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[Air Zombie Meat]

that'd make sense if there wasn't a hostage situation right now

this was never at any point contained. they've been in react mode since this entire thing started

Hopefully they consult you next time for advice.

 

[MJLord]

that'd make sense if there wasn't a hostage situation right now

this was never at any point contained. they've been in react mode since this entire thing started

What would you have had them do? There's only so much you can do when people like this just seem to appear. I'd say the French have had a handle on it pretty quickly.

 

[DY_nasty]

uh...do you not remember the Boston bombing? And that was the US going all fucking out. I'd say the French are doing just fine.

that was a remote det in a massive gathering

entirely different than a broad daylight shooting that's taken this long to even contain let alone resolve

 

[Ensirius]

This situation is so surreal.

 

[Klyka]

that'd make sense if there wasn't a hostage situation right now

this was never at any point contained. they've been in react mode since this entire thing started


but they've lost police, time, and more civilians have been caught up in this. people are going to look at this kind of situation and begin to think that their crazy ideas are possible.

this has snowballed. they've done a poor job.

Police are ALWAYS in react mode. They don't just magically conjure up information and teleport their officers to places. This isn't GTA where for some reason everyone always knows where you are.

 

[R_thanatos]

Well , tanks on the ground or helicopter aerial coverage , I guess they have choosen what approach to take lol

 

[potam]

that was a remote det in a massive gathering

entirely different than a broad daylight shooting that's taken this long to even contain let alone resolve

I'm talking about the ensuing manhunt.

 

[CoolOff]

Why would they bring in a tank?

 

[BaronLundi]

Drawn by Kroll

Get out of there. We're gonna draw you with big fat cunt faces...

 

[Vanpastel]

Justin Bronk ‏@Justin_Br0nk 3m3 minutes ago
The French authorities have brought in a Leclerc Main Battle Tank to the #CharieHebdo attacker standoff area...

But that is not a LeClerc, look at the picture you're quoting and you'll see the three wheels on this side.

 

[Skele7on]

TANK BEATS EVERYTHING.

 

[Chariot]

French forces should've send in the DY_nasty warrior to clear the situation.

 

[Alx]

that'd make sense if there wasn't a hostage situation right now

this was never at any point contained. they've been in react mode since this entire thing started.

Hostages make it even more necessary not to rush in.
Those guys aren't going anywhere, better wait for them to get tired or nervous, and plan any intervention carefully. Time favors those doing the siege.

 

[DY_nasty]

i dont see why saying that days of heavily armed guys on the loose means that france is doing a poor job at this...

I'm talking about the ensuing manhunt.

point still stands

boston manhunt = people didn't even know where to start looking. this is very different

 

[Klyka]

But that is not a LeClerc, look at the picture you're quoting and you'll see the three wheels on this side.

That's the tweet saying that, not him

 

[ResidentDante]

that was a remote det in a massive gathering

entirely different than a broad daylight shooting that's taken this long to even contain let alone resolve

Once the shooting took place they drove off from the scene, disappearing into a huge city like Paris is often easy. Hunting down two people like this takes some effort, and the police can't prepare for random people picking up guns and just firing them.

 

[Joni]

But that is not a LeClerc, look at the picture you're quoting and you'll see the three wheels on this side.

More likely the AMX 10 RC.

 

[thenight11]

But that is not a LeClerc, look at the picture you're quoting and you'll see the three wheels on this side.

I know nothing of tanks, this tweet was from @Justin_Br0nk
Aerospace and defence news, analysis and footage from a Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) Military Sciences research analyst -

of course the moment I type this up...he corrects it
Correction: Armour brought in for #CharieHebdo standoff is an AMX-10RC, not an MBT - MT @NickJDWEurope for the ident!

 

[Odah]

The chance of this tank actually being useful is -1%

 

[potam]

point still stands

boston manhunt = people didn't even know where to start looking. this is very different

No I'm talking about after they killed the cop at MIT, and then were tracked to that neighborhood that ended up being swarmed by cops, SWAT, and FBI. I don't remember the exact details, but it did take them a while to finally get them after they knew where they were.

Fuck, wasn't one of them caught just because some dude noticed his tarp over his boat was moved?

 

[Funky Papa]

I'm talking about the ensuing manhunt.

Hello. Meet Christopher Dorner.

Response to terrorists attacks is reactive by definition. And it's not like it's impossible to break away from normal cops when they are woefully outgunned by people carrying military-grade weapons and in such a complicated scenario like the streets of Paris.

 

[thenight11]

More likely the AMX 10 RC.

This is the correct answer

 

[marc^o^]

Hello.

Response to terrorists attacks is reactive by definition. And it's not like it's impossible to break away from normal cops when they are woefully outgunned by people carrying military-grade weapons.

My thought exactly, I believe nearby cops with guns in Paris were told not to engage a fight against murderers with a bazooka.

 

[jakonovski]

Ok bringing a tank is just weird. Using the main cannon in Paris would be way, way too dangerous.

 

[potam]

Hello. Meet Christopher Dorner.

Response to terrorists attacks is reactive by definition. And it's not like it's impossible to break away from normal cops when they are woefully outgunned by people carrying military-grade weapons and in such a complicated scenario like the streets of Paris.

Oh yeah forgot about Dorner too.

 

[Odah]

I bet if there would be a river next to that factory they'd come with an Aircraft Carrier aswell


"area is secure -over chhh"

 

[thenight11]

Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 2m2 minutes ago
Update - French media: identified suspect in #Paris policewoman killing is known associate of suspected #CharlieHebdo gunman Cherif Kouachi

 

[DY_nasty]

No I'm talking about after they killed the cop at MIT, and then were tracked to that neighborhood that ended up being swarmed by cops, SWAT, and FBI. I don't remember the exact details, but it did take them a while to finally get them after they knew where they were.

Fuck, wasn't one of them caught just because some dude noticed his tarp over his boat was moved?

still - you gotta see how that's extremely different than what we have here

the dorner stuff applies yeah, but even then they knew who it was and had a generally solid belief that he was acting alone.

 

[Chariot]

Ok bringing a tank is just weird. Using the main cannon in Paris would be way, way too dangerous.

Maybe they just use it just as a shield against the possible rocket launcher? I don't think that there would be any good use for the canon against two men on foot.

 

[Klyka]

I am pretty sure that if we played hide & seek in a city like Paris it would take you a long while to find me and even longer if you knew I had an AK that I would shoot you with if you DID find me.

 

[Alx]

Ok bringing a tank is just weird. Using the main cannon in Paris would be way, way too dangerous.

Well they're not in Paris any more, but in an industrial area ~80 km away. But yes it is still weird. And in any case there's 0 chance they'd use the cannon. I still believe it is an unrelated convoy.

 

[Funky Papa]

i dont see why saying that days of heavily armed guys on the loose means that france is doing a poor job at this...

The shooting happened on the 7th. They are now corraled and unable to escape.

This isn't something that outrageous, specially when you consider that we are talking about actual terrorists with military training, not just your average standoff with a common criminal.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Ok bringing a tank is just weird. Using the main cannon in Paris would be way, way too dangerous.

No one is going to shoot with a tank. I'm guessing it is some last resort thing for armor protection to move in, considering they can have very heavy weapons.

 

[BrassDragon]

that was a remote det in a massive gathering

entirely different than a broad daylight shooting that's taken this long to even contain let alone resolve

Those armchairs comfortable enough for you?

 

[Joni]

Maybe they just use it just as a shield against the possible rocket launcher? I don't think that there would be any good use for the canon against two men on foot.

"Why is there a big gaping hole where they used to be our hideout?"
It also shoots massive smoke grenades.

 

[DY_nasty]

My thought exactly, I believe nearby cops with guns in Paris were told not to engage a fight against murderers with a bazooka.

then why are they still getting killed over the shit? this wreaks of a mess. i don't know what happened nor does anyone else but when stuff like this snowballs and escalates then more than one thing has gone very wrong

 

[potam]

still - you gotta see how that's extremely different than what we have here

the dorner stuff applies yeah, but even then they knew who it was and had a generally solid belief that he was acting alone.

ok now I have no fucking idea what you're saying the French should have done differently...

They should have just been better?

 

[Jokab]

What is the most likely punishment if they are caught alive? Will they be prosecuted in France?

 

[Funky Papa]

then why are they still getting killed over the shit? this wreaks of a mess. i don't know what happened nor does anyone else but when stuff like this snowballs and escalates then more than one thing has gone very wrong

I'M NOT A SCIENTIST, BUT...

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Wait, what is going on? I literally just got up. They're back in Paris now?

What is the most likely punishment if they are caught alive? Will they be prosecuted in France?

Where else would they be prosecuted?
Most likely is life in prison. Though France's far right movement is trying to bring back the death penalty. Hopefully they won't succeed though.

 

[ColdHoboKiller]

When it cut to the guy and "I'm in Miami bitch!" comes blaring out of a passing car was hilarious.

 

[DY_nasty]

ok now I have no fucking idea what you're saying the French should have done differently...

They should have just been better?

yeah. they should be better

i don't think that's even asking a lot

 

[Jburton]

Those armchairs comfortable enough for you?

Careful, he knows his stuff and is prepared to pontificate.

Who needs tanks, just send that guy .....yawn.

 

[Chariot]

"Why is there a big gaping hole where they used to be our hideout?"
It also shoots massive smoke grenades.

Mind you, this is still a hostage situation. If things go awry, they can move in with the ground forces.
But the smoke grenades are a good idea.

 

[spekkeh]

Hello. Meet Christopher Dorner.

Response to terrorists attacks is reactive by definition. And it's not like it's impossible to break away from normal cops when they are woefully outgunned by people carrying military-grade weapons and in such a complicated scenario like the streets of Paris.

Or John Allen Muhammad

 

[potam]

yeah. they should be better

i don't think that's even asking a lot

k

 

[Alx]

What is the most likely punishment if they are caught alive? Will they be prosecuted in France?

Prison for life. And yes they will be prosecuted in France, why wouldn't they be ? They're French, killed French people on French territory, and in all likeliness will be captured in France.

 

[MJLord]

I'M NOT A SCIENTIST, BUT...

Don't be modest!

 

[Tugatrix]

Why the tank?

 

[Chariot]

Clearly france need precogs.