I never read the lamestream media.
EDIT: I honestly don't know how Bernie can strengthen his foreign policy creds.
He really needs to get a foreign policy expert for his ticket.
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The 4th Democratic Primary Debate
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I never read the lamestream media.
EDIT: I honestly don't know how Bernie can strengthen his foreign policy creds.
He really needs to get a foreign policy expert for his ticket.
legacyzero
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campfireweekend
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The plan released tonight does not have the cost controls that other single payer systems have, so don't expect Healthcare costs to drop significantly in this country.
Christopher
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No
Healthcare shouldn't cost the outrageously high costs that if does. Taxes us more to pay for it is nonsense. Attack the medical field and their unregulated high costs
Yes they should.
People might not realize it, but universal healthcare would benefit the vast majority of Americans.
The American middle class needs to have to pay less to survive. A small tax hike working in conjunction with a massive decrease in health payment to make a net positive to spendable working class income while bettering health coverage seems lovely.
republicans should be banned from the emotion they call "offended"
at the very least they must be tarred and feathered with their favorites as punishment for their transgression - outrage culture, political correctness, thin-skinned, etc, etc. all invoked in hopes that people make the neural connection that decrying civility as a general principle means people might shockingly be mean to you too in retribution
BUT I DIGRESS
JesseEwiak
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Swing voters don't care about equality, they care about themselves.
40%-42% of either party would vote for their nominee if they killed a baby on stage while lighting a bald eagle on fire.
It's beautiful
don't care what the Reps do, they won't win the general anyway
Tesseract
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Thatonemoor
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O'Mallet said this in a earlier debate.
Forgotten_Taco
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That's certainly a simple way to look at it. If the extra taxes is less than current healthcare costs it is a net benefit for middle class.
Thinking is hard.
Bam Bam Baklava
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It's this kind of hubris and denial of reality that leads to losing.
Chezzymann
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Didn't we basically make a deal a long time ago with Saudi Arabia that we would protect them in exchange for their oil? Or was whoever told me that full of shit
Flying Toaster
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I would agree with you. I pay more now than before ACA. The fix didn't work. America needs to go single payer now.
legacyzero
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Tell me. What did you pay in healthcare for 2015, hmm?
disastermouse
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Dude. ALL the equipment I work with is broken and we're always under-staffed. I've seen cardio thoracic surgeons come up to a floor to prep yet another surgery after being in surgery for 16 hours already. We ain't over paid and we're trying to put out house fires with water pistols that cost $5k a crack.
The cost is coming from private insurance companies, colluding supply companies, and pharmaceutical companies.
I'm originally from America, but I live in a country with universal healthcare now. My taxes are higher, as a percentage of my income. But because there is no such thing as a health insurance premium here, I save thousands of dollars on healthcare every year. That's what Bernie's talking about.
Your Entertainer
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Yeah. I'm going to get fucking pumped about whoever the dem nominee is and get out there and vote for them so fuckin hard
O'Malley can't complain. That out-proportions his polling by a decent margin.
He's just planting the seeds for 2024 when he's a senator.
Wafflecakes
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The contrast between Hillary's ultra specific answer and Bernie's general blathering.
Epsilon-delta
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What high costs in the medical field are you specifically talking about?
ElectricThunder
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Blaming Iraq for Iraq and kinda Syria eh? Good luck with that line of magical thinking.
Ryouji Gunblade
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Too many people only looking at the tax angle. How simplistic.
With the current crop of candidates, it's seriously impossible for the Republicans to win the general election. The GOP is too fragmented and no candidate can gain signficant support from traditionally Democrat groups.
That's not really the problem. The problem is that the GOP media machine will blanket the airwaves with "Sanders will raise your taxes!" To them, it's an easy decision on whether to raise taxes or not.
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He probably knows that, but is being disingenuous because it suits him.
Your Entertainer
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Medical field meaning pharmaceutical and insurance companies, then yes
Otherwise, lolno
BoboBrazil
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Corporations will never allow universal healthcare in the US #truthfact
RumblingRosco
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Hard to get behind something when you don't know how much it will cost....1% tax on income is a lot different than a 5% tax on gas or a flat $2500 per person per year.
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