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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull

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Not sure what they mean by more aggressive. Going off of the article, it looks like it means they're changing up the soft compound. That right?

I think it has more to do with tyre allocations

"Well we made it a little bit easier for the teams by using a particular soft compound all through the season, so they always had a central product which allowed them to optimise either the chassis set-up or the driving style," Hembery said. "Another year we won't do that. We'll be mixing the compounds a lot more, the compounds will be more aggressive, performances will be more aggressive."
 
Not sure if this has been covered over here already, but Ferrari has passed the second crash-test

Did that happen before to Ferrari? or is it a sign of being innovative this year?
 

Shaneus

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Burai

shitonmychest57
Damon was boring as fuck on F1 Digital + back in the day. It was like listening to white noise.

His attempt to stand in for Brundle in the commentary box on ITV a few years back was utterly unbearable too.

He's a nice guy and a good interview but he's an awful broadcaster.
 

Juicy Bob

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I wish the only options for getting the F1 channel didn't involve being forced to pay for all the Sky Sports stuff together. I don't want that, I just want the F1. Couldn't they have set it up as a one-off subscription channel on Freeview or something? I bet they'd make a lot more money if they did.
 

nny

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:D

http://www.thef1slate.com/thread/111111

DC David Coulthard
It's hard to believe a team like McLaren have only the 3rd fastest pit crew Martin.

MBrundle Martin Brundle
Well Red Bull have been setting the standard this year David, and the German efficiency at Mercedes doesn't surprise me that much either.

DC David Coulthard
I'm not sure I believe the numbers Martin, I've seen Hamilton do pitstops where the McLaren crew were so fast that I didn't even notice the mechanics working on the car.

MBrundle Martin Brundle
Christ, those were drive-through penalties David. Lewis has had a few of those this year.
 
I wish the only options for getting the F1 channel didn't involve being forced to pay for all the Sky Sports stuff together. I don't want that, I just want the F1. Couldn't they have set it up as a one-off subscription channel on Freeview or something? I bet they'd make a lot more money if they did.
You don't have to have a full sky sports package. If you've got sky HD then you get it automatically as well.
 

Adamm

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Damon was boring as fuck on F1 Digital + back in the day. It was like listening to white noise.

His attempt to stand in for Brundle in the commentary box on ITV a few years back was utterly unbearable too.

He's a nice guy and a good interview but he's an awful broadcaster.

Yeah.

I dont mind occassionally hearing from him in an interview, but listening to his 'expert analysis' will be dull as hell.
 

Adamm

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Called it! (As did alot of people)

Great to see Senna in a williams. But Maldanado & Senna does not seem like a very strong line up =/

Bye bye rubens then?
 
Vettel was grown in a Red Bull research lab, deep in the mountains of Austria. That's actually a picture of him at two weeks old, way back in 2006.
 

Shaneus

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Vettel was grown in a Red Bull research lab, deep in the mountains of Austria. That's actually a picture of him at two weeks old, way back in 2006.
After he travelled through time from the future, sent by Horner's great, great grandson. In the picture, he thinks "Dirt... I've read about this. I think this is what might be under the tarmac that covers 100% of the Earth from whence I came."


Edit: Rubens :(

I'm calling it: Not only the departure of a potentially valuable asset to the sport, but the beginning of the last chapter of Williams F1. At least Rubens could've offered them experience and technical knowledge, now they have two very unproven drivers in a very unproven car. There's no baseline to learn from. Idiots.
 

Xun

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Rubens noooooooo. :(

What a shame.

Also I'm still surprised Vettel can even drive an F1 car given his physique.

It gives me hope for a life in F1 in an alternate reality.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Rubens noooooooo. :(

What a shame.

Also I'm still surprised Vettel can even drive an F1 car given his physique.

It gives me hope for a life in F1 in an alternate reality.
Formula One drivers are like jockeys in this day and age; compact, lacking in muscle mass, but extremely strong and endurance levels that even tri-athletes would be proud of. Great, but very underrated athletes, just like ballet dancers in that respect.
 

Shaneus

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Edmond Dantès;34336999 said:
Formula One drivers are like jockeys in this day and age; compact, lacking in muscle mass, but extremely strong and endurance levels that even tri-athletes would be proud of. Great, but very underrated athletes, just like ballet dancers in that respect.
Vettel is like a ballet dancer. Webber is more like a gladiator.

Sounds about right.
 

Adamm

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Edmond Dantès;34336999 said:
Formula One drivers are like jockeys in this day and age; compact, lacking in muscle mass, but extremely strong and endurance levels that even tri-athletes would be proud of. Great, but very underrated athletes, just like ballet dancers in that respect.

Yeah, Its impressive how after driving for 2 hours in the Singapore heat they get out of the car & look like they have went for a casual drive with the Air-con on.

Im wrecked after driving 20 minutes in a go-kart :D
 
Yeah, Its impressive how after driving for 2 hours in the Singapore heat they get out of the car & look like they have went for a casual drive with the Air-con on.

Im wrecked after driving 20 minutes in a go-kart :D

those guys lose between 2-3kgs per race!!!!

I remember Alonso collapsing in Bahrain few years back when his drinking system didn't work. he lost around 5kgs in that race ONLY!!
 

Shaneus

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those guys lose between 2-3kgs per race!!!!

I remember Alonso collapsing in Bahrain few years back when his drinking system didn't work. he lost around 5kgs in that race ONLY!!
I remember a race where Webber's drink system failed too, but don't remember what happened to him after the race.
 

Burai

shitonmychest57
It's awful, but I guess they REALLY need the money.

It's the reality of the situation Williams are in. People can call them stupid or whatever but if they need money to keep going, then taking Barrichello would have been suicide. An F1 team needs money to operate and we've already seen Jean Alesi and Heinz-Harald Frentzen's talent and performance fail to save Arrows and Prost from the harsh reality that comes when you can't pay your bills.

Besides, if you can afford to pay a driver a salary there are probably better options than Rubens right now.
 
It's the reality of the situation Williams are in. People can call them stupid or whatever but if they need money to keep going, then taking Barrichello would have been suicide. An F1 team needs money to operate and we've already seen Jean Alesi and Heinz-Harald Frentzen's talent and performance fail to save Arrows and Prost from the harsh reality that comes when you can't pay your bills.

Besides, if you can afford to pay a driver a salary there are probably better options than Rubens right now.

Frenzen was talented?
 
Edmond Dantès;34338265 said:
Was better than Schumacher at junior level, but lacked the mental fortitude for F1. In fact, Schumacher was only one of a group of a very talented youngsters.

Doesn't surprise me. Schumacher not only became the greatest driver of all time, he also stole Frenzen's wife. :lol
 

mblitek

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Here's part of the WilliamsF1 Media release I got today

Q: Now you’ve been confirmed as a Williams driver, what are your thoughts heading into 2012?
BS: I’m really happy to be a part of a team with such a fantastic heritage. I am very proud that Williams has chosen me to race in what will be an important year for them. Everyone is extremely motivated for 2012 and it is great to be part of that motivation. It is true that they didn’t have the best season last year, but it is clear that the team is on a new path and everyone is pulling together to ensure that this year is a better one. I really hope that I can demonstrate what I can do, not only for the team, but for myself. It’s going to be interesting to see what we can achieve together.

Q: What are your objectives for the 2012 season?
BS: It’s difficult to set objectives before the season starts, but I intend to push the car 100% to the limit to get the maximum performance we can from it.

Q: What are your thoughts on the Renault engine having raced with it last season and what do you think Renault can bring to Williams in 2012?
BS: After a few races with the Renault engine in 2011, I’ve learnt a great deal about it. It is a very good unit with good drivability, which is another positive step forward for the team. As a driver, you need to have every weapon available to you operating at its optimum in order to put in competitive times throughout the race. I’m sure we can develop the car even further with the Renault engine and it will be interesting for me to be able to give the team feedback applying my previous experiences.

Q: What do you make of your new team mate, Pastor Maldonado?
BS: Pastor is a great driver. I’ve raced against him in GP2 and we always get along well. He’s been a very tough opponent in the past and he is going to be even tougher now we are both in the same car. We’ll certainly be trying to beat each other, but as teammates we’re going to work together to move the team forward.

Q: Can you talk us through what you have been working on at the factory so far?
BS: I’ve been at the Williams factory in Grove both before and after Christmas being really put through my paces in the simulator, on the track and in the gym. We’ve also done some evaluation work on the track (but not in an F1 car). The main purpose was for the team to evaluate me and to understand how to get the best out of me as a driver. But it’s also been really useful for me as it familiarises me with all the procedural things, such as learning the layout of the steering wheel before I get into the real car. When we start testing I won’t need to think about that so I’ll just be able to get on and drive the FW34.

Q: So you have had an opportunity to work with your new engineers?
BS: I think we’ve started off really well and now I’m looking forward to working with them more over the season. The relationship between a driver and engineer is something that few people can understand. You need mutual respect, to understand each other well and know how to work together in order to really gel from the start. That relationship and continuity can make such a difference to your overall performance.

Q: What started your career in motorsport?
BS: I was a motorsport fan from a young age and of course there has been a great influence from my uncle, but ever since I first put my feet into a go-kart I never wanted to do anything else. I’m very privileged to be able to do what I love, as to race in Formula One has always been my dream.

Q: You were once quoted as saying that, given the chance to drive any legendary Formula One car from the past, you would choose the 1993 active-suspension Williams. How important is it to you to now be a part of a team with such a motorsport heritage?
BS: The team has an amazing history and walking around the museum just makes me drool! I’ve seen many of these cars on track and always wondered how it would feel to actually race them. I’ve never been in one, so I think it would be good to get a run in the active ride car at Goodwood, just to get a feel!

Q: You have considerable support from Brazil, can you tell us about that?
BS: I feel very proud to be Brazilian right now. Knowing I have such great support behind me, people who have been there since the start, gives me such a great feeling. Knowing people have chosen me to bear their name gives me even more motivation to create good memories for them.

Q: Your uncle, Ayrton, raced for Williams. How significant is it for you to be joining the team?
BS: It will be very interesting to drive for a team that my uncle drove for. Quite a few of the people still here actually worked with Ayrton and I’m happy that they are now giving me the chance to prove myself here. Hopefully we can bring back some good memories and create some great new ones too.

Q: Fast forward to this time next year, what achievements would you be happy with?
BS: I hope that by the end of 2012 we can say we extracted 100% of the performance from the Williams-Renault FW34, whatever that may be. That is the most important thing. I just want to get the maximum possible out of the car and make the most of this opportunity. It is such an important year for both the team and myself as it will help shape my future. I hope that future will be long and successful, and it all starts here.

Hopefully Williams can bring its A-game as well as the drivers.
 
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