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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull
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Thanks, let's hope so.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17136087
pretty good button interview (video)
pretty good button interview (video)
Edmond Dantès
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Is he teasing or genuinely concerned? I'll go with the former.
mclaren777
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What do you think the sensors are for, and why aren't the cables being run through the internal structure of the wing/nose?
my guess would be optical sensors for distance/height.
i.e. measuring the flex.
why outside? dunno, probably didn't matter for this test
No idea what they are measuring.
The reason they are run externally is because if they are measuring flex then adding in holes to route the cables would affect the mechanical properties (varying the amount of flex) of the wing making any collected data unreliable. Even if they are not for measuring flex or height then creating a custom wing with room for internal cable routing would be of little value as it would only be used a few times this year probably and the time of making the custom wing would be better used elsewhere.
Anyone being reading any of the news out today that Renault & Mercedes have found a loophole in the exhaust blowing ban?
Is rumoured its all going to come to a head in March just before the Australian GP with the FIA poised to ban this workaround.
Looks like Autosport have got wind of this too:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97662
Is rumoured its all going to come to a head in March just before the Australian GP with the FIA poised to ban this workaround.
Looks like Autosport have got wind of this too:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97662
I seem to remember the Mercedes engine produces a certain amount of blowing as standard, just the way it is designed and they have for a long time. Something they do for reliability I think.
This was a contributing factor to the Silverstone fiasco last year, first all blowing was banned then Merc said they needed some to work reliably. Followed by Renault and Ferrari being allowed some to compensate. The problem was Renault use butterfly throttles rather than barrels (which the others use). So it was hard to definitively set a limit of how much the throttle could remain open as even when both were set to the same percentage of 'openness' one type was slight more open due to it's geometry.
This shows that since the methods (hot and cold blowing) and engine design vary so much between teams it will be hard to definitively ban all methods of blowing without disadvantaging all teams equally.
Besides, the engine is essentially a pump which produces a huge amount of air flow anyway, and now the whole concept has become standard it will always remain an important aspect of car design. Even with no special blowing modes and a traditional periscope exhaust there is still performance to be gained. I'm pretty sure I've been told that a bad exhaust (periscope variety) could cost around a tenth per lap. So completely outlawing off-throttle engine modes will still result in some performance to be gained from positioning.
I think the best approach is to give free rein over engine modes, but to tightly limit the positioning of the exhausts, even more so than now.
Edit: I've done some research into it and Renault used cold blowing for valve cooling, again for reliability, where Mercedes (and presumably Ferrari) used hot blowing for reliability.
Edmond Dantès
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Not as effective as the Trulli version.
Edmond Dantès
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BBC schedule for non-live races.
Sky Sports track guide:
http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/grandprix/australia/circuit-guide
Far superior to the BBC's previous efforts.
Sky Sports track guide:
http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/grandprix/australia/circuit-guide
Far superior to the BBC's previous efforts.
I haven't read the article, but is that Renault and Mercedes the teams or the engine manufacturers?
Sleeplessnights
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Edmond Dantès;35421016 said:
Not as effective as the Trulli version.
Where's the Trulli version? Went a couple of pages back and couldn't find it.
I wish they would leave the rules alon during the year unless it's a safety issue. If a team can figure something out, they should be rewarded for that.
The engines. It´d hit every team using Merc and Renault engines.
There is no Renault team anymore, so it's the engine manufacturers.
Psychotext
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I wonder why Webber has done so few laps so far today.
Psychotext
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That would be very, very bad for them.
i'd say yes, they can add some layers of carbon fiber fabric on the weak parts (if the space allows it) and continue testing with that since the chassi is legal and passed crashtests and at the same time manufacture a new 'fixed' one for Melbourne and get it passed before that. (edit: talking about the jerez chassi, not the broken one)
also:
If the suspension has ripped a hole in the chassis then they will probably need to manufacture a new one.
Foliorum Viridum
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I watched the highlights of Budapest '11 last night in bed. What a great race that was.
I'm slowly making my way through the highlights of last year to hype myself up.
I'm slowly making my way through the highlights of last year to hype myself up.
mclaren777
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Are you watching the official Formula1.com race edits or something else?
SunhiLegend
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Been doing the same recently. Almost finished watching most of last season in highlight form.
Don't know about F.V but I've been watching the BBC 60 minutes highlights.
Foliorum Viridum
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Yeah I'm watching the BBC ones too. Whenever I downloaded a race in HD last year I always downloaded the highlights as well to save for later viewing.
My F1 HDD is nearly full... might need a bigger one by the end of the 2012 season.
I still don't know what I'm going to do for races that Sky have. I think I'll download the Sky broadcast for the full race in HD, but also get the BBC highlights for their opinions on things.
It's just going to be so much more complicated than it needs to be.
My F1 HDD is nearly full... might need a bigger one by the end of the 2012 season.
I still don't know what I'm going to do for races that Sky have. I think I'll download the Sky broadcast for the full race in HD, but also get the BBC highlights for their opinions on things.
It's just going to be so much more complicated than it needs to be.
Psychotext
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Webber doesn't seem to have done many laps today.
mclaren777
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I'm really hoping they're closer to the mid-pack, but that hope fades with each passing test day.
Myoclonic Jerk
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that just proves that testing times means nothing..
Indeed. I thought about posting that but I assumed we all knew it already, lol. I just posted it for anyone interested in total laps mostly.
mclaren777
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I think this is far more meaningful...
you have to remind people every 30 minutes during testing,
too much doom and excitement otherwise
you have to remind people every 30 minutes during testing,
too much doom and excitement otherwise
Haha, true. I think we're all ready for Melbourne and the testing is teasing us.
I think this is far more meaningful...
So Mclaren did more km in two tests than in whole last year's preseason tests...
brotkasten
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you have to remind people every 30 minutes during testing,
too much doom and excitement otherwise
But Ferrari *is* doomed!
mclaren777
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Hopefully.
from various Twitter comments and here
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Form...4-f1-a-hundred-reasons-for-a-first-smile.aspx
Ferrari was quite happy with today's test
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Form...4-f1-a-hundred-reasons-for-a-first-smile.aspx
Ferrari was quite happy with today's test
Edmond Dantès
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