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Team Fortress 2 Official PC Thread. SO. WORTH. IT.
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Suburban Cowboy
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this game is not like halo or other fps where novices are fucked simply because they dont know the maps and weapon spawns. You start with all the weapons you need, all it really takes is to learn them (fairly simple)bune duggy said:
It didnt take me long at all to start owning at TFC and I typically am not great at fps.
ThaiGrocer
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edit: don't worry about the balance issues you may notice. Valve is watching us closely as we speak. Every mouse gesture, every tap on the keyboard... stats only of course :lol !
I ended up accumulating nearly 20 hours so far. Still is not enough. Anybody else got that feeling? My only issue is an old Valve skeleton: freezing at "retrieving server info...". Apparently that's a hardware issue that can only go away by adding more $$money$$. Moooore moooneeey.
I ended up accumulating nearly 20 hours so far. Still is not enough. Anybody else got that feeling? My only issue is an old Valve skeleton: freezing at "retrieving server info...". Apparently that's a hardware issue that can only go away by adding more $$money$$. Moooore moooneeey.
bishoptl said:
They're a necessary evil I think, pubs would stalemate WAY too often if the respawns weren't present, and didn't autoadjust based on who has what captured
Sudden Death is seriously fucking stupid though. They need to change it so Sudden Death is 'sudden death' on next capture, not some sort of retarded no respawning dm brawl
Victrix said:
Sudden Death is stupid, my one critique of the game so far.
I was in a pub where our team was up 6-1 in caps on Fort2, it went to sudden death and we eventually ended up losing. Another example was in sudden death where the opposition had only 1 surviving engineer camped in the base, the timer ran out and it was a 'stalemate'
Shouldn't the game judge that we have more people alive, thus we win sudden death? And if the cap limit isn't reached, shouldn't the team with the higher cap score win?
RiskyChris
Banned
Victrix said:
Stalemating is fine.
Either remove spawn timer, or have people spawn in waves (is this done already?). As it stands, poor death distribution can really fuck a team up.
ThaiGrocer said:
I hope so
Despite my best efforts to figure out a way to make the Pyro not suck:
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If it counted assists for the Pyro, it *might* be closer. I've watched my k/d over several games with him, and it's often reasonable with assists counted, so I know I'm at least helping score more kills for the team.
But holy christ he is USELESS on so many objectives on so many maps. Any situation I'd be out there on the field as a Pyro, I'd be wishing I was a Soldier, Demo, or Heavy, so I could actually contribute
Another issue - a Medic can help those three classes in battle FAR more safely than a Pyro, who he has to get into close range combat with, there's no other way for the Pyro to do damage.
And I spend about half my time using the Shotgun with the Pyro, compared with the others, where their primary weapon is, well, their primary weapon.
Ah well. I'll keep trying, maybe there's something I'm still missing.
edit: one other argh-pyro rant, his flamethrower blows ass for shooting up or down, which is fucking irritating when you're flaming some guy on a ledge 5 feet above you and you can't hit him, or a sniper in the window on well, and again, you can't hit him
edit again: average kills and average points are the same sort of whacked stat display, pyro is lower than the others, despite more playtime, and lots of deliberate effort on my part to play to his strengths - even with assists counted, he's still not great
Teknopathetic
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I both like and dislike Sudden Death. I like that rounds don't go FOREVER with both teams camping up. But I also don't like teams that just camp up in normal time in hopes that they can score a win in sudden death (because they're pussies).
Respawn timer's not toooo big of a deal. down to 10 seconds wouldn't be so bad.
And I recorded some videos of me nubbing it up but they were only 3v3/4v4 or so super late night.
Respawn timer's not toooo big of a deal. down to 10 seconds wouldn't be so bad.
And I recorded some videos of me nubbing it up but they were only 3v3/4v4 or so super late night.
ickingfudiot
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Cryect said:
Yeah except teams can go into extreme turtle mode if they really want to. We had two caps on gravelpit and the red team busted out 6 engineers, 3 medics and 2 soldiers on C and we had no chance of combating that. As soon as you take out a turret another eng is leaping over to reconstruct it and being healed the whole time (not to mention there's at least one eng on every turret chain wrenching it and being healed) with soldiers covering fire.
Also there's this tendency for teams in sudden death to super turtle, it's really boring.
Would probably help if they had class limits and in general would make for more interesting game play on PUG servers so not everyone is one class or something. Heh, irritates me when my team is completely unbalanced to be pure defense or something else worthless like half spies. Also seen stuff like a team going all demo's on like Well for the startup capture and they just inundate the entry ways with grenades as they cap (probably wouldn't work well against an organized team who knows to precharge invulns etc but with pickup it just results in a lot of instant gibs from grenades hitting or exploding nearby).
In my own defense, it was during a pretty heavy firefight. Everyone else was dead and I nearly had an ubercharge, so I just switched to the next red thing I saw and used it in the hope that it wouldn't be wasted. I think if that happens again, I'm just going to run and try to get away before the thing wears off.
Suburban Cowboy
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Doesnt sound a hell of a lot different than TFC, you just gotta figure out how to use him. I havent played TF2, but based on my prior experience, maybe this can help:Victrix said:
-never stand still with flame thrower. Constantly circle strafe around the target while your flames blind them. A HW is defenseless against this
-People are claiming Scout is over powered because of his shotgun. No shame in using yours
-Stick to defense, you can get the drop on enemies more often than not
Suburban Cowboy said:
Tried all of those and more besides
Trust me, I'm not new to to this, I've played TF since TF, and fps stuff even longer
I still think its a weak class relative to the others
But whatever, I'm sure Valve is monitoring the hell out of stats, they'll tinker with stuff down the line, it's not like I can't play others that are more effective
Pre-ordered this after seeing the good impressions, and I'm very impressed myself. It's got some nice touches and is very fun to play.
On the pyro, so far he seems a bit weak in comparison. In TFC it would create chaos as your vision was greatly obscured but in this the enemy doesn't seem to have that much trouble. If I have to get that close to take on the enemy I'd rather have something that mows them down (HWGuy) instead of the damage the flamethrower is doing
On the pyro, so far he seems a bit weak in comparison. In TFC it would create chaos as your vision was greatly obscured but in this the enemy doesn't seem to have that much trouble. If I have to get that close to take on the enemy I'd rather have something that mows them down (HWGuy) instead of the damage the flamethrower is doing
Joe Molotov
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lockii said:
I just shoot at anyone that looks suspicious (i.e. anyone that's running toward me :lol ).
MrNyarlathotep
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cbodom said:
After playing a bunch, the only thing I really wish they would change is show how many people are in each class on the class select screen, so you dont have to tab over it to find out what the most useful role to pick is going to be.
Ferrio said:
He is for sure, the Scout is actually pretty absurdly dangerous if you're skilled - his low health really is his only weak point, turrets can tear him up, and if he gets spotted by a heavy on open ground, he's also in trouble.
Difference is, most situations that are bad for him, he has the mobility to escape or avoid, the Pyro does not, and his range is a severe disadvantage.
On defense, I'd rather be playing a Demo, Engineer, or Medic with a Heavy partner.
The Pyro sort of feels like the 'Heavy' version of the soldier or demo. He's easy to hit with, but his short range is crippling.
In comparison, the Heavy has his speed to limit his effectiveness, but he is devastating for area defense, and a house on offense with a medic along - the Pyro is neither
I dunno. I have to work WAY harder when playing a Pyro to feel like I'm being useful for my team at all, and frequently I feel useless.
In other news, my random wish for the day: No Medic button allowed if you're at full health, and a limit on how often you can mash it. I hate wasting time looking for tards who just want a medic along to r0xx0r. Guess what - Medics seek you out if you're good, or your class is vital for clearing a defensive obstacle, not because you can mash the medic button more than the guy nearby who actually needs healing.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Victrix said:
Thats not as annoying as healing soldiers who run away from the front lines as soon as you start healing them until they get full health, and dont even fire at the guys shooting you while youre healing them :/
RiskyChris
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:lol
RiskyChris
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Jube3 said:
:lol
cbodom said:
Learn to play as a team.... It's called Team Fortress 2 for a reason you know. It's far more team based than TFC or whatever ever was.
Some of the defences in Dustbowl Stage 2 have been godawful for me. They're so focused on defending the entrance that I can manage to sneak behind everyone and cap the point just out of range of SGs. I then scoot off again and capture the 2nd point about 10 seconds later.:lol
I've been playing with a friend Soldier + Medic and it really is the best combo. HWG really can't handle sentry guns, etc. well, but the soldier excels as knocking them out, as well as general killing. The only thing that sucks is four rockets.
Hopefully no one here will give out our secret tactic (ZombieSupaStar and ElectricBlue)
Hopefully no one here will give out our secret tactic (ZombieSupaStar and ElectricBlue)
Teknopathetic
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"BTW One thing I'm inherently bad at is detecting opposition spies, I can only be certain of a spy if I actually see them transform in front of me, or something obviously blatant, yet I'm sure there's better ways to tell this kind of thing, Tre seems rather good at it"
Shoot people in the face. as a demoman, if the grenade explodes, they're a spy, if not, then they're cool. Shoot everyone in the face. You never know when they're around.
Shoot people in the face. as a demoman, if the grenade explodes, they're a spy, if not, then they're cool. Shoot everyone in the face. You never know when they're around.
Looks like my problem is fixed in the last patch... Now I can play without worries!
medic is fun!
http://steamcommunity.com/id/psy18/stats/TF2
medic is fun!
http://steamcommunity.com/id/psy18/stats/TF2
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