Julia/Michelle? Yes. Jaycee? No thanks.
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Tekken |OT2| Pulse of the Regionally Discriminated Knuckleheads
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Julia/Michelle? Yes. Jaycee? No thanks.
GrayFoxPL
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Yeah JC is awesome.
speedwagon_
Banned
This ^ I feel like they made Julia fresh again and adding a female wrestler to the roster helped with variety and you still had that classic playstyle in Michelle for those vets that want their vanilla Chang back.
T6 and TTT2 Julia are still the same character with the same play-styles. Her getting some new moves doesn't make her a brand new character the same way Steve getting new moves like PKB in T6 don't make him a new character in T6 from Dr. Her situation is a far cry from Tag1 -> T4 Jin. If Julia is coming back in T7 she's not gonna have her animations regressed to pre-TTT2 era.
speedwagon_
Banned
Via Purifico
Banned
Make Jaycee her own character with more original moves and keep Julia. Michelle isn't coming back unless it's tag games so I would prefer a pure chang.
Yeah, she's a close just like Tiger/Alex/Forest/etc.
So a Devil Jin / Regular Jin scenario? That means making a completely brand new movelist for the same character. TTT2 Julia has the same core moves, strengths, weaknesses, and flowcharts as T6 Julia (just not as broken).
GrayFoxPL
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Gimme JayCee and Guy Chang.
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Today was the day of wonky hitboxes in Tag2.
I got sweeped out of Capital Punishment. Yeah, in the air. Think about it.
Later dude was spamming Leo's d+1+2 stance but he was screen away so I thought I'd fire up electric for practice. It hit him. While he was deep low in d+1+2. From almost screen away.
Something else also happened, but I can't remember any more. What a day.
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Today was the day of wonky hitboxes in Tag2.
I got sweeped out of Capital Punishment. Yeah, in the air. Think about it.
Later dude was spamming Leo's d+1+2 stance but he was screen away so I thought I'd fire up electric for practice. It hit him. While he was deep low in d+1+2. From almost screen away.
Something else also happened, but I can't remember any more. What a day.
Via Purifico
Banned
GrayFoxPL
Member
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/ne...bution-site-update-new-game-modes-charac.html
Premium Training Mode. Pay for such advanced features like damage values and stage reset.
Edit:
Hey Bryan's Parry seems to be b+1+3_2+4
Last move
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk7frac/pdf/bryan.pdf
Premium Training Mode. Pay for such advanced features like damage values and stage reset.
Edit:
Hey Bryan's Parry seems to be b+1+3_2+4
Last move
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tk7frac/pdf/bryan.pdf
GrayFoxPL
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OK some things I tried to figure out from new move lists(Without RA&RD):
Paul:
b+2,1 - mid mid, hold 1 for guard break?
ub+2 = old b+2
FC df+1+2 - only notation for gumba(hand sweep)
Bryan:
db+1+2 - new mid, high move from the gif.
FC df+4 - mid S!
b+1+3_2+4 - parry
Jin:
b+1 stance 3 - new mid move with S! and Homing.
b+1 stance 3+4 - old stance 3 kick
Steve:
uf+2 - mid ,old uf+2 seems gone
ws+1,1 - mid high
Lars:
DE+3 - so f+3,3, mid
Heihachi:
d+1,2 - mid mid
b,f+2,3 - mid high S!
Jack-7:
df+1,1 - mid mid S!
b+1 - mid
Devil Jin:
b+1+3_2+4 - Power Crush move (?!)
Dragunov:
f+3,2 - mid high S!
SS+3+4 - throw(?)
Kazumi got 2 new moves(or strings.)
Claudio & Katarina & Josie got 3 each.
Shaheen - 4.
Lucky Chloe - 7! (Oh no.)
Gigas - 8!
Edit: Nina has 7!
Nina:
f+2+3,DF - Rage Drive
3,3,4,3 - h,l,h,m
4,3,4,3 -h,l,h,m
f+2,1,4 - h,m,h S!
df+3,2,DF - transition into qcf
df+3,2,d+3,4,3 - m,h,l,h,m
fff+1+2 - mid (what is it?)
WS+1,4 - m,m
Paul:
b+2,1 - mid mid, hold 1 for guard break?
ub+2 = old b+2
FC df+1+2 - only notation for gumba(hand sweep)
Bryan:
db+1+2 - new mid, high move from the gif.
FC df+4 - mid S!
b+1+3_2+4 - parry
Jin:
b+1 stance 3 - new mid move with S! and Homing.
b+1 stance 3+4 - old stance 3 kick
Steve:
uf+2 - mid ,old uf+2 seems gone
ws+1,1 - mid high
Lars:
DE+3 - so f+3,3, mid
Heihachi:
d+1,2 - mid mid
b,f+2,3 - mid high S!
Jack-7:
df+1,1 - mid mid S!
b+1 - mid
Devil Jin:
b+1+3_2+4 - Power Crush move (?!)
Dragunov:
f+3,2 - mid high S!
SS+3+4 - throw(?)
Kazumi got 2 new moves(or strings.)
Claudio & Katarina & Josie got 3 each.
Shaheen - 4.
Lucky Chloe - 7! (Oh no.)
Gigas - 8!
Edit: Nina has 7!
Nina:
f+2+3,DF - Rage Drive
3,3,4,3 - h,l,h,m
4,3,4,3 -h,l,h,m
f+2,1,4 - h,m,h S!
df+3,2,DF - transition into qcf
df+3,2,d+3,4,3 - m,h,l,h,m
fff+1+2 - mid (what is it?)
WS+1,4 - m,m
ZeroTheShadow
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Claudio got a really weird new move with Starburst. Not sure what it could be used for.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Hm.
Kazumi gets a throw from Fly, that might be neat.
Katarina gets a new low that doesn't look too hot and d2, a counterhit launcher that's -10 on block and can go into Harrier. Kiiinda looks like it might high crush? Dunno. Might be good.
Kazumi gets a throw from Fly, that might be neat.
Katarina gets a new low that doesn't look too hot and d2, a counterhit launcher that's -10 on block and can go into Harrier. Kiiinda looks like it might high crush? Dunno. Might be good.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Where did you find the properties?
GrayFoxPL
Member
Oh, good find!
Edit:
Wonkey points out strange silhouettes(that could mean nothing)
But that guy on the right could be Raven.
+ Taekyon girl
+ Universal Soldier Baek
lol
I see what you're saying, but The wrestler unique stuff for Julia in TTT2 was border line useless. Here's the useful ones:
d+2+3 for high damage Oki
d/b+4 high damaging, non launch punishable low with free 50/50 FC mixup after
f+3 stance
f+2+3 tackle
a list of the rest moves:
u/f+3+4
u/f+1,2,4,3+4
BT 2+3
BT u/3+4
u/f+2
d/f+3+4 (only useful with tag assault)
Bridge stance (only 1+2 useful with tag assault)
f+2,2,1 & f+2,2,2
f,f+4
f,f+1+2
f+4:1+2
None of those moves are a part of her game at all and don't have much value IMO in a Tekken movelist. I struggle to think of how to make a character based off these moves listed above since they're mostly just fluff that can be added to an already existing character.
And in this case that character was Julia who'se foundation remains completely intact. Her game still completely relies on moves like shotgun, party crasher, mad axes, FC mixups, WR pressure, war drum, and the incredible crush moves at her disposal just like her T6 counterpart. So Namco can strip her of those new TTT2 additions and regress her to the old T6 version and there'll be no difference in the grand scheme of her gameplay, I just think it will be a waste since making a brand new character based on those handful of moves isn't really a worthy addition to the roster personally speaking. I'd much rather they start from scratch with the Lucha dore style and make something more akin to El Blaze from VF than TTT2 Julia.
Great!
Damn, I hate that system.
So what if we have like 5 different customizations for one character, how do we select them? Or will we only be able to save a custom to one symbol button?
This is the arcade version, things can be different for the console versions.
Oh, good find!
Edit:
Wonkey points out strange silhouettes(that could mean nothing)
But that guy on the right could be Raven.
+ Taekyon girl
+ Universal Soldier Baek
lol
Yeah, no way those are random silhouettes. Guy on the far right looks like Raven.
What does the "H" property stand for?
And regarding that promotional banner, those silhouettes are nothing worth noting. Pretty sure the male ones are the same "model" in different positions.
Via Purifico
Banned
Excellent, I really think Heihachi needs this. His screw options aren't too hot in vanilla 7. Hopefully the 3 has a good hitbox...
If you're talking about d/b+1+2, it's a mid then unblockable. In the preview builds people were saying the unblockable has to be stepped after blocking the mid: https://twitter.com/ZRM_25258/status/698844419475132416
ZeroTheShadow
Member
....I'm the one that discovered that during the original FR Beta build so no.
I'm talking about the new d+12.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Anyone here play Lili in Tekken 7? I was trying to find information on what changed between T6/TTT2 and T7FR and it seemed like she only got 3 new moves. That can't be right. I know of the f,f+1+2 chargeable move, the b+2,1,1+2 and qcf+2,1 which replaced the old qcf+2.
Oh yeah, I remember seeing that d+1,2 on one of the USA FR streams. Is the old d+1,2 removed then? No more spikes into grounded hits I guess.
FormallyFamicom
Member
Another Harada/Murray interview about T7FR
Hmm. That's a weird example just to bring up out of the blue...
Harada said:
Hmm. That's a weird example just to bring up out of the blue...
Cosmic Forge
Member
Sorry Yoshi, but if Flopping Salmon, aka F-Bob is added to the roster, you're toast. New Main: got em!
MTE. They always give some vague ass answers that manage to skirt around the original question completely. I just don't understand.
SquirrelSoup
Member
I haven't played yet, so take with a grain of salt.
T6 Lili is pretty different from TTT2 Lili so not sure what your baseline is.
But new stuff in FR compared to TTT2:
3+4 RA
df3+4,3 RD
u2
those three you mentioned.
ff2 is power crush now
b1~f goes into crouchdash
db4 launches on normal hit again
MMaRsu
Member
There would be a higher chance of the console port coming out in the next 10 minutes than either of these two things happening bro.
Keep on trucking on 360 then
Nice t1 ( or t2? ) cinematics
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