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Terror attack kills 12 at Paris newspaper - 4 wounded, gunmen identified
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No, not Cabu, shit
A friend who work for the police had a sig sauer as a service weapon.
For SWAT-style forces, there is at least RAID, google it.
RAID and GIGN. Raid is police, GIGN is gendarmerie. Both are very good.
Ranger Taffles
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Devastating news. What's upsetting even more is that the attackers are doing it as an act of revengance.
Apperently they shouted "The prophet has been avenged".
Fuck religious extremism man.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reported-at-Paris-magazine-Charlie-Hebdo.html
Fuck religious extremism man.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reported-at-Paris-magazine-Charlie-Hebdo.html
No, not Cabu, shit
A friend who work for the police had a sig sauer as a service weapon.
For SWAT-style forces, there is at least RAID, google it.
Yeah, looked up RAID, definitely falls in line with other European counter terrorist groups.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I hope they can take those 2 psychos down before they hurt or kill more people
ComputerMKII
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Another caricature
"Believer hurt by non-believers - Non-believer hurt by believers"
"Believer hurt by non-believers - Non-believer hurt by believers"
Stereogatari
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This is from a German satire paper about the German pope. Pope got angry, wanted them to stop printing that edition. Got a court to try to force them but they said, oh there seems to be a misunderstanding. Pope was just happy that he found the reason for the leaking in the Vatileaks affair and celebrated with FANTA.
To be fair Europe has had a wave of organic civilising processes that the Muslim World hasn't had for the most part. Europeans are lucky that historical political machinations led to the watering down of Christianity.
Sure, regular police is not equiped with bulletproof vest or automatic weapons but their at least armed. Is several european countries most policemen are not even armed with a handgun.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Awful. I really hope Hollande reconsiders his policy of paying these monsters to release hostages. No one should be giving these maniacs money
Funky Papa
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It looks like Hollande is already engaging in damage control.
I've been to pretty much all of Europe and I can only remember the UK from the top of my mind. Every single cop on the beat had at least a handgun and in some instances carried more than that in their cars.
That's a pretty well known cartoonist here, who's been working for dozen of years. One of the most known.
He was (if this is confirmed) even working for the major kid's tv show in the 80's.
It has to be noted here that known artists, many journalists, being killed like that is a first i think.
SliceSabre
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All this death over a freaking drawing?
Hope they catch these religious extremists and put them under the jail.
Hope they catch these religious extremists and put them under the jail.
Sutton Dagger
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So are these guys still out there at the moment? Are we expecting more shit to go down or are they likely to go into hiding?
SniperHunter
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These people only think about religion. nothing else matters to them
UtterlyPerplexed
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Kalashnikovs AND a rocket launcher? Holy shit.
Appalling news. Fuck religious fundamentalism. Of all forms. Stay strong, folks of Paris.
Appalling news. Fuck religious fundamentalism. Of all forms. Stay strong, folks of Paris.
ComputerMKII
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It depends on the moment police was informed
BaronLundi
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Legendary French cartoonist and illustrator with a wide range and audience (kids stuff, political cartoons, adult comics...) and immediately recognizable style.
I think Norway don't have (or at least before the Olso attacks ?) a lot of armed police on the streets ?
timetokill
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By instilling fear in people they will often bend to your will.
that's the plan. And unfortunately in the name of "security" the plan works all too often.
SniperHunter
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I dont see a rocket launcher. Just guns
I don't think this is simply about the cartoons.
Even though IS never specifically said attack France they did say attack 'those who attack us in there lands'
These guys look to professional to be lone wolfs but then again if it was officially IS I don't see why they wouldn't claim it.
Even though IS never specifically said attack France they did say attack 'those who attack us in there lands'
These guys look to professional to be lone wolfs but then again if it was officially IS I don't see why they wouldn't claim it.
BrassDragon
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Community policing and critical incident response are not the same. Different tools for different jobs - just because you've seen one type of cop doesn't mean that's all we have in the arsenal.
ComputerMKII
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French television has confirmed there were three attackers, not two.
Its that way for American police, they have a AR-15 or a shotgun in the trunk or backseat.
actually, it's about ethics in games journalism.
(disclaimer: if anyone considers this bad taste, i am sorry. My heart's with the friends and families of those who have been killed.
I do believe, however, it'd be in the spirit of those who have lost their lives to relieve some of the tension by means of black humour.)
I do believe, however, it'd be in the spirit of those who have lost their lives to relieve some of the tension by means of black humour.)
Atleast here in germany i think they have MP-5 sub machine guns but they aren't really trained like they are with pistols. Don't know about france.
From the Guardian liveblog: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo
Been thinking about the argument that you can't expect peaceful Muslims to protest against terrorism.
On one hand, I agree. You can't, it's not their fault.
On the other hand, it might still be in their best interest. For instance, tens of thousands of Germans have publicly protested against the anti-Islam PEGIDA marches. Which has been reported internationally alongsides the PEGIDA stuff.
Some "positive PR" really can't hurt, especially if the public image of your group can have a very real impact. I'm sure French Muslims would rather not have a Le Pen-led government...
On one hand, I agree. You can't, it's not their fault.
On the other hand, it might still be in their best interest. For instance, tens of thousands of Germans have publicly protested against the anti-Islam PEGIDA marches. Which has been reported internationally alongsides the PEGIDA stuff.
Some "positive PR" really can't hurt, especially if the public image of your group can have a very real impact. I'm sure French Muslims would rather not have a Le Pen-led government...
The French have highly trained special forces groups, but regardless, securing a metropolis like Paris after this type of attack is incredibly difficult. No matter how good they are, if terrorists armed and trained like that want to make a bigger mess before they go down, it's near impossible to stop them.
I imagine you were in London or a transport hub and saw one of our firearms unit. They make up a very small number of our total police force - vast majority unarmed.
I imagine you were in London or a transport hub and saw one of our firearms unit. They make up a very small number of our total police force - vast majority unarmed.
ComputerMKII
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Publishing director of Charlie Hebdo, Charb
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UtterlyPerplexed
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I was just hastily tuning in to the news now and it was one of the first things I saw the BBC quote from another source.
it would be amazing if people stopped pronouncing people dead already without any of us having the facts.
also, anyone killed, whether it's a cartoonist or "just" a secretary is a tragic loss for civilized society as a whole
Kiever Sher
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Yeah the videos are insane, clearly not amateur hour. No wild spraying, they killed the cop who confronted them before calmly driving on, seem to be well aware of their surroundings etc.
D'après un témoins, les tireurs ont pris le bd Richard Lenoir à contresens dans une voiture noire, en direction de la place de la République
https://twitter.com/EliseBarthet/status/552800938378141698
Apparently they are driving around in a black citreon. French isn't really the best of my languages can anyone translate?
https://twitter.com/EliseBarthet/status/552800938378141698
Apparently they are driving around in a black citreon. French isn't really the best of my languages can anyone translate?
In Portugal the police cars are equiped with at least a shotgun and some even with an HK G3 (GNR), France may be different
This is pure insanity
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