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This was announced before Overwatch even released.
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Team Fortress 2: Meet Your Match Update (Competitive Mode)
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This was announced before Overwatch even released.
Thank you. Everyone rides overwatch so hard it's unbelievable.
I mean, even if Valve cooked this up in a month to compete with Overwatch, it's only fair that they get to steal the one aspect that's unique to Blizzard's version of their game.
KLoWn
Member
Maybe you should take a trip to the TF2 sub-reddit. Almost all they do is talk about how superior TF2 is to Overwatch, to the point where it has become pathetic.
Slime Scholar
Member
To be fair, reddit communities always seem really fanatical and obsessive so that's kind of par for the course.
People who think this is a response to Overwatch are hilariously misinformed, but yeah, push back from hardcore TF2 communities is ridiculous. Personally I like both games and am sick of reading about the perceived rivalry between Blizzard's new thing and a 9 year old game.
I don't care about what the subreddit does, and in any event I also think TF2 is much better than overwatch. I also hope you aren't trying to say that overwatch fans don't do the same thing, because i've seen loads of it all over the internet including here.
I'm not even sure why you think a community specifically about TF2 wouldn't circlejerk their game????
Does it get more than that one awful map?
DOPE
PrinnyBomb
Member
interesting. havent launched tf2 in years but might check it out
Teknopathetic
Member
Nobody here cares about what people are doing on the TF2 subreddit so I'm not sure why you would bring it up.
CrookedRain
Member
After putting over 100 hours into Overwatch, I still think TF2 is a better game, but after sinking so many hours into TF2 years ago, I just wanted something new to play. Not sure if this will bring me back or not.
Was I the only one that read this with Lucio's voice?
Azure Dream
Member
It was nice for a while, but I wish they would stop bolting things into TF2 and make a full sequel. It's why I've fallen for Overwatch: there's a lot of TF2 in there, but it all feels fresh and modern.
Plus there's not 30 Scout bats to keep track of.
Plus there's not 30 Scout bats to keep track of.
TF2 is a game as a service with a full in game economy. Valve just can't stop supporting it anymore then they could DOTA2 or CSGO.
King Mystery
Member
I just passed 2800 hours played, nearly all of it in 2Fort. Casual mode could be a fun way to shake things up.
Why would you share this?
how?!
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Really, what's the difference between this mode and the usual one?
torre_avenue
Banned
How were those 3 games of ctf_2fort?
BaronMonstro
Member
Hard to believe it's finally (very nearly) here.
After all the hints and teases, it's finally (oh so very nearly) here.
After all the hints and teases, it's finally (oh so very nearly) here.
It's a ranked/ladder mode with a defined set of rules.
torre_avenue
Banned
Less bitching about autobalance, random critical hits, unbalanced teams, etc etc.
More communication.
Less quitters.
Hopefully, more fun.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Restricted to two game types (attack/defend and control points)
Pellet spread is fixed
Games don't start until everyone is connected and flags as 'ready' for the match to begin.
Wins/Losses are recorded in your personal MMR, and the system will try to pair you with opponents within a certain range of that so you get consistently challenging matches.
It's a pretty different game when it's 6v6, too. You really have to communicate with teams to watch flank routes on defense and coordinate pushes on offense. The maps are usually designed so that you have to watch between 3-4 routes on every single point. If you don't play your role well you're going to get crushed and lose.
HyperCubed4
Member
About fucking time.
My heart wants there to be a monumental balance update for every weapon to compensate for no weapon restrictions. My mind knows there won't be.
My heart wants there to be a monumental balance update for every weapon to compensate for no weapon restrictions. My mind knows there won't be.
RandomExpletive
Member
Pyro VS Heavy, how odd...
I guess they ARE the least-picked classes in 6s, wonder if thats what they're going for
I guess they ARE the least-picked classes in 6s, wonder if thats what they're going for
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Thanks Jackie Boy.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Between Gun Mettle and Tough Break almost every unlock has been modified. I hardly think Valve is going to stop making changes after MyM launches.
HyperCubed4
Member
No no, I understand. I meant tomorrow, there would be a huge revamp of every weapon to prepare for MyM.
Wishful thinking, I know. I'd certainly hope the balance changes would happen eventually, if not tomorrow.
jediyoshi
Member
But is it more or less desperate than this post wherein actual competitive MM has been in beta for months?
Dreams-Visions
Member
you sick freak
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
STFU and pocket me, EM.
TheRedSnifit
Member
I feel like it should be noted that competitive TF2 is bigger than ever. It's not even vaguely near Counterstrike, but matches are actually drawing 1-2 thousand viewers for the first time in ever.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Please no Heavy buff. MatchmakIng meta is already to run two of them to mid.
Pyro VS Heavy, how odd...
I guess they ARE the least-picked classes in 6s, wonder if thats what they're going for
Spy and Engineer are both picked less.
King Mystery
Member
CTF is the best mode and 2Fort is the best map.
You should play it like I do.
Join an "all talk" server, go Demoman with Scottish Resistance + Ali Baba's Wee Booties (for extra health), cover the grate in stickies and just listen to the other team rage uncontrollably because they can't kill you. It's very entertaining.
I get 60+ kill streaks consistently with this method. One time, I came close to dominating the entire opposing team on a 32 player server.
CertifiedFP
Member
If it were just cosmetics do you think people would be so vocal against TF2?
It's all the unbalanced weapons and shite that Valve keeps adding in that alter classes.
When TF2 first launched... The thought process of identifying an enemy was as simple as "See enemy, identify silhouette, enemy 100% identified" you knew EXACTLY what that character was capable of.
Then eventually more and more weapons started rolling out next to cosmetics that added way too many variables to the sandbox. NOW, the thought-process, for example, is... "See enemy, attempt to identify silhouette through the stack of hats and other bollocks adding or subtracting from their figure, attempt to figure out what weapons they are carrying, subset of what this enemy could be potentially identified." Honestly the best course of action in TF2 has become to let the enemy throw the first stone so you can figure out what subclass they are now.
There's too much of a mental-stack going on in TF2. I don't know if this Demoman in front of me is going to blow me up or shank me like someone using Commando in MW2. Back at launch there was ONE set of possible actions a Demoman could use, and you didn't have to account for whatever randumb shit got thrown into the mix. Valve should have just added new characters to TF2 instead of new weapons, seriously. I could think of two new complete characters from the junk added in the original The Medic Update that would add depth to the game rather than shit it up.
Overwatch's cosmetics all make thematic sense for their characters, they don't alter silhouettes (THE BIG ONE.) generally, and the ones that do are still easily identifiable as a specific character since unlike hats, skins are linked to specific characters. Furthermore, Blizzard isn't going to add new weapons to existing characters, but instead make new characters that do new things.
Team Fortress 2 post Mann Co Store has absolutely no artistic integrity whatsoever. Overwatch is a shining beacon for what TF2 shoulda, woulda, coulda become.
tl;dr
Azure Dream
Member
I didn't say stop supporting it, but the basic design of the game is almost 9 years old at this point. I would really like them to devote the focus of their efforts elsewhere by now.
Some of y'all are really overselling the difficulty, or even necessity, of identifying TF2's weaponry.
Is demo carrying a big circle? Yes -> He can charge. No -> Caution: stickies.
All his other weapons are just variants of explosives. You catch them or you don't. You stay in melee range or you don't.
Is that a soldier? Avoid marginally different rockets. Shoot until dead.
Oh no that pyro has a flamethrower/back burner/degreaser/phlog/rainblower/whatever!
Guess I'll have to stay out of range and shoot until dead.
They have a melee variant too! Guess I'll have to stay out of range and shoot until dead.
But the flaregun/shotgun/popgun/whatgun! Guess I'll have to dodge a bit and shoot until dead.
In TF2 there's projectiles, hitscan, melee and then there's stuns and damage over time. Guaranteed crit weapons feel cheap but so does a sticky trapped doorway or camping sniper.
It's an online FPS, you will die from people shooting you with things. You will die from random spam. But I guess it's nice to blame that crucial 6% switch speed bonus or whatever when one yolo's half the enemy team.
At the end of the day, I am disappointed Valve ruined the principles and purity of TF2. But an Engineer wearing a giant banana hat is still quite obviously an Engineer. He just has questionable taste.
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Is demo carrying a big circle? Yes -> He can charge. No -> Caution: stickies.
All his other weapons are just variants of explosives. You catch them or you don't. You stay in melee range or you don't.
Is that a soldier? Avoid marginally different rockets. Shoot until dead.
Oh no that pyro has a flamethrower/back burner/degreaser/phlog/rainblower/whatever!
Guess I'll have to stay out of range and shoot until dead.
They have a melee variant too! Guess I'll have to stay out of range and shoot until dead.
But the flaregun/shotgun/popgun/whatgun! Guess I'll have to dodge a bit and shoot until dead.
In TF2 there's projectiles, hitscan, melee and then there's stuns and damage over time. Guaranteed crit weapons feel cheap but so does a sticky trapped doorway or camping sniper.
It's an online FPS, you will die from people shooting you with things. You will die from random spam. But I guess it's nice to blame that crucial 6% switch speed bonus or whatever when one yolo's half the enemy team.
At the end of the day, I am disappointed Valve ruined the principles and purity of TF2. But an Engineer wearing a giant banana hat is still quite obviously an Engineer. He just has questionable taste.
In hats, bananas are delicious