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Team Fortress 2 Official PC Thread. SO. WORTH. IT.
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Blizzard said:Oh yeah.
As long as everyone is in complaining mode, the only maps that I feel really make me want to ragequit when they come up for 15 minutes are hydro/well/badlands/granary/pretty much anything else with multiple two-way capture points.
Bummer! Those are my favorite style. I like the back and forth since both teams really get to play a lot more aggressively than they would in a payload or static attack/defend.
What don't you like about them--I'm curious because it seems a lot of people are pretty down of that style.
Well I guess it's time for me to stop being nice to you.Twig said:
Also I don't like lazytown (which last I saw was still on the server). And I like 2fort! Does that still count for horrible taste?
I don't want to get into a big discussion since Twig will insult me and make me cry, but I think some main reasons I dislike them are:Boonoo said:
* It often seems like they're a stalemate (in some cases all the way to sudden death and then a stalemate from sudden death) or a stomp, and can last 15-20 minutes if I'm not mistaken. Hydro used to have the no-spawn-timer for either team as well which didn't really help, plus it has that status popup every single map segment change. For some reason that drives me nuts and I always forget to press enter or whatever the key is that makes it vanish. Changing segments every minute or two feels weird to me. Hydro also has places where it's just one or two chokepoints and everyone sits there and somehow it's worse than corridors in other maps.
* Those maps are usually very long and open and as a heavy or class without teleporters, I spend 15-20 seconds spawning, a minute or two walking to the battle, and then I die due to a sniper or a pro scout.
* Addendum to the previous one: They seem tailor-made for pro scouts to run all over the place, shoot people, and capture points back and forth. Slow classes or people who suck at aiming (like me) may be out of luck.
Hydro is really the only one that actually makes me want to leave the server rather than play it for 20 minutes though. I can just goof off on the other maps and probably have fun if I don't feel like I can be helpful. It doesn't help that often teams end up pretty stacked on the GAF server, but I guess that's a problem on every server. I know sometimes people just joke about stacking, and sometimes there are even games, but I think I have some saved scoreboards I can dig up with stuff like only three people on one team having any points AT ALL.
Lazytown, convoy and best in class are toast. They're not on the server anymore.Blizzard said:Well I guess it's time for me to stop being nice to you.
Also I don't like lazytown (which last I saw was still on the server). And I like 2fort! Does that still count for horrible taste?
Blizzard said:Well I guess it's time for me to stop being nice to you.
Also I don't like lazytown (which last I saw was still on the server). And I like 2fort! Does that still count for horrible taste?
I don't want to get into a big discussion since Twig will insult me and make me cry, but I think some main reasons I dislike them are:
* It often seems like they're a stalemate (in some cases all the way to sudden death and then a stalemate from sudden death) or a stomp, and can last 15-20 minutes if I'm not mistaken. Hydro used to have the no-spawn-timer for either team as well which didn't really help, plus it has that status popup every single map segment change. For some reason that drives me nuts and I always forget to press enter or whatever the key is that makes it vanish. Changing segments every minute or two feels weird to me. Hydro also has places where it's just one or two chokepoints and everyone sits there and somehow it's worse than corridors in other maps.
* Those maps are usually very long and open and as a heavy or class without teleporters, I spend 15-20 seconds spawning, a minute or two walking to the battle, and then I die due to a sniper or a pro scout.
* Addendum to the previous one: They seem tailor-made for pro scouts to run all over the place, shoot people, and capture points back and forth. Slow classes or people who suck at aiming (like me) may be out of luck.
Hydro is really the only one that actually makes me want to leave the server rather than play it for 20 minutes though. I can just goof off on the other maps and probably have fun if I don't feel like I can be helpful. It doesn't help that often teams end up pretty stacked on the GAF server, but I guess that's a problem on every server. I know sometimes people just joke about stacking, and sometimes there are even games, but I think I have some saved scoreboards I can dig up with stuff like only three people on one team having any points AT ALL.
Ha! I forgot you liked heavy. I can see your point about it being tricky for a heavy especially in something like badlands. But the others are more heavy friendly--granary and freight especially. Fastlane is also bad for heavy.
Really it's only at mid point that's scout friendly. The last point is always nice for heavies (attacking and defending) and the second points are usually fairly tight. They do tend to have longer respawn times, though--but those are necessary for fluid back and forth.
I agree with you about hydro--it seems to always devolve into two sentry camps. I'm not a big fan of it.
I'd say that I tend to like the five capture point maps because when you get real even teams you bounce back and forth between points nicely, people are too busy capping and moving to really hunker down. It's when teams get stacked, I think, that they push into stalemates (when it's a slight stack anyway, not a pure blow out, but one team is always on offence and one defense). It's when they turn into another straight a/d that they're at their worst.
Yeah, a lot of these maps aren't too heavy friendly. I'd say that granary and freight aren't too bad for a heavy--there are some nice closed in areas that heavies could do really well in. Badlands is probably one of the biggest, and it seems to be drawing a lot of your complaints.
Hydro is a bit different; I'm not too big a fan of it either.
Twig said:
I'm playing SMG2!
Kuro Madoushi
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Boonoo said:
Hah! Tell sciz that
I it sucks not being able to ambush heavies who know what they're doing from behind with a melee weapon (certain dogs chasing cars notwithstanding), but I like how they're a lot more useful now. They're still vulnerable to excellent scouts, headshots, and backstabs, but they can get the jump on demos and pyros now.
Freakin ragin tonight. Steel with my doombass team.... >:/ I thought we were going to lose, but we came out on top!
5 point CP maps are a terrible combination of long respawns and long walks, and aren't particularly fun no matter what class you are. Well is the best of the stock maps, and I'd still rather play the CTF version.
They wouldn't be so bad in general if they were structured more nonlinearly like Steel instead of being flat strips of land.
They wouldn't be so bad in general if they were structured more nonlinearly like Steel instead of being flat strips of land.
Kuro Madoushi
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Sciz said:
I'm sure they'll release the boxing gloves that make you run faster sooner or later. That should ease the fattie's speed. OR he can eat fewer sandviches
edit: EVERYONE SPAM INVITE TWIG!
fallengorn
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Where's panic? I want panic!
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I was on the server yesterday, haven't played TF2 in ages. Will play again if the GAF server is populated though. The lag (~150 ms) is pretty tolerable, except for playing Soldier. I'll just stick to Medic for the moment anyways, so lag isn't an issue.
Two hard crashes last night. I don't find my card going over 70-75 degrees C at full load, which is rather cool for my old sounds-like-a-turbo-jet X1900. I took off AA and a few FX weeks back to put it under less stress. This never happens in other games, either. I haven't seen a BSOD or random crash for more than two years straight.
And I'll be blunt. The demo axe kinda sucks. I could do more damage with an ubersaw.
And I'll be blunt. The demo axe kinda sucks. I could do more damage with an ubersaw.
Kuro Madoushi
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Boonoo said:
I've seen enough scary melee demomen to last me a lifetime...
The good ones and the competitive ones are scary good when it comes to distance, charging, swinging.
The range on those weapons is pretty insane...
Lionheart1337
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Steel sucks.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Blizzard said:
Learn to charge? Not being sarcastic. Someone like Aloysius...he's been going axeman demo a lot recently, and I always think I've strafed enough to the side to dodge it safely...and I think wrong
Oreo...you were working on Sunday?! What's with you Yanks and working on Sundays when it's a holiday on Monday as well? :/ And seriously, soon as Java's gone, every one drops out. Damn you Java! >:/ Maybe one of use needs to use your alias or something! I nominate n0b!
Hah! Sciz, maybe we should put the server info on every one of our posts!
68.232.178.184:27015
Add that to your favorites tab.
Kuro Madoushi said:Learn to charge? Not being sarcastic. Someone like Aloysius...he's been going axeman demo a lot recently, and I always think I've strafed enough to the side to dodge it safely...and I think wrong
The only class that gives me difficulties as a demo. They just won't die!
Kuro Madoushi said:Hah! Sciz, maybe we should put the server info on every one of our posts!
68.232.178.184:27015
Add that to your favorites tab.
So this is the GAF server? I'm gonna be on tonight in about... now. I usually rotate Soldier-Medic-Pyro, with the occasional Heavy or Sniper thrown in, when needed.
Lez do dis.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
It's only really active when Java's on. :\okno said:
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Orellio said:
I'm really ready for it to hit, I'm getting burned out on some of the bad attitudes I keep running into, and wouldn't mind something to distract the "pros" for a little while. If not the new toys, then at least they'll be screaming into the mic, "WE DON'T NEED 12 ENGINEERS! THEY'RE JUST ACHIEVEMENTS! STOP HAVING FUN!"
TF2 needs more of this!
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8304/crocsniper2.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6113/shellshocker.jpg
:lol
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8304/crocsniper2.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6113/shellshocker.jpg
:lol
Kuro Madoushi
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Twig said:
Coming from someone who ignores spam invites and only joins for short stretches of time, you can't talk! >:/
Was there another update today? I didn't catch what was updated...
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