fun facts about Doom
coincidence? I THINK NOT
I thought the japanese don't play FPS games.
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The Doom 20th anniversery thread of ripping and tearing one's guts
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I thought the japanese don't play FPS games.
Tye The Czar
Member
Here's my prediction for Doom IV:
Do what Capcom did for Mega Man 9.
Use an updated Doom engine or use similar classic Doom assets in idTech5, keep all the original gameplay, add new weapons, mechanics and enemies and there we go! Instant success!
Do what Capcom did for Mega Man 9.
Use an updated Doom engine or use similar classic Doom assets in idTech5, keep all the original gameplay, add new weapons, mechanics and enemies and there we go! Instant success!
As an oldschool doomer and a bit of a doom purist, and I think Brutal Doom is the greatest mod of any game EVER. I can't understand why people don't like it.
I also don't understand why people quote an entire 15+ paragraph post for a one-line response, maybe there's a correlation.
but anyone should know about DOOM by now
ah, so good. i remember playing it when it came out, what a fantastic experience. These DOS years were the best
Gamefreaks221
Member
I think il be playing DOOM tomorrow to celebrate the anniversary of the greatest fps ever.
Doom is legendary. Turned the gaming world upside and still the KING of FPS games in my opinion.
Echoing the 'Masters of Doom' book recommendation. A fantastic read.
Brutal Doom is an incredible mod, but I can understand not liking it, it does bring about some incredible updates, but Doom is classic for a reason really.
Still a blast in co-op too.
Echoing the 'Masters of Doom' book recommendation. A fantastic read.
Brutal Doom is an incredible mod, but I can understand not liking it, it does bring about some incredible updates, but Doom is classic for a reason really.
Still a blast in co-op too.
As a fairly new Doomer but not a total stranger to the franchise (I just got better at it and completed the games) I thought I would hate Brutal Doom as it'd ruin the integrity of Vanilla or Chocolate Doom.
Nope it's quite a important achievement in the mod community, it's actually pretty damn fun to try out and I had a lot of fun with it. Of course I'll always say the vanilla version is definitive but Brutal is a great great mod. Plus if it pulls in newcomers then it's even greater to generate interest.
True.
Yeah, I know I'll be casting some doomage tomorrow along with watching the races going on.
Version 3.0
Member
I creep slowly through the levels, trying to pick off enemies one at a time (where possible), scrounging for the secrets, and combing back over the whole level when I'm done to make sure I've picked up every bit of ammo, found and killed everything.
My times are often an order of magnitude above the (nearly impossible) par times.
They do, support Wrack on Steam. It's the only modern shooter I've played that feels anything like how Doom did, down to the gameplay and level design (okay, maybe more like Quake but it's similar).
Still unfinished but it's getting there.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
The PS1 version of Doom's soundtrack is superior to the original soundtrack. That music is the stuff that keeps a person awake at night no matter what their age is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPgaZmXMBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCKuHMHABw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPgaZmXMBE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCKuHMHABw
human onion
Banned
Aww yeah, motherfucking DOOM. I played both for the first time this year. I gotta say that I enjoyed 1 better than 2 though, the second just dragged too much.
boredandlazy
Member
Depends on the level though. Some levels don't provide you with a 'safe' spot where you can pick enemies off so you have to rush through.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
Because I mainly focused on the first Doom, since it is the 20th anniversary after all. It wasn't exactly a port of anything, either.
And I would like to see this Ghostbusters WAD.
Ok gotcha. Focused only on Doom 1 releases and remakes. Makes sense.
Don't agree with this.. at all. This music is more fitting for something like D64, but it feels like the antithesis of what Doom is supposed to be. 90s thrash metal runs in Doom's DNA, and the game was made to be a blood pumping, lightning paced death carnival. That music does not put me in the mood to run around at 60 scale miles an hour slaughtering demons.
I wonder how many people ever played the game with anything better than crappy sb or windows midi.
it's the only way to play.
I had to do this with Plutonia. Which CONSTANTLY put you in instant death situations.
yeah that looks like some sacrilege. give me some nice CHUNKY pixels.
best texture in the game right hurr:
What is that, fan-made?
John Rabbit
Banned
i see someone has not actually played doom or doom 2.
that texture scared the bejeezus out of me as a kid.
I was too young to play those games, but I remember my dad playing them and being weirded out.
The original's OST is classic, and the PSX mix is in a class of it's own, but I always thought Final Doom's OST was the best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egL9YxgOfP8&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKABJGvBHEw&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6oFkBT0cMs&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34N_D2ecAFc&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
As well as this one from Doom64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udjDdj4bcE0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egL9YxgOfP8&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKABJGvBHEw&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6oFkBT0cMs&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34N_D2ecAFc&list=PL3B430FD7AA77426E
As well as this one from Doom64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udjDdj4bcE0
Lé Blade Runner
Member
My childhood in a nutshell: Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario World > Doom, in that succession. Doom absolutely blew my mind as a kid. It was the scariest, most visceral game I had played up to that point, and I became obsessed with it. I still remember rumors going around that this one guy had completed Doom on Nightmare difficulty. I didn't believe it. Ultra-Violence was - and still is - the only way to play the game.
I remember getting my hands on a Doom level-editor ( I think it was called DCK or something similar ), and I spent countless nights making my own levels. I also found the WAD-community, and downloaded hundreds of user-made levels and episodes. I don't think that there is a single FPS franchise that I have played so much and so often throughout the years. Heck, I still play, and this thread gave me the itch to re-play Doom and Doom II yet again.
Brutal Doom is a great mod, but nothing beats vanilla Doom.
I remember getting my hands on a Doom level-editor ( I think it was called DCK or something similar ), and I spent countless nights making my own levels. I also found the WAD-community, and downloaded hundreds of user-made levels and episodes. I don't think that there is a single FPS franchise that I have played so much and so often throughout the years. Heck, I still play, and this thread gave me the itch to re-play Doom and Doom II yet again.
Brutal Doom is a great mod, but nothing beats vanilla Doom.
This reminds me of how creepy the original quake soundtrack was.
Moff
Member
I'm also among those who loved doom 3. but its still nothing compared to doom 1.
I replay it from time to time and did so last year. its amazing how great this game still feels after 20 years. its gunplay for the ages. it absolutely holds up to modern shooters, which isnt that surprising, the genre has degenerated to garbage in the last 10 years.
never cared much about doom 2 though, it had too many uninspired arenas in my opinion. I would really love to see an awesome hell on hearth some day, kind of a healthy mix between doom 1 and doom 3.
I replay it from time to time and did so last year. its amazing how great this game still feels after 20 years. its gunplay for the ages. it absolutely holds up to modern shooters, which isnt that surprising, the genre has degenerated to garbage in the last 10 years.
never cared much about doom 2 though, it had too many uninspired arenas in my opinion. I would really love to see an awesome hell on hearth some day, kind of a healthy mix between doom 1 and doom 3.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Astonishingly, I first played Doom on the SNES. I later upgraded when I got my Playstation, and then later I bought Ultimate Doom for the PC.
Doom was cool.
Doom was cool.
Robert J. Sullivan
Member
i'm playing doom 2 with brutal doom at the moment and it feels good, certainly my best fps experience of the year
it's just a bit sad that this title goes to a mod of a 1994 game but hey, a great game is a great game
it's just a bit sad that this title goes to a mod of a 1994 game but hey, a great game is a great game
grandwizard
Member
Doom is a truly incredible game, and one of the greats that belongs in the hall of gaming classics. I still go back and play some every year or so and every time in reminded just how well designed it is and how fun it is to play even after all these years. I will probably still be doing that in another 20 years.
There are an insane amount of great WADs and mods to check out for Doom. I recommend Doom 64 EX.
A word of warning though for people just getting into Doom: Please don't buy into the overhype of Brutal Doom. It's a fun diversion and well made but it is nothing but an exercise in excess. It doesn't build on what made Doom great in gameplay but instead the mass media's view of Doom (RIP AND TEAR BLOOD AND GUTS HOOAH) type stuff. There are better mods out there that play much better.
Great article on Doom's design: http://blog.danbo.vg/post/50094276897/the-most-misunderstood-game-of-all-time
There are an insane amount of great WADs and mods to check out for Doom. I recommend Doom 64 EX.
A word of warning though for people just getting into Doom: Please don't buy into the overhype of Brutal Doom. It's a fun diversion and well made but it is nothing but an exercise in excess. It doesn't build on what made Doom great in gameplay but instead the mass media's view of Doom (RIP AND TEAR BLOOD AND GUTS HOOAH) type stuff. There are better mods out there that play much better.
Great article on Doom's design: http://blog.danbo.vg/post/50094276897/the-most-misunderstood-game-of-all-time
No, just no man. Doom and Doom 2 are fast paced FPS which their original music fits best. Having the Doom 64/PSX music in those games do t fit at all. There is a reason why the music is so fitting for Doom64, it's graphical style makes it a lot scarier/better
Rickenslacker
Banned
There really is something to be said with this. The increase in fidelity and capabilities in machines make for games that want to contextualize everything for their story presentation, this is a double sided sword as most games really do just end up wasting your time with it and making it a slog to replay. Meanwhile I can start up Doom, select my difficulty, and there I am, E1M1 pistol in hand seconds away from an encounter. This wasn't unique to Doom at the time as even games with more of a narrative pull did the same, like Marathon. However id did stick with it for a while, Quake and Quake 2 also had you starting in the action while games were already beginning to show signs of the slow establishing start, and by Doom 3 they finally ditch their classic approach.
I think games now could learn a thing from going back to that style of opening; while Doom benefited from its fairly abstract presentation that helped with the map layouts being designed solely for their playability, there are still ways to incorporate its snappy gameplay focus while also trying to contextualize the world. Just immediately put me in the game, gun in hand, and design the world so that players can piece the clues together of what's happening if they care to. I can't tell you how many games there are that I find really fun that I just have no interest in touching again because of the slog that their cutscenes and slow establishment of the opening act and mechanics present. It's disappointing.
Twenty years? Holy moly, I'm old.
I recall that for the tenth anniversary one website did a '100 best WADs' feature taking ten from each year the game was out. I wonder if there's a followup...
I wonder if I've still got Rhythm of Doom somewhere. That's a MOD - in the music-created-by-a-tracker sense, not the 'modification' sense - that was a three-part song made up of Doom sound effects, including quite a good rendition of E1M8 with the 'marine' singing the melody.
Edit: Found the original 'best wads' thing from ten years ago. Gosh, the names! The Innocent Crew! TeamTNT! Memento Mori!
I recall that for the tenth anniversary one website did a '100 best WADs' feature taking ten from each year the game was out. I wonder if there's a followup...
I wonder if I've still got Rhythm of Doom somewhere. That's a MOD - in the music-created-by-a-tracker sense, not the 'modification' sense - that was a three-part song made up of Doom sound effects, including quite a good rendition of E1M8 with the 'marine' singing the melody.
Edit: Found the original 'best wads' thing from ten years ago. Gosh, the names! The Innocent Crew! TeamTNT! Memento Mori!
That's, like, the most reasonable treatment of the Jaguar I've seen in a long time. Thanks, OP.
I loved, loved, loved the Jaguar port of Doom and played many, many hours with it. Yes, it has shortcomings, but it was a real delight to play. And with JagLink and two consoles and TVs, you could play against a friend. Good times.
Is there a version of Doom that is playable on the PS Vita? I should check the PS Store...
Brerlappin
Member
Came here to post this. Doom PSX turned the soundtrack from ball rockin midi metallica rip offs, to "oh jesus christ is that a crying baby save me jebus". Fucking terrifying soundtrack. So good i modded it into my Brutal Doom installation. Shit is incredible.
Anyway, Doom. What a classic. One of the most important games of all time, and one of those rare accomplishments: a game as playable 20 years later as it was on release. The very definition of a landmark game.
grandwizard
Member
Some good retrospective articles on Doom's 20th birthday:
http://www.gamefront.com/halloween-special-doom-part-1/
http://www.gamefront.com/halloween-special-doom-part-2-mods/
http://www.gamefront.com/halloween-special-doom-part-1/
http://www.gamefront.com/halloween-special-doom-part-2-mods/
ive always dreamt of a next gen doom. Something that took the original concept of giant demons, a to b locations, and used a damage system ala Soldier of Fortune. Just huge enemies that blew apart awesomely by kickass meaty weaponary. I cant imagine it'd be all that expensive to build. Throw out cut scenes and all bullshit. All I need is that intro paragraph.
edit: Just wanted to add, the PSX DOOM version might have the scariest soundtrack ever in a game. Turn out the lights in any basement and play the music alone, and you will shit your pants.
edit: Just wanted to add, the PSX DOOM version might have the scariest soundtrack ever in a game. Turn out the lights in any basement and play the music alone, and you will shit your pants.
Doom 64 also has some creepy-ass music and both OSTs were made by mr. Aubrey Hodges: http://aubreyhodges.bandcamp.com/album/doom-playstation-official-soundtrack
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
By far the most influential game of all time (FPS, online, mods, great graphics & functionality, you name it - Doom had it) and easily one of the top five of the greatest of all time. And it's still incredibly playable even in its base form, with mods like Brutal Doom and Modern Warfare being a cherry on top.
Now to find a patch/mod containing the PSX soundtrack. This shit is amazingly dark.
Now to find a patch/mod containing the PSX soundtrack. This shit is amazingly dark.
trudderham
Member
Where's my 3DS port?! Imps chucking fireballs at me in 3D would be the most amazing thing ever.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Probably my favourite game of all time (it goes between it & SMB3, depending on the day).