Stereogatari
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Front page of popular Turkish satirical magazine Penguen:
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Terrorist attack at Charlie Hebdo magazine. 12 dead. 11 wounded.
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I hope its not. Otherwise there is a pretty big problem.
So a bunch of innocent people are offended. You know what I say to the thousands of people who were offended by the pictures but chose not to lash out violently?
"Welcome."
That's how we do it in the West. No one is immune from criticism. Ever. Everyone here has been offended, multiple times. We shrug and bear it because we know that the alternatives are way, way worse.
ComputerMKII
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Marine Le Pen just said that "national unity (was) a pathetic, politician maneuver" ("l'union nationale est une manoeuvre politicienne minable"), newspaper Le Monde reports.
The hell is national union?
It's only his usual securitarian skit.
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I see Nigel Farage hasn't missed his opportunity to get his name in the news again. Fucking scumbag.
I think she is referencing inclusive multiculturism which being a right way shit head she would oppose.
Exactly!
I'm offended by a lot of things I see and read on the media. If you don't like what a newspaper prints, stop buying it. It's really that simple.
If you think someone should go to jail over a cartoon or the cartoons should not be printed I'm sorry to say but you're part of the problem.
ComputerMKII
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It's when all political parties agree to join their voices and commonly express their grief, opposition to terrorism and support to law enforcement. It's not an actual political union, just a temporary display of solidarity.
maquiladora
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Powerful as in morbid and shocking, an image to grab attention in the hope that you'll buy their paper. Using the moment of a man's death to sell their paper but too cowardly to show the cartoon that was the justification for the slaughter.
They feel quite comfortable that the people offended by showing the image of Ahmed Merabet's murder won't try to storm their offices and murder them because of it.
CrimzonSamurai
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Did we ever get an official statement on the 18 year old that turned himself in? There was confusion as to whether he was a participant or if the perpetrators may have planted his ID in their getaway vehicle as a diversion. His classmates - or people claiming to be classmates - were saying he was in class with them at the time of the attacks.
Of course he hasn't. He's a bottom feeder and somehow proud of it.
-duskdoll-
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This is fucking terrifying
Probably the equivalent of "I am an American" that happened after 9/11.
What has that fucking prick said now?
DiipuSurotu
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National unity is probably a better translation.
Yes, the cowards. It's more about the money and the sales. Shame.
ComputerMKII
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Wut? You'll find similar statements from both her and her father dating years back.
I think it's still unclear.
Kenshin001
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Of course it's real. They probably consider themselves moderates and peaceful Muslims too, while at the same time supporting segregation and the death penalty for homosexuals. Many of them would be cheering on the Charlie Hebdo attackers.
Sausage fest.
ComputerMKII
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Amazing Streisand effect at the top of this page -> http://www.reddit.com/r/all/
FlyingSaucer
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If you want to really get sick, check Soral lastest piece of excrement on YT.
Spoiler : the jews did it.
Spoiler : the jews did it.
That's pretty weak even by her standarts.
Yikes. Although this isn't really surprising.
DrGonzo615
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Regardless of which faith you believe in, anybody that believes in these horrible ideas is disgusting and an insult to human progress.
Thanks religion! for dragging the world back into a new Dark Ages.
The world will send them back to the Dark Ages while everyone else moves forward together.
Wow, that was a very interesting read, especially the part about the freedom of conscience, religion and speech. I think it shows that, with a little bit of tolerance from both sides, the Islamic world can be compatiable with the Western world and can co-exist peacefully. It's a shame that people on both sides do not want this to happen and will resort to violence in order to stop any form of integration.
It's segregated by gender. Near the end of the video the speaker asks to take a question from the 'sister's side' and you start to hear a female voice speaking.
ComputerMKII
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Palette Swap
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Friends, acquaintances, various travels in North Africa. A lot of people I've come across tended to describe themselves as Arabs (when they didn't use a nationality). The very notable exception was Kabyles as all the ones I've met tend to have a very strong sense of identity. They're also probably the most secular people I've run into while in North Africa.
Sorry if this came across as a gross generalization, obviously.
As an aside, I'm under the impression that in North Africa at least, developing secularism and a sense of identity that's independent from whatever happens in Middle East are central to fighting this kind of stuff.
phisheep
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It's not an easy decision.
While a smaller publication (like Charlie), can take risks by agreement of all involved, it gets rather different if, say, the editor upstairs decides it would be good journalism to publish when it might be the receptionist downstairs gets shot.
That said, some of the responses in Germany and Portugal have hit exactly the right buttons, while the UK has not. I suspect they thought too much about whether to publish and not enough about *what* to publish.
If this group is indeed as representative as the speakers suggest, that dashes the notion that any and all challenges to immigration in Europe amount to xenophobia and racism masquerading as a concern with cultural incompatibility.
Portugeezer
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First time I ever got a laugh out of Reddit.
Not surprising. Every muslim I've known that's expressed an opinion on homosexuals has always been against them, though none have gone so far as to say they should be killed. One muslim that I drive to work with defended Shariah law saying if you don't do the crime, then nothing will happen, so what's the problem? Pretty cool, huh?
I don't think the people that hold that notion are willing to have it challenged.
ComputerMKII
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gutter_trash
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we should not forget that many of the Western European democracies have spent two centuries separating the Church from State to have secular public governance not influenced anymore by the Church and the clergy.
It is normal for these same Western European democracies to want to defend their secularism and not kneel down and appease to other religions wanting the host state to make concessions to them that would come into conflict with the secular nature of the country's laws and politics.
Baki
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Why is that important. The best statement against these terrorists would be to give them less media attention. Relegate them to the back page.
Front page of popular Turkish satirical magazine Penguen:
This image is making me teary-eyed.
Would have been awesome if they got cartoonists from all over the world to contribute, really go "nous sommes Charlie". Printing 1 million is really awesome though
fixedpoint
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Yikes.
ComputerMKII
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Le Monde reports that ISIS's radio station called the attackers 'heroes'. -_-
UnluckyKate
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So rare to see these guy going full tactical like this and frankly, as french, a bit surreal to see our intervention team (can't say if it's RAID or GIGN, police or army tact teams). Last time was during the Merah's standoff and we all know how it ended
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