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Team Fortress 2 |OT3| - Murder-based Hat Simulator
- Thread starter Yeef
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I kinda agree with Soka still, Yeef. I know it's the least important stat, but I kinda wish it also counted assists or even just points earned:death ratio. I'd have to see how the numbers work out to be sure.
I missed the Heavy wars last page. All I have to add is that the Heavy in a lot of ways is like the Medic. Most of the excitement in his gameplay comes from staying alive long enough to unleash his force on the enemy team. And he's the second most prioritized target for Spies and Snipers after the Medic, but gets killed more often because he's slower and his gameplay leads him into moments of unavoidable tunnel vision.
I mean, if you're going to complain about Heavy, you should also complain about Dead Ringer Spies more.
Edit: Oh, you compare class to class, not just person to person. Ok, then it shouldn't matter too much, unless a bug causes wartime to get Medic since his KDR on Demo breaks the charts.
I missed the Heavy wars last page. All I have to add is that the Heavy in a lot of ways is like the Medic. Most of the excitement in his gameplay comes from staying alive long enough to unleash his force on the enemy team. And he's the second most prioritized target for Spies and Snipers after the Medic, but gets killed more often because he's slower and his gameplay leads him into moments of unavoidable tunnel vision.
I mean, if you're going to complain about Heavy, you should also complain about Dead Ringer Spies more.
Edit: Oh, you compare class to class, not just person to person. Ok, then it shouldn't matter too much, unless a bug causes wartime to get Medic since his KDR on Demo breaks the charts.
natethegreat409
Member
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Actually, I change my mind about the ratio thing. If you're counting Medic to Medic, and you count kills instead of kills+assists, then Java is far and above the best Medic on the server and the rest of us will have negative KDR when compared.
Gratz man.Has nothing to do with TF2... But this is the only part of GAF I really communicate with.
I passed my last college exam today! Come Thursday, I will be an RN graduate.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Might need a new thread soon enough.
SteveWinwood
Member
oh god this is the worst shit on tf2 bar none
I stopped using the DR long ago. I feel like only lazy spies use it. If you're getting caught in the cross fire so much, might have to rethink classes.
Point. I'll just tell them to go Heavy.
I don't think caught in the crossfire is as much of an issue as "Hi, I just revealed my position by killing someone, destroying equipment, or whatever, and even though you know exactly where I am and maybe I am on fire, it is still going to take like 8 seconds to kill me, and I am mostly/completely invisible, and I might get away regardless."
MatthewB92
Member
My degreaser is ready.
Airblast is your friend. You don't know how infuriating it is to be using the DR and have a Pyro airblast you for what feels like an eternity.
MatthewB92
Member
Great feeling.
It should also be noted that if you're a Pyro against a DR spy, you've got more of a chance to kill the Spy than him getting away.
Unless you're being stupid and airblasting him away so he gets out of flame range, then that's your problem. And Spies can't attack. Their only option it to run, and Pyros have pretty damn high movement speed. And it's not only Pyros that can win. It's also Scouts with their milk or even snipers with Jarate.
In a vacuum, maybe. Realistically, the spy probably has teammates around. Even if he doesn't, it's going to take 7 seconds or more to take him out. The biggest issue with the dead ringer is that no matter if the spy is good or bad they can waste a big chunk of your time.
I'd say this is usually more an issue with map design *cough payload cough* than class performance or what have you. Of course the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Oh, I'm quite familiar with that. My issue is that you can have a dead ringer spy up against a wall, on fire, airblasted, and if I recall correctly it takes upwards of 3-4 axetinguisher crits (more?) to kill it. You might still fail to kill the spy, and even a heavy would have presumably died from the axetinguisher in that time frame.
*edit* Also:
Pyro's movement speed is exactly the same as that of spy's. Did they take the pyro set bonus out? The set bonus would be the only thing that would make a pyro faster, and you probably won't run into that. The only classes fast enough to catch a spy are scouts and medics, aside from a crazy weapon effect like equalizer soldier or a demo jumping/charging. You might be able to kill from a distance, but not with the dead ringer.
natethegreat409
Member
If I'm not Pyro, I don't waste my time trying to Chase a DR around. Like Yeef said, it takes up too much of my time. I feel like it is better if I stay on the front and push/defend.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
A useless post to fill the post count for the |OT4| to be posted.
Cloudius12
Member
The damage reduction is ridiculous on DR. I once saved a lvl 3 sentry from a Heavy and soldier barrage with my DR.
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I passed my last college exam today! Come Thursday, I will be an RN graduate.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Pfft people like you give the pussy douche ringer spies a sense of security and confidence and that is why you're all bad.
A scout can out run a spy. A pyro can set EM on fire. A sniper can piss on them.
You would think with all this 'spy check' reminders that people would do it on the GAF server. But no. Only defeatist selfish players that don't even call spies out or run them down.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Mine too. :-(
Jake Tower
Banned
May we call you Focker?I passed my last college exam today! Come Thursday, I will be an RN graduate.
and whoever kills the dead ringer spy should have crits until the spy respawns.
SteveWinwood
Member
If you die as a dr spy, you should die in real life.
Same if you use mini sentries.
Same if you use mini sentries.
Unless they are using the PHOLOSGTINATOR
Professor Beef
Banned
You also shouldn't be allowed to heal or collect ammo unless you go back to spawn.
Dr. Pangloss
Member
Then make me your friend.
natethegreat409
Member
Yea, running around for 10 seconds as a soldier trying to find a DR spy is pretty pointless in my eyes.
Esp if it is just an average spy who isn't really doing much damage to the team.
RumblingRosco
Member
DR spies with Spycicle are the most heinous of motherfuckers in TF2. I love heavies, minisentries, etc. It's just DR + Spycicle that turns me into Quote jr.
Oh, and I too enjoy getting in on the airblasting DRed spies.
Oh, and I too enjoy getting in on the airblasting DRed spies.
This is my calling in TF2. Don't care if it takes all 200 of my ammo to airblast him repeatedly.
Yeah fuck this loadout. I need to flame him for 2 seconds to even reveal if he's a spy, then he just pops the DR and runs away for another 8 seconds.
There was a guy in the server a week ago with the name DR. Spycicle Enforcer. He was nonstop trolling with that loadout.
Am I the only one getting disappointed by the lack of major updates this year?
By this time last year we had the Community Map pack which gave us 3 new maps, the Shogun Pack with 4 new weapons, and the Hatless Update that gave us another map and a bunch of balance changes for existing weapons. Between the Third Community Contribution Update and the Shogun pack I wouldn't be surprised if we got about the same amount of hats/misc items last year as this year.
Now that TF2 is free to play you would think that getting out new content would be a high priority. The weekly bug fixes/new hats are nice and everything, but it isn't exactly something that's going to draw new players or get a lot of existing free players to convert to paid players. I know that with the way Valve operates that they can't just tell more of their employees to work on TF2, and it looks like a big update is on the horizon with Meet the Pyro/The Second Saxxys, but it's just been such a mediocre year for TF2.
By this time last year we had the Community Map pack which gave us 3 new maps, the Shogun Pack with 4 new weapons, and the Hatless Update that gave us another map and a bunch of balance changes for existing weapons. Between the Third Community Contribution Update and the Shogun pack I wouldn't be surprised if we got about the same amount of hats/misc items last year as this year.
Now that TF2 is free to play you would think that getting out new content would be a high priority. The weekly bug fixes/new hats are nice and everything, but it isn't exactly something that's going to draw new players or get a lot of existing free players to convert to paid players. I know that with the way Valve operates that they can't just tell more of their employees to work on TF2, and it looks like a big update is on the horizon with Meet the Pyro/The Second Saxxys, but it's just been such a mediocre year for TF2.
Just tried out the wrangled mini troll on a public server. I didn't know they had limited ammo!
I tried the same thing tonight
it would totally work on the jank
This is going to be nuts. I hardly ever play spy.
Has nothing to do with TF2... But this is the only part of GAF I really communicate with.
I passed my last college exam today! Come Thursday, I will be an RN graduate.
Congrats Nate! Now you can tell people to bend over and cough with slightly less slapping!
Slapmyass! Zis is NOT a trick. </spy>
RumblingRosco
Member
I tried the same thing tonight
it would totally work on the jank
I've used it before. It does work, and it gets more verbal bitching than anything else I've ever seen. It's +1 to my troll meter, and I'm pretty terrible with it!
Java, just spend the entire game doing nothing but fucking with the enemy sniper. If you keep him busy/dead then that's all you need to do. Backstab him constantly until he puts on a shield, then get the ambassador and headshot his sniping ass to death from close range.
Welp, I'm looking forward to my first highlander in a couple weeks, hoping I get picked. I just feel bad that I'm actually, based on the current system, considered to be a relatively high score. I guess that's fair considering I put Heavy as my #1 and if I get it, I'll be the truly unbeatable BB Heavy.
ArtistDude88
Member
Quick! Someone slip Java the SparkNotes for playing Spy!
Personally, I would equip my Ambassador and DR and Spy snipe through the highlander match
I still claim the auto-aim on mini sentries for hitting snipers and disrupting their aim is hilarious (unless they're using that new cozy camper thing that I don't have).
Java, remember you can just kill a sniper in 2-3 close range bodyshots with the enforcer or normal spy pistol, I think. Or if you insist on using ambassador, just make sure you get close enough to hit the first headshot and not miss a bodyshot. I don't really recommend it when you can troll with the enforcer instead.
Also I don't have a spycicle.
I need to look up whether it's difficult to craft since all 6 backpage pages are full and I don't want to buy more room.Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
This is why you guys are bad.
It's not YOUR time it's team time. He can backstab 2 or more people - spawn time. He can sap engie shit - longer to front line. He can stab a medic - longer time to charge and push.
Far as I'm concerned, non spy checkers deserve no heals.
natethegreat409
Member
I'm just a F2P baddie and I have no problem with it.