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The Doom 20th anniversery thread of ripping and tearing one's guts
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Nerdkiller
Membeur
Heh. I forgot how hilariously awesome the secret Club Doom level was in the PSX Doom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNpho45LnhE
You know, that wouldn't be a bad idea. Hell, how about an Oculus Rift mod for the game? It be a helluva 3D experience.
The_Player
Member
Not sure about the best in the series, but it's definitely not worse than original games. It's different, but it's what I love it for. Brilliant game; one of the few masterpieces I'm willing to replay on annual basis.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I remember playing through all of Doom/Doom 2/etc on my PC in 2000-2001 while listening to Metallica's 80s albums. I was 16-17 at the time so it was generally me catching up with stuff.
That said, I play Brutal Doom daily. There's more than enough level packs to make the game near-infinitely replayable. Not to mention the glory of the original games.
Well, as I said, it would be as simple as setting the version on the PSN from PS3 only to PS3 and Vita and popping it on the Vita store. Probably just the flick of a switch.
The PS1 version would be fine, it has Doom2 built in iirc.
speaking of that
is Classic Complete (PSN version) better than Final Doom (PS1)?
I can get a disc of Final Doom for a few bucks probably vs. $15 for classic complete (which I think I just missed a sale on, dammit)
Nerdkiller
Membeur
As I've stated...
It should be. PSX Final Doom only has a fraction of the levels that are available on the PC version (11 for Evilution and ONLY 6 for Plutonia).
Rickenslacker
Banned
Chocolate Doom released v2.0.0 for the 20th anniversary.
Hey gang, don't forget that Doom 3 BFG edition (which can be found for very cheap) came with Doom 1 and 2 on the disc as well. Love my PS3 version
And those who say the PS1 version of Doom rocked, you are right! I still have mine and never want to lose it. The soundtrack and the changes made to the lighting brought a new level of intensity to the games for me.
And those who say the PS1 version of Doom rocked, you are right! I still have mine and never want to lose it. The soundtrack and the changes made to the lighting brought a new level of intensity to the games for me.
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/12/john-carmack-doom/all
Q&A with Carmack on the creation of Doom and other things. Sorry if already posted.
Q&A with Carmack on the creation of Doom and other things. Sorry if already posted.
Doom was the game that convinced me I had to get a PC. I saw it running on a friend's 386 and my jaw dropped to the floor. I don't think it was even on the highest detail setting, but it looked so good I thought games couldn't get more realistic than that. And playing in the dark with headphones... holy crap. The cyberdemon was the scariest boss ever.
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KingGiddra
Member
So Doom II was the first videogame I ever played. My family had recently purchased a new computer and my mother asked the rep at the store what the best game for a five year old would be.
Those were different times...
I think what I remember most fondly about that series were the amazing sound effects.
I almost forgot, that amazing level design was great as well. Never not press space on every wall in the level.
Those were different times...
I think what I remember most fondly about that series were the amazing sound effects.
I almost forgot, that amazing level design was great as well. Never not press space on every wall in the level.
I don't recall Doom having graphics quality settings. Resolution was definitely fixed, can't remember anything else.
Doom 1 is meant to be played on ultra-violence for maximum fun. You're always in danger, the enemy count is high, but it never gets too frustrating.
Nightmare is not fun to just randomly try out. Since enemies keep respawning, your resources start dwindling fast. You can't wander around going "wait, how do you get the blue key again?" You have to have a "speedrun" planned out for that level if you're playing Nightmare.
Nightmare is not fun to just randomly try out. Since enemies keep respawning, your resources start dwindling fast. You can't wander around going "wait, how do you get the blue key again?" You have to have a "speedrun" planned out for that level if you're playing Nightmare.
It did, as I recall. One could choose "low" or "high" quality, where "low" would give you chunkier pixels in exchange for smoother performance. It made a big difference when running on a 386.
Lé Blade Runner
Member
I remember how mysterious the world of Doom seemed to me back in the day. The narrative element was at its bare minimum - there were a few walls of text ( literally ) between episodes, and a bit of a backstory, but that was it. No text-logs ( a lá Marathon ) or anything of that sort - just sprawling levels of mayhem and your own imagination.
Sure, I am an adult now, but I still get that kick from Doom. My imagination starts to expand the ( limited ) world. Here I am, slaughtering demons, but how - exactly - did the demons get here? Who were the researchers behind the teleportation-project that went so horribly wrong? Is the body of that marine a guy I knew, or just a guy?
In other words: I agree with your post. Current games tend to over-expose themselves with thorough narratives and what not. The greatest modern example of a good beginning ( and story-telling in general ) is BioShock, in my opinion. There you are, thrown into the ocean from a burning plane, and you discover this mystical underwater world. Slowly you start to notice that everything has gone to hell. You pick up audiologs that give you glimpses to the past glory of the world you are exploring. And your imagination does the rest. It is no wonder that the first BioShock - along with Doom - belong to my all-time Top 10 list.
There's no other SP game that I played as much as the Doom classic saga (doom/ultimate ,doom 2, final doom). Infinite replay value. Strictly with the classic keyboard-only control scheme, because using the mouse makes it too easy.
Amazing game. The Cyberdemon, the BFG. Legendary stuff.
Amazing game. The Cyberdemon, the BFG. Legendary stuff.
tokyopunchout
Member
I concur.
Pysched to see a DooM thread, tip of the hat to OP.
I still have my pewter Cyberdemon & DooM II is still my favorite game of all time. Built my first PC (a Cyrix 6x86 RIP) to play it & my friends and I rigged up a coax network. That's right - this was right before 10 base T was affordable.
Ignore the ethernet port in this pic & that's what you're stuck with.
Eurogamer republished a Doom retrospective from 2012.http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-15-retrospective-doom
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Doom is still fucking amazing. I fear that a lot of people today do not realize the impact it had on the industry.
I've watched someone playing the game properly just recently, and realized that I've never done that. It's made me want to do some no-save Nightmare play instead of treating it like a regular FPS with just getting through the levels, which mind you has been enough to keep it as one of my favorite games, haha.
One of these days I'll install a better MIDI pack, I swear ...
It'll be interesting to see what will come out of this some time. My guess is on Zenimax not liking that any time was spent on some pet projects rather than getting Doom 4 back in shape after Rage limped out of the gate.
When I was young I lived out in the middle of nowhere.
I remember me and my best friend riding our bikes like 15 miles to the public library to play DOOM shareware in the computer room for like 6 hours straight. They don't make games like that anymore.
This thread needs more DOOM theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf47DQj_2Gg
I remember me and my best friend riding our bikes like 15 miles to the public library to play DOOM shareware in the computer room for like 6 hours straight. They don't make games like that anymore.
This thread needs more DOOM theme:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf47DQj_2Gg
kaiju
Member
Happy Birthday Doom!
Time to re-watch the G4 Doom Documentary that came packed in the Doom 3 Limited Collector's Edition for Xbox.
http://youtu.be/lm0J__XczzY
Time to re-watch the G4 Doom Documentary that came packed in the Doom 3 Limited Collector's Edition for Xbox.
http://youtu.be/lm0J__XczzY
This will always be the theme of DOOM for me (I know, it's DOOM II, but whatever):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffl2ShaWyGM
SmashN'Grab
Member
I've got Doom and Doom 2 on the 360.
Are they ports of the base games, or do they also include Master Levels and levels from Final Doom and so on?
Are they ports of the base games, or do they also include Master Levels and levels from Final Doom and so on?
I'm pretty sure they do not include those levels, although I believe Doom 2 includes a completely new episode by the people that made the port.
Regarding Brutal Doom. I count myself as a Doom purist. Whenever I start the original Doom and Doom 2 I play it using Chocolate Doom or using DosBox. I also exclusively use the keyboard as I feel as though the difficulty has been adapted with the keyboard in mind. That being said, I can still appreciate Brutal Doom, especially when applied to Doom 2. I see it as a different game alltogether.
Lumpy Onion
Member
What a coincidence. I've been playing PSX Doom almost every night for the last week on my PSP via TV out. Didn't even know there was a 20th anniversary going on and it's the first time I've played it since it first came out on PC. Kinda miss the rockin tunes of the PC version, but the ambient stuff is nice too. Overall it's a great port though. I am kinda shocked at how enjoyable it still is after all these years.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
They're straight up ports. Only the PS3 version comes with Final Doom and Master Levels.
Also, if you forget how to beat the Cyberdemon...
MrCunningham
Member
Wired Q&A: Doom’s Creator Looks Back on 20 Years of Demonic Mayhem : http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/12/john-carmack-doom/ (new Interview with John Carmack)
Also John Carmack posted this on his twitter:
Bill Gates enters the big DOOM Tournament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0K58EfJSg
This was an actual video that Bill Gates made in 1995.he's in a trench coat and weilding a shotgun. It was an attempt from Microsoft to persuade game developers to move from DOS over to Microsoft's Direct X.
John Romero posted this on his twitter... Polygons 20 year anniversary retrospective on Doom: http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/10/5192960/celebrating-20-years-dooms-legacy-is-its-human-connection
Also John Carmack posted this on his twitter:
Bill Gates enters the big DOOM Tournament: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0K58EfJSg
This was an actual video that Bill Gates made in 1995.he's in a trench coat and weilding a shotgun. It was an attempt from Microsoft to persuade game developers to move from DOS over to Microsoft's Direct X.
John Romero posted this on his twitter... Polygons 20 year anniversary retrospective on Doom: http://www.polygon.com/2013/12/10/5192960/celebrating-20-years-dooms-legacy-is-its-human-connection
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Doom is one of those games I have really fond memories of, moreso than a lot of other games from the same period (or before or after really). I had a friend who lived in the same street who had it on PC and, considering I was a Mega Drive kid at the time, seeing it running was pretty special. The summer of 94 was largely spent with my brother and two friends playing it literally noon to night, loving every minute of it.
I bought a copy of my own when I got my 32X the following Christmas and enjoyed that a lot too, when it decided to work. I remember me and my bro getting a link cable and another copy of the game and playing multiplayer in separate rooms on the PS1!
So yeah, real landmark game for me, one I'l always love.
I bought a copy of my own when I got my 32X the following Christmas and enjoyed that a lot too, when it decided to work. I remember me and my bro getting a link cable and another copy of the game and playing multiplayer in separate rooms on the PS1!
So yeah, real landmark game for me, one I'l always love.
Apologies for the shameless plug here, but last week John Romero came by IGN and played through Episode 1 of Doom with me to celebrate the 20th anniversary. It was a dream come true for me as Doom was a life-changing game for me (as it no doubt was for many of you) and in the spirit of the thread I'm hoping you guys might enjoy it. It's basically a 90-minute interview...that we're playing Doom over the top of.
Terrible_Majesty
Member
can they remake doom using the cryengine? i know its not their engine, but its the best one and this has the potential to reach REmake levels of awesome
MrCunningham
Member
Apologies for the shameless plug here, but last week John Romero came by IGN and played through Episode 1 of Doom with me to celebrate the 20th anniversary. It was a dream come true for me as Doom was a life-changing game for me (as it no doubt was for many of you) and in the spirit of the thread I'm hoping you guys might enjoy it. It's basically a 90-minute interview...that we're playing Doom over the top of.
Watching John Romero walk around in the game and talk about the maps that he made is fascinating. Awesome video interview. . Looks like you guys are playing this on the Doomsday engine though. But then again, I guess Doomsday is one of the best ways to play Doom co-op on a modern PC without any hassle.
Also interesting that the game was developed on Next Step work stations.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
They managed to get the Knee Deep in the Dead episode remade in idTech4, but don't expect anymore than that, due to possible legal reasons.
jacob armitage
Banned
One of my all time favorite games. Its the game i go to and boot up whenever i'm bored of everything else. Put on nightmare and rush through levels, seeing how far i can get.
I own nearly every version of the game, including jaguar despite not owning a jaguar. I've played through tons of wads and mods of the game. My favorite probably being the newer brutal doom and using it on plutonium and TNT as they are the maps i'm least familiar with.
Superb game, and for me its a completely timeless one.
OP: This may have been mentioned but the PS3 port despite being of slightly lower quality than the 360 does add the better weapon select option from doom 2 360 into doom 1 & more importantly add the master levels for doom 2 and final doom.
I own nearly every version of the game, including jaguar despite not owning a jaguar. I've played through tons of wads and mods of the game. My favorite probably being the newer brutal doom and using it on plutonium and TNT as they are the maps i'm least familiar with.
Superb game, and for me its a completely timeless one.
OP: This may have been mentioned but the PS3 port despite being of slightly lower quality than the 360 does add the better weapon select option from doom 2 360 into doom 1 & more importantly add the master levels for doom 2 and final doom.