Doom: The Dark Ages And suspicions of the industry

it does say internet required on the box :lollipop_confused:

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Internet required because it needs to download 100kb unlock key on release date is a bit different than asking for a 85GB download of an entire game.
 
it does say internet required on the box :lollipop_confused:

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There's huge difference if the game just needs a constant internet connection, or you need to download the entire game.

Someone with a shitty internet can easily play this game because it just wants you to be online for whatever reason, but can take alot of time downloading a game they thought they could just go home and play.
 
I've seen so many comments online where people are straight-up saying they're avoiding games like Indiana Jones because they don't want inclomplete physical editions or a digital version of a licence key for rent. And who can blame them? If you're a collector

Game Collecting is stupid. These people who think the games will be worth big bucks 20 years from now is silly.

And they probally aren't even interested in playing the game in the first place. Which... if you are spending $70, I would hope would be the case.
 
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Game Collecting is stupid. These people who think the games will be worth big bucks 20 years from now is silly.

And they probally aren't even interested in playing the game in the first place. Which... if you are spending $70, I would hope would be the case.


Edit: Huh, why the shift to a more aggressive tone? I actually liked your first response better - my reply was meant for that one.

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I don't think it's fair to apply an either-or logic here. Of course, there will be some people who fit your example, but a large number of players and collectors who value physical media actually care about both aspects. They want to play the game, obviously, but they also want the assurance that the game remains in their possession and that they can access it independently at any time. At the very least, that's my expectation.
 
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I love how MS basically implemented Mattrick's scenario but now it's okay because reasons and some MS apologists gone too far defending this shit IMO.

BTW game already leaked in Russia via the boxed codes.
 
Required is required. But I agree, it would be nice for people with shit Internet to know it's a full game download.
Again required for what? when you pick up a fantasy novel and see "Companion App Required," does anyone in their right mind think "Oh great Just the intro here, I'll need to download the actual story"? C'mon. It's incredibly misleading.
 
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I would never buy a physical release of any game published by Microsoft or one of its first-party studios as I know that the disc itself is useless so why even bother? This is just Microsoft doing their best to kill the physical disc so they can monopolise digital pricing on Xbox and other consoles, while at the time "motivating" more people toward their GamePass subscription service where they know that once people are "in" that they likely will stay in.

I managed to cancel my GamePass subscription in May 2024 and now just buy the few Microsoft exclusives on PC where I can at least purchase cheaper keys on Steam from third-party sellers such as CDKeys.com. I also manage to avoid their terrible (in my experience) Xbox app on PC which has a nasty tendency to break game installs with patches/updates leading to much frustration trying to get the games working. Tellingly, this has not happened at all since I switched to playing Microsoft games on Steam (installed to the same drives as the previous GamePass version). Go figure!
 
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Well, no one forces us to buy stuff. So if a company tries to fuck with you...vote with your wallet.
Doom just became an auto /skip for me.

should I switch to 'senpai' to ease the trauma?
Then you have to change your profile pic, too, though.
sth like this would be appropriate
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Physical is dead? Wish I knew because I keep buying physical and using the ridiculously good 50% bonus trade-in at GameStop towards new games. I rarely pay more than 20$ for a brand new release.
 
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I know this is an unpopular take, but business is business. I'm already tired of these threads and complaints here and elsewhere. Games are different these days. Huge files, updates, patches, online, insane development costs (GTA6 cost 2 bil)... I don't know what you guys expect. I collect retro consoles and games and love it, but it's not the same thing anymore.

We need to get over it and talk about the games, because I don't think most of you have any clue about the business.
You're right,we should all stop complaining and be more like you,ready at any time to spread our cheeks and welcome that corporate dick!

Let's just "get over it".
 
And I even got switch Oled :)
Ok then your question was purposely misleading or?

"Was there a physical release of any game in recent memory that didn't require at least day 1 patch download?"

Bill Clintonying your way in arguing what the work requires means 😂?
 
I mean its not a new thing and better than a game that needs to install and then turn right around and make you download a day one patch anyway. But I agree it should be called out on the game case.
 
In my personal case, I care about physical media for the purpose of on selling or purchasing for cheaper second-hand. As long as there is still physical disc/media to pass on the license to use, I don't care that I have to download the full game.

I assume this issue only applies to collectors, but I don't understand, if in 20 years you pick up a PS5 disc for example and want to play it, are you even going to be able to use it in your old console? Games have been put half baked onto media for years now, it's probably going to be a shitty unpatched/incomplete/buggy version even if it's the full game? That's even if the console works, and who knows if future consoles will still be BC.

I'm more concerned about no physical release at all than the game not being on there.
 
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