That Last of Us 2 sales drop is impressive

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TLOU surpassed Uncharted 4 in revenue in less than 3 weeks in the US. The game is a success regardless of how much you guys try to prove that the sales are not good.
Despite overselling Gow on release(tlou 2 sold almost 1 mil more), its now lagging behind Gow after 2 months. Does it tell you anything?
 
Yeah, I don't find it surprising.

I loved the game, and it's definitely one of the more memorable - although emotionally draining - games in recent memory.

However, this game - with its premise - was never going to do THAT well outside of America.

Im from South East Asia, but I'm a third culture kid, therefore I was willing to accept the premise and be open minded about the story.

But a HUGE number of people in my life in Asia want to avoid that game like a plague after the leak.

Seriously, from a marketing perspective, this game was a hard sell after the leak.

ND need to get out of their echo chamber, and understand that the world doesn't revolve around America and it's "progressive" ideologies and forcing it in was not going to lead to great sales.

Awards, sure.

But not sales, not to the tune of 20 million like the first game.
 
Despite overselling Gow on release(tlou 2 sold almost 1 mil more), its now lagging behind Gow after 2 months. Does it tell you anything?

Where's your sales data?

You mean gamer stats that had 14 milion players when the game sold 10 million copies?

You need actual data, not player count.

You're also the same guy that accused NPD of being fanboys by reporting false data.
 
So, 75% of the sales of the original TLOU were bundles? You can't be serious. :p

I wonder why some people are so married to this game being a success, even when most people that played it hated the characters and everything points to it being a salea flop.

Is it because it's an LGBT game and it HAS to be successful no matter what?
i think that's it in a nutshell, don't mess with the gay agenda, angry joe has done how many reviews and he gets banned from resetera for daring to criticize this game, skill up received constant hate on twitter for not towing the line as well
 
Sure did buddy.

My point is, if the first game did 20 mil copies sold, theoretically having 20 million fans give or take, regardless if it was bundled or not.

You would expect the sequel to one of sony's most beloved highly anticipated franchise to perform better.

Because right now, it has fallen out of the top 10s, sales have dropped drastically week on week, divided the fanbase and its been beaten by GoT, which by the way is a new IP.

The first game's total is the sum of two releases on two platforms, and in neither case did it come out a month behind another tentpole first-party exclusive. But whatever, I'm sure it'll do fine in the long run. Especially as the MP portion is yet to appear, which is likely to elevate sales if it turns out as well as the first game's did.
 
I was one and done with it. I will probably see what improvements they make for PS5 patch, but that's it. It didn't live up to the expectations for me.
 
i think that's it in a nutshell, don't mess with the gay agenda, angry joe has done how many reviews and he gets banned from resetera for daring to criticize this game, skill up received constant hate on twitter for not towing the line as well



People are still making TLOU videos for clout.

People in today's world are just so sensitive. People attacked the actors of this game and they accused journalist of being paid to give the game a good score. A lot of people also went out of their way to spoil the game for anyone and everyone possible...


This game really exposed a lot of people.
 
Not surprised. It's basically a one-and-done game and (those that wanted to buy it at the full price) have already done so. I think they will now look to reduce its price (on PS4) and hope that its sales pick up on PS5 (or at least make to sell system).

Interesting to see what happens when the PvP mode is release (is that going to be separate or just a freee expansion?)
 
If true, this is what we were trying to tell people pointing to the initial success and crowing about it.

It doesn't matter how woke, or misguided of a sequel you have, if you're a huge entertainment property with amazing momentum. The majority of people just are not aware of these controversies before putting down their money at the counter.

The effects will always be seen afterwards as word spreads, and especially for the sequel.
 
I find it odd that some on GAF have such a hate-on for this game that goes beyond just not liking the gameplay or whatever. Like they're personally offended and threatened by this game's existence.
 
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This is what happens when you release a game with a challenging narrative and the ignorant get all confused about it because the story is layered. They need ABC storytelling otherwise they feel all dumb and need to lash out. I hated Abby too btw until I saw her side.

Basically everyone who hates this game lacks empathy. That's why it's making so many people angry, they don't like to be reminded that they have that trait.
 
I didnt have a problem with the agenda or message. I was however offended by the banal story.

Someone does horrible shit, that person is forgiven... violence is bad, the end. Wonder why that writer still works in the game industry? Oh thats right, thats where shitty writers work.
 
Despite overselling Gow on release(tlou 2 sold almost 1 mil more), its now lagging behind Gow after 2 months. Does it tell you anything?

That the fanbase for TLOU is more enthusiastic?

It's the fastest selling exclusive for PS4. Y'all are fucking nuts.
 
On my second playthrough and I'm enjoying it even more. The game has sold so many more copies at full price and digital then the first the revenue is off the charts for Sony.
 


People are still making TLOU videos for clout.

People in today's world are just so sensitive. People attacked the actors of this game and they accused journalist of being paid to give the game a good score. A lot of people also went out of their way to spoil the game for anyone and everyone possible...


This game really exposed a lot of people.

i don't think they got paid per se, but most journalists tow the progressive/liberal line due to peer pressure and potential loss of access. there's no real diversity of thought in the video games industry
 
Jesus, people. Just let it go. The game has sold millions upon millions. And now a few months have passed, it's sales have dropped. It was a massive success, despite anyone's feelings about it.
 
How the fuck is there no fan base? I read all the time how people love the game. Game sold amazingly so potential buyers have it already.

Multi million selling game and people pretend like it did not good. Lol
Multimillion selling game thanks to lies and the franchise name, by not by its quality. And thats wht its salea droped like any other Sony AAA.

This game without a previous installment, and an honest marketing, would have failed hard, because there would be nothing left besides an awful narrative.
 
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i don't think they got paid per se, but most journalists tow the progressive/liberal line due to peer pressure and potential loss of access. there's no real diversity of thought in the video games industry

Because they don't see it as a problem as most people.

Left will whine about a woman showing too much ass in a game and the right will still argue about a masculine female character in a video game.

What's funny is that I've seen people whine about Abby's muscles more than anything else.
 
I think this is why companies want more Games with service style games. Because the money you make is not front loaded . You can keep making money as time goes on . This is why Sea of Thieves is Rare's most successful game of all time ( money wise , and that is their words). Now , rather you like GwS versus a single player game , is a whole different story. But I can understand why more companies are adding a GwS game to their lineup.
 
The market is slowly shifting away from the Naughty Dog template. There's still a massive market for it but the market has shifted/grown so much over the last 15 years.
 
Multimillion selling game thanks to lies and the franchise name, by not by its quality. And thats wht its salea droped like any other Sony AAA.

This game without a previous installment, and an honest marketing, would have failed hard, because there would be nothing left besides an awful narrative.

Lies, when the character people are upset about the absence of doesn't appear on the box!

Uh-huh.
 
That the fanbase for TLOU is more enthusiastic?

It's the fastest selling exclusive for PS4. Y'all are fucking nuts.

It is not even in the UK Top 10 charts anymore. On Amazon a PS4 cooler stand sells more right now.

Ghost sells a lot more on a day to day basis right now.
 
The game has no MP and is finished in 20 hours. People talked about it for 2 months. Almost 50% of playerbase finished the game and moved on. What else is there to talk about?

I mean it's not different from FF7 Remake or even Ghost only Ghost is much fresher atm with no other big title coming out.
 
I think this is why companies want more Games with service style games. Because the money you make is not front loaded . You can keep making money as time goes on . This is why Sea of Thieves is Rare's most successful game of all time ( money wise , and that is their words). Now , rather you like GwS versus a single player game , is a whole different story. But I can understand why more companies are adding a GwS game to their lineup.

Furthermore, top AAAs that also include online ecosystems, generally retain their retail price. Just look at GTA5. People tend to hang on to games they've either not finished or can continue to play. This means less 2nd-hand copies flooding the marketing and bringing down it's full price. This is a big win for the developers/publishers as they sell more copies.

Saying that, TLOU2 has sold a ton of copies and will continue to sell more (price drops, PS5 version, PvP expansion, etc.)

I think the fact that there are so many strong feelings about the game (both good and bad) is a good thing. Shows that they're making games that people care about.
 
Game isn't attractive to casual public.

Exactly. Love it or hate it, the fact that there are AAA 100+ million dollar budget games deliberately made NOT to push as many units as possible is what makes me look forward to the future of gaming, past the barrage of gaas/mtx/mp/mvp we get announced every year.

Especially if those games are still making numbers are more than enough to validate their existence and future projects of studios like Naughty Dog. GG.
 


People are still making TLOU videos for clout.

People in today's world are just so sensitive. People attacked the actors of this game and they accused journalist of being paid to give the game a good score. A lot of people also went out of their way to spoil the game for anyone and everyone possible...


This game really exposed a lot of people.


Before saying anything, I will say, Twitter is a cesspool and that poor lady shouldn't have gotten any hate messages. Druckmann set her up for that, unfortunately.

That being said, so yes? Your only agenda here is to make the game a success no matter how much the sales have fallen and how bad the audience reception to the game is, because it's an LGBT game. That's your entire agenda, it CAN'T fail, even if it seems to be a failure.

The game failed because it's bad, the forced propaganda turned people off and the shit story that insulted characters people loved didn't help either.
 
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Before saying anything, I will say, Twitter is a cesspool and that poor lady shouldn't have gotten any hate messages. Druckmann set her up for that, unfortunately.

That being said, so yes? Your only agenda here is to make the game a success no matter how much the sales have fallen and how bad the audience reception to the game is, because it's an LGBT game. That's your entire agenda, it CAN'T fail, even if it seems to be a failure.

The game failed because it's bad, the forced propaganda turned people off and the shit story that insulted characters people loved didn't help either.

Do you know more than guys who report sales data?

You don't.


So your statements makes no sense at all because they don't call it a failure.
 
Do you know more than guys who report sales data?

You don't.


So your statements makes no sense at all because they don't call it a failure.

The first game became a colossal success over time due to word of mouth and excellent story, writing and graphical presentation. It didn't start selling 10 million copies in the first weekend.

The sequel on the other hand, sold its pre-orders and now it's out of every top 10 list we have access to, with most people that played it hating it.

You have this weird need to defend it because it's a gay/trans game, but even you can't deny the word of mouth of this game is awful.
 
The first game became a colossal success over time due to word of mouth and excellent story, writing and graphical presentation. It didn't start selling 10 million copies in the first weekend.

The sequel on the other hand, sold its pre-orders and now it's out of every top 10 list we have access to, with most people that played it hating it.

You have this weird need to defend it because it's a gay/trans game, but even you can't deny the word of mouth of this game is awful.

As I expected, you don't know what you're talking about. I also posted information that shows that it's not out of every top 10 we have access to.

You also don't know how many people loved it vs hating it.

I go by facts. You go in TLOU threads just spewing nonsense. Next time bring some facts, okay?
 
Ew! What an absolute beg of a thread 😂 - these types of discussions still being held? Looosers........... I guess some are still utterly pressed the game did so well even with all the polarising hate and flop of a boycott. The game could have come out the top 10 a year later and there'd still be a thread about it as if it were some winning feat for the haters.
Spider-Man left the top 10 at some point, no? It happens. Guarantee LoU will be back in there. Also, I love the absolute cringe lie about there being no fan base 🥴
Oh hon. Your making the haters hate the haters 🙂
 
All my friends and all the people I know who have played it have loved the game.

But people I know who haven't played it ... didn't like it :-(

This game is a FLOP.
 
This is a gaming forum afaik. People nitpick about stuff like this. We used to do that for years and that is part of the hobby. Like the endless discussion about why Han shot first.

Don't act like Elsa and ask others to behave like that. If you don't like a certain discussion ignore it. It does not make you better or more mature if you don't care.
 
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