlind so it's quite early in the game.
WickedLaharl
Member
Alright almost everything is starting to click. The battle system is fun and sense of adventure is the best since vesperia. I don't like dezel or edna but meebo, sorey, and rose are good.
Are there new composers here? Some tracks are good and remind me of legendia. 20hrs in and at the fire trial. Hoping i can get this beat by November 10th
Are there new composers here? Some tracks are good and remind me of legendia. 20hrs in and at the fire trial. Hoping i can get this beat by November 10th
Go Shiina who composed for Legendia.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I really wish Go Shiina had more stuff in the game. All his tracks here are really great, as opposed to Sakuraba's traditional decent to okay.
Zaveid's theme alone...
Zaveid's theme alone...
Go play God Eater 2 and pass away and ascend to heaven.
it has Go Shiina dubstep
Died to camera of doom/caster madness after an hour of exploration and great drops on Chaos. Seriously considered never touching the game again. JRPGs really need to rethink their save/checkpoint system, it's just annoying to lose all progress without a chance to get it back like Soulsborne games.
Isn't there a quick save?
Quick Save is your friend.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I would not mind at all if Go Shiina composed the sound track for the next Tales of game.
Absolutely love his work.
Absolutely love his work.
