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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull

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Anderson confirmed by the BBC:

Gary Anderson is the BBC F1 team's technical analyst. He had a 13-year career as an F1 technical director, starting with Jordan in 1991 before moving on to the Stewart and Jaguar teams, plus a second spell with Jordan.

He started his motorsport career in the 1970s, graduating to become Brabham's chief mechanic, before moving on to McLaren, and then designing cars in other areas of motorsport before joining Jordan for their debut F1 season in 1991.

Since leaving motorsport engineering, he has gained experience in broadcasting, working for Ireland's RTE, as well as F1 journalism.

Also:

Jennie Gow is BBC Radio 5 live's pit-lane reporter, a role she filled as a stand-in at the 2011 Canadian and Hungarian Grands Prix.

In 2010, she was the main presenter for the BBC's coverage of MotoGP. Prior to that, she presented motorsport programmes on several channels, including Channel 4 and Sky.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/bbc_f1_team/default.stm
 

Lucius86

Banned
You cannot start a new page in this thread any longer without a Webber pic.

Mark_Webber.jpg


Kubica, stop falling over and play F1 2011 with us, if you can't get in an F1 car :-(
 
Gary Anderson AND EJ? har har, the row irish village idiots is complete! bbc is truely going free to air, its like Euroshopper version of F1.

AND YES, I can say that because I am Irish
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
The reports claiming Kubica broke his leg are being rubbished now and people are claiming that he just twisted his ankle and that his tibia is fine.

Who to believe.
 

Dead Man

Member
Edmond Dantès;34211901 said:
The reports claiming Kubica broke his leg are being rubbished now and people are claiming that he just twisted his ankle and that his tibia is fine.

Who to believe.

I hope it is all a misunderstanding and he was tap dancing on someone else broken leg.
 

ANDY_098

Member
http://www.lotusrenaultgp.com/8177-Best-wishes-Robert.html

Lotus Renault GP is saddened to hear that Robert Kubica has suffered another setback in his battle to regain fitness for a return to Formula 1.

Everyone at the team would like to send our best wishes to Robert for a speedy recovery.

Team Principal Eric Boullier had this message for Robert: “Robert has shown fantastic courage and determination in his rehabilitation following the accident last year, and it is sad to hear that he has suffered this setback. On behalf of everyone at Lotus Renault GP, I would like to wish Robert a quick recovery”

Unfortunately I doubt they would send their best wishes if it was just a twisted ankle.

Chandhok has moved to JRM in the WEC
@karunchandhok: glad to confirm Ill be competing in the LMP1 class World Endurance Championship with JRM Racing! New chapter in my career

Given up on F1 by the sound of it.
 

Dilly

Banned
Edmond Dantès;34211901 said:
The reports claiming Kubica broke his leg are being rubbished now and people are claiming that he just twisted his ankle and that his tibia is fine.

Who to believe.

Actually, He's replacing Massa this year! If only. :(

I hope this is true though. I still miss him in F1.
 

ANDY_098

Member
Ferrari has developed its own reactive ride-height system for 2012 F1 car
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96971

Ferrari has already developed its own version of the Lotus reactive ride-height system for its 2012 car, and is now just awaiting final approval from the FIA over its legality.

Awfully quick to have their own system already. I presume either they were already working on it before hearing about the Lotus system, or they found out about the system a long time before we did.
 

Lucius86

Banned
Awfully quick to have their own system already. I presume either they were already working on it before hearing about the Lotus system, or they found out about the system a long time before we did.

Most likely the latter. There's certainly a lot going on we don't even have a clue about, as with most sports.
 

ANDY_098

Member
Wonder how many teams will have it by the start of the season.

Hopefully only a few :)

All the big teams will probably, it isn't a massively complex system. It may only require a rework of the upright to make space for the additional hydraulic components.
 
When asked for his thoughts on the possibility of Kubica replacing Felipe Massa to become his team-mate in the future, Alonso said: "I am very happy with Felipe..."

Alonso may be the only one who's happy with Massa's performance.
 

ANDY_098

Member
More costly in time wasted than money I'd imagine. They'd have to redesign, remanufacture and retest it. In the whole scheme of things that wouldn't cost that much but time spent doing this is not being used on more useful, performance oriented, tasks.

Also if the redesign is significant it could have an adverse effect on performance or packaging of other components.

Although in this case apparently all they are doing to remedy it is to put a few more sheets of carbon on to strengthen it.
 

S. L.

Member
also homologation is after testing, so they can send in as many revisions as they want during testing. it's not that much of a big deal imo
 

ANDY_098

Member
also homologation is after testing, so they can send in as many revisions as they want during testing. it's not that much of a big deal imo

This year the cars must pass the crash tests and be homologated before they will be allowed to take part in pre season testing.
 

S. L.

Member
This year the cars must pass the crash tests and be homologated before they will be allowed to take part in pre season testing.

nah, in the years before they didn't need to do any tests to be allowed for testing. now they need to pass the crash test before testing, but the homologation can be done at any point
 

ANDY_098

Member
They must be homologated before testing as well.

"I don't think there's any team that is convinced what is going to happen in February, because the rules have changed and you have to pass all crash tests and homologate it before the first test. But this is tough for all teams. So others can have the same doubts that we have."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96733
(penultimate paragraph)
 

S. L.

Member
They must be homologated before testing as well.

"I don't think there's any team that is convinced what is going to happen in February, because the rules have changed and you have to pass all crash tests and homologate it before the first test. But this is tough for all teams. So others can have the same doubts that we have."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96733
(penultimate paragraph)

yeah, but you can repeat the crash&homologate process
Making this early debut more difficult for this year are the revised rules around crash testing. Typically teams have passed their final crash tests in the days before the first race, but now teams have to have passed all these tests before they can start testing. With initial crash tests being carried out now and continuing into January, any failure of a structure to pass its test first time may impact on the teams ability to attend the first test with their new car. This process of crash testing is a form of homologation, but unlike 2009, teams are free to homologate and crash test new structures at any point. So some teams may opt to accept a heavier component that will pass the tests in order to go testing and have the race-spec lighter pass ready for Melbourne.
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/pre-season-testing-launches/
 

h3ro

Member
Goodmorning, F1-GAF!

Didn't post much last season, but watched every race! Can't wait for the new cars to be unveiled. :)

KIMI's back!! My favorite driver and the reason I became a tifoso. I'll have to split my loyalty next year between Lotus and Luca's team. Still can't stand Macca after all those car failures Kimi suffered. Sure some of them were of his own carelessness during races, but those damn engine failures while leading races! Wings falling off! Should have had two titles by the time he went to Ferrari.

I love when there is a technology du jour that all the teams try to copy hastily. Double diffusers, winglets, front exhausts and now, active brake triggered suspensions. Love it.

Here's to a fantastic season and I hope Kubica has a steady and full recovery with no more setbacks! Felipe will keep his seat nice and warm in the interim... :lol
 
Ferrari has developed its own reactive ride-height system for 2012 F1 car
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96971



Awfully quick to have their own system already. I presume either they were already working on it before hearing about the Lotus system, or they found out about the system a long time before we did.

Scarbs said he knew about it about a year ago so I can't imagine Ferrari and the likes were too far behind. I suspect it's a bit like the double diffuser, most of the teams thought about it but couldn't come up with a system that both satisfied performance requirements and Charlie Whitting. It seems Lotus have and it has opened the door for the rest.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the regs but are we going to see even more extreme rake angles on the cars? There is a set wing height when the car is a rest and by applying rake the front wing can sit lower in a relative sense to the ground, but the rake angle is limited by the dip of the front under braking and I assume some minimum ride height needed at the rear to get performance out of the blown diffuser. Now the brake dip has been negated by the new device and the banning of the blown diffuser has lessened, though not removed, the effect of the diffuser the cars could look very strange indeed.
 

ANDY_098

Member
I love when there is a technology du jour that all the teams try to copy hastily. Double diffusers, winglets, front exhausts and now, active brake triggered suspensions. Love it.

Not quite with this one!

Still, F1 arms races are always good, if a little controversial.

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Car Launches
Red Bull: 5th Feb
McLaren: 1st Feb
Ferrari: 3rd Feb
Mercedes AMG: Before 2nd test
Lotus: 6th Feb
Sauber: 6th Feb
Force India: Before 1st test
Toro Rosso:1st Feb
Williams: Before 1st test
Caterham: Late Jan
HRT: ???
Marussia: ???

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Scarbs said he knew about it about a year ago so I can't imagine Ferrari and the likes were too far behind. I suspect it's a bit like the double diffuser, most of the teams thought about it but couldn't come up with a system that both satisfied performance requirements and Charlie Whitting. It seems Lotus have and it has opened the door for the rest.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the regs but are we going to see even more extreme rake angles on the cars? There is a set wing height when the car is a rest and by applying rake the front wing can sit lower in a relative sense to the ground, but the rake angle is limited by the dip of the front under braking and I assume some minimum ride height needed at the rear to get performance out of the blown diffuser. Now the brake dip has been negated by the new device and the banning of the blown diffuser has lessened, though not removed, the effect of the diffuser the cars could look very strange indeed.

Potentially, although they will still be limited in the amount of rake by the front splitter. Unless they use some form of flexible one as RB were supposedly using. http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/category/flexible-splitters/
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Edmond Dantès;34211901 said:
The reports claiming Kubica broke his leg are being rubbished now and people are claiming that he just twisted his ankle and that his tibia is fine.

Who to believe.

maybe he was abducted by aliens

*ancientaliens.jpg*
 

Adamm

Member
Adrian Newey says that Red Bull did not hire Alguersuari as their reserve driver because he "did not want to join our team." #F1

Alguersuari is taking some big risks with his choices. Turned down a reserve driver place with Red Bull & a race seat with HRT.

I can understand turning down HRT, but a reserve drive for Red Bull? Surely that can only help you get a seat in 2013

Seems to me like Alguersuari & Red Bull must have split on bad terms
 

Osiris

I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Alguersuari is taking some big risks with his choices. Turned down a reserve driver place with Red Bull & a race seat with HRT.

I can understand turning down HRT, but a reserve drive for Red Bull? Surely that can only help you get a seat in 2013

Seems to me like Alguersuari & Red Bull must have split on bad terms

It's a risk for sure, but not entirely surprising given the comments made by Helmut Marko earlier this week, I guess Alguesuari felt that the reserve driver option at Red Bull would be a dead-end.
 

Shaneus

Member
Not quite with this one!

Still, F1 arms races are always good, if a little controversial.

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Car Launches
Red Bull: 5th Feb (Mark Webber: 6th Feb)
McLaren: 1st Feb
Ferrari: 3rd Feb
Mercedes AMG: Before 2nd test
Lotus: 6th Feb
Sauber: 6th Feb
Force India: Before 1st test
Toro Rosso:1st Feb
Williams: Before 1st test
Caterham: Late Jan
HRT: ???
Marussia: ???

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Updated with further details.
 

S. L.

Member
Alguersuari is taking some big risks with his choices. Turned down a reserve driver place with Red Bull & a race seat with HRT.

I can understand turning down HRT, but a reserve drive for Red Bull? Surely that can only help you get a seat in 2013

Seems to me like Alguersuari & Red Bull must have split on bad terms

That Newey said he turned down the reserve driver role with Red Bull was denied by RBR, some website pulled that story out of their ass
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Kubica confirms he has broken his leg just above the ankle, more surgery required.

Sutil is in court next week for the china gate assault on renault's Eric Lux.
 
I really doubt Kubica will ever get back in an F1 car. A decent one, anyway.

And if he does he'll be a shadow of his former self.

F1 career is pretty much over is my bet, one way or another.
 
I really doubt Kubica will ever get back in an F1 car. A decent one, anyway.

And if he does he'll be a shadow of his former self.

F1 career is pretty much over is my bet, one way or another.

Dont stop believing just like the Kimi fans when he left the sport :p

Yeah, Kubica's F1 future looks bleak :/
 
Can this be a trend we stick to?

As in, can it be a concrete rule in the OP that if ignored gets the user with the first or last post permabanned?

It would only do positive things for this thread.
 

Osiris

I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
As much as I like Webber, the contrarian in me is likely to post Luca Badoer and Alex Yoong pictures on new pages just for kicks. :p
 
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