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The 2010 Academy Awards of Something Something

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B-Rad Lascelle

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Snowman Prophet of Doom said:
Since when does the Oscar's prestige come from commercially popular movies winning? If anything, Avatar winning will damage the award's prestige because there were a number of better movies released last year.
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There are a number of better movies released than the eventual Best Picture winner EVERY year.

But at least the eventual winner was watched by a decent-sized handful or stands the opportunity to do so after winning. The Hurt Locker doesn't qualify as either.

As for the "10 nominees is enough to show we're not out of touch with audiences" angle, that's hardly enough. At the end of the day, nobody remembers whether a film was nominated for Best Picture or not. Only the winner (and sometimes not even then... Crash anyone).

If Avatar fails to win Best Picture, all the headlines tomorrow will be about how the Academy remains out of touch with moviegoers. Bigelow's momentous win as Best Director will be overshadowed. Ratings will continue to plummet. It's a lose-lose for everyone concerned.
 
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friskykillface

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DevelopmentArrested said:
She was probably the worst part of the film too.
Her best acting performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ6hIEqKR7A
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:lol :lol never saw this before.



but meh, didn't see most of the films nominated for movie of the year, smh at me
still need to see up in the air, avatar and the hurt locker
but i saw a bit of the hurt locker on jtv, it was alright but i'm all for Inglorious Basterds taking awards away from the hurt locker :D :D shots fired
but avatar is winning movie of the year

lets go Quentin Tarantino for best director
 
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Zophar

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ChefRamsay said:
The Hurt Locker spoilers in my response below:


That is the character development right there! We don't understand his dedication until the final shot of him redeploying into Iraq. Throughout the film, he's this reckless shell of a man who the viewer is left to question his motives as an EOD technician - is it just a sick game to him? We only understand it isn't at the final scene.

The first thing we see in THL is the following quotation:

"The rush of battle is a potent and often lethal addiction, for war is a drug."

I don't understand how clearer you could be with a thesis than by opening your movie with it. THL then proceeds to investigate this idea of something as horrible as war being potentially addictive to some soldiers through situations where an adrenaline junkie makes reckless decisions to get his high. When he is thrown back into an average, boring, safe life, his addiction calls him back to the battlefield.
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I didn't remember the quote from the beginning, thanks for pointing that out to me.
 
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Gigglepoo

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B-Rad Lascelle said:
If Avatar fails to win Best Picture, all the headlines tomorrow will be about how the Academy remains out of touch with moviegoers.
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I don't think that's true at all. Everyone I know has seen Avatar, but I don't know anyone who thinks it was the best movie they saw last year. Just because it was super popular doesn't mean everyone thinks it was the best thing ever. They just think it was fun and pretty to look at. By your logic, anything other than a blockbuster winning would elicit scorn and ridicule from the masses, and that just isn't the case.
 
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Tobor

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gdt5016 said:
From the Academy's view, the more elitist they are seen as...the lower ratings they get and the lower general interest is.

So, they've started to try to combat that.
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I understand that, and I think it's a mistake. Trading historical relevancy and critical integrity for ratings is not a good idea.
 
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Tobor said:
I understand that, and I think it's a mistake. Trading historical relevancy and critical integrity for ratings is not a good idea.
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If they really wanted a ratings boost, they should just show naked pictures of Johnny Depp.
 
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Tobor

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Dresden said:
If they really wanted a ratings boost, they should just show naked pictures of Johnny Depp.
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Basically. :lol

Avatar winning an Oscar isn't going to boost ratings. They need to worry about making a better show, not who wins the awards or gets nominated.
 
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B-Rad Lascelle

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Gigglepoo said:
I don't think that's true at all. Everyone I know has seen Avatar, but I don't know anyone who thinks it was the best movie they saw last year. Just because it was super popular doesn't mean everyone thinks it was the best thing ever. They just think it was fun and pretty to look at. By your logic, anything other than a blockbuster winning would elicit scorn and ridicule from the masses, and that just isn't the case.
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I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that's the case THIS YEAR.

Next year they can give the award to a non-blockbuster crafted by the likes of the Coen brothers or Danny Boyle (both of whom are among my favorite directors along with Eastwood).

It is the scale of Avatar's blockbuster appeal which makes ignoring it in favor of a $12 million grossing Hurt Locker almost spiteful. And it's not like Avatar is a pile of trash. It's a better movie than Titanic was and is most assuredly the favorite film of 2009 for a lot of people even if you don't happen to know any of them.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Tobor said:
Basically. :lol

Avatar winning an Oscar isn't going to boost ratings. They need to worry about making a better show, not who wins the awards or gets nominated.
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Last year's show was actually very good.
 
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DevelopmentArrested

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B-Rad Lascelle said:
I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that's the case THIS YEAR.

Next year they can give the award to a non-blockbuster crafted by the likes of the Coen brothers or Danny Boyle (both of whom are among my favorite directors along with Eastwood).

It is the scale of Avatar's blockbuster appeal which makes ignoring it in favor of a $12 million grossing Hurt Locker almost spiteful. And it's not like Avatar is a pile of trash. It's a better movie than Titanic was and is most assuredly the favorite film of 2009 for a lot of people even if you don't happen to know any of them.
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I'm sure it is the favorite film for a lot of people... who go to one movie a year. Box office results have no place in a discussion of a best film. Sorry. Also, FYI Slumdog was a big box office hit last year.
 
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Gigglepoo

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B-Rad Lascelle said:
I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that's the case THIS YEAR.

Next year they can give the award to a non-blockbuster crafted by the likes of the Coen brothers or Danny Boyle (both of whom are among my favorite directors along with Eastwood).

It is the scale of Avatar's blockbuster appeal which makes ignoring it in favor of a $12 million grossing Hurt Locker almost spiteful. And it's not like Avatar is a pile of trash. It's a better movie than Titanic was and is most assuredly the favorite film of 2009 for a lot of people even if you don't happen to know any of them.
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This sounds like the argument many people made for The Dark Knight winning (or at least being nominated) last year. There will always be a huge blockbuster that's actually good too. Avatar is a good movie, but it should not win just because it was popular. The supposed headlines crying about the disconnect between the Academy and the people will always spout the same nonsense because they do not understand it is an award for the film elite, not for the the best popcorn flicks.
 
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Jason's Ultimatum

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Matt Damon was awful in Invictus. How he was nominated I have no idea.

He should've been nominated for The Informant! but that shifts to best actor category, leaving him without a greater chance of winning. :lol
 
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benita

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I can't believe I didn't know until 5 minutes ago that Cameron and Bigelow were married.

That shit is unbelievable.

BTW i'm seeing the same old shit in this thread where people think that there is an "Oscar Committee" who get together in a room and discuss who should win what award and what would be best for ratings etc. Yeah, i'm sure people like Jennifer Aniston and Sacha Baron Cohen are part of some big conspiracy.
 
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Tobor

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benita said:
I can't believe I didn't know until 5 minutes ago that Cameron and Bigelow were married.

That shit is unbelievable.

BTW i'm seeing the same old shit in this thread where people think that there is an "Oscar Committee" who get together in a room and discuss who should win what award and what would be best for ratings etc.
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Cameron sent out his emails in 3D, it's rigged.
 
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Gigglepoo

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benita said:
BTW i'm seeing the same old shit in this thread where people think that there is an "Oscar Committee" who get together in a room and discuss who should win what award and what would be best for ratings etc.
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Aren't there thousands of members? That would be one chaotic deliberation.
 
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JGS

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Gigglepoo said:
I don't think that's true at all. Everyone I know has seen Avatar, but I don't know anyone who thinks it was the best movie they saw last year. Just because it was super popular doesn't mean everyone thinks it was the best thing ever. They just think it was fun and pretty to look at. By your logic, anything other than a blockbuster winning would elicit scorn and ridicule from the masses, and that just isn't the case.
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This is actually true to an extent for me. Most of the people I work with think Blind Side is the best picture of the year, a close second being Avatar, with a minority contingent going for Precious.

No IB, D9, or THL in sight.

Ratings will be high for this Oscar imo. Movies with big box office almost always raise ratings because people actually know the movies that are being nominated.
 
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Discotheque

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I'm not watching this shit this year but hopefully Best Picture goes to Avatar and Best Director to Bigelow. I think I like Avatar more than Hurt Locker when I look back at them.
 
tekumseh

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DevelopmentArrested said:
Most shocking post in this thread.
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I think it's your choice of Un Prophete over The White Ribbon. While I did think The Prophet was amazing, after a couple of days, I'd stopped thinking about it. The White Ribbon I've thought about for weeks. Perhpaps I was just mesmerized by how beautiful a film it is, or perhaps I'm just more inclined towards period type films, but TWR completely captured my attention and has held it for a long time. Both are head and shoulders above the other foreign nominees, I absolutely concede...
 
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Xater

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To get the discussion to another category: have you guys seen The Cove? That was one awesome documentary. The Cove is what happens when a thriller and a documentary have a baby. I really hope the film will win in it's category.
 
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YYZ

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Oh dear God I hope Inglourious Basterds wins just so everyone shuts the fuck up about this battle between Avatar and Hurt Locker, neither of which we will care about in 2 years. Where's the smiley for bitter tears? I will need it in a couple of hours.
 
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