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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull

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DD

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My guess:

1-McLaren
2-Red Bull
3-Lotus
4-Ferrari
5-Mercedes
6-Force India
7-Williams
8-Sauber
9-Toro Rosso
10-Caterham
11-Marussia
12-Hispania
 

xptoxyz

Member
Don't know if this was posted yet, only just saw it. New Circuit of the Americas time lapse.

First one since the troubles happened. I hope the 2 GPs get the US interested in the sport, although the lack of a team and driver with US Nationality will make it harder for the more "patriotic" audience.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Don't know if this was posted yet, only just saw it. New Circuit of the Americas time lapse.

First one since the troubles happened. I hope the 2 GPs get the US interested in the sport, although the lack of a team and driver with US Nationality will make it harder for the more "patriotic" audience.

It can thrive here, they just need to give it a solid track not shoehorn it into an existing one like they did before.

And they need to have proper coverage. Show a preshow to get people educated and interested in the cars, the tech and learn the people around F1. Right now Speed/Fox start coverage with so little time beofre the race you cant see or learn anything. You are thrown into the sport and unless you are a veteran you are lost.
 
How a couple of magazines rank the teams:

Formtabelle-nach-8-nach-12.jpg

Rank them on what?

My guess:

1-McLaren
2-Red Bull
3-Lotus
4-Ferrari
5-Mercedes
6-Force India
7-Williams
8-Sauber
9-Toro Rosso
10-Caterham
11-Marussia
12-Hispania

Similar, but I'd swap Mercedes and Lotus around.

Are we just rating teams based on their likability? or is it something else?
 
Kimi insists motivation was never an issue



"People always talk about motivation, but the people who write it probably don't even know me,"

"It's not a lack of motivation if your car is shit and even if you drive your best and still can't get a good result. My feeling is that I drove one of my best years in my last year for Ferrari. I've never had a problem with motivation."

I think he did, especially after Ferrari stopped developing the car mid-season and he was putting that shit of a car on podiums and won a race!
 

Igo

Member
Where is everyone's belief in McLaren coming from? I'm a McLaren fan and yet, I just can't get my head around it.
 

Shaneus

Member
Edmond Dantès;35517036 said:
You missed the most important bit:
41Prl.jpg



They have the best looking car this season.

Must be worth something, right?
I really don't think they do. I'm still sticking with the STR for the best (to me) looking car this year. Chrome/silver and red's been done, there's not that much that's genuinely exciting about it. Blue & gold is where it's at this year.
 

Shaneus

Member
I... um... damn. Hot.

Oh shit. Just opened this tab at home from last night and was talking about the Ferrari. Really. Although...
 

Adamm

Member
One thing's always bothered me about that... why 107%? Why not 105% or 110%? It seems oddly specific for something that appears to be an arbitrary cutoff point anyway.

105 is too little, 110 is too much - so go with 107!

Or at least thats what I always assumed :p
 
Will RTL be showing F1 this year? If so we may have a plan to watch the non-BBC F1 races...

Yes: http://robssatellitetv.webs.com/freetvformula1.htm

Third Practice, Qualifying, and Races will all be available Free to Air

So, how to get it, the best option is the German RTL television channel at 19 degrees east, this channel shows third practice, qualifying and the races, 19 degrees east is a strong satellite and can be received in the UK on a Sky 'minidish' (that's the oval type dish), in the ROI I would advise that a 60cm 'round' dish would be better. if you have an existing satellite dish pointing at 28 degrees east for Sky/Freesat it is possible to use a 'bracket' to add another LNB (for 19 degrees east) to the side of the existing dish LNB (used for 28 degrees east) but this type of solution comes with problems with signal, dish size and type of bracket/LNB so you would need to contact me for advice e.t.c., the better solution is to get a separate dish and LNB, like I said contact me for advice personal to your location and requirements, as for the receiver, a 'Sky' or 'Freesat' receiver will tune in 'foreign' channels, the 'Sky' receivers are not very user friendly with this, the 'Freesat' receivers are more user friendly with this so a 'Freesat' receiver would be better, also there are stand alone free to air receivers available, these are non 'Sky', non 'Freesat' receivers and have absolutely no problems with finding and viewing 'foreign' TV channels. If you have decided that this is for you then the first thing you need to do is check that your location to see if you can receiver 19 degrees east and to see where would be the best place to put a satellite dish for 19 degrees east, this is where DISHPOINTER comes in, this is a neat little aid, input your location, input 19.2 E ASTRA 1........, click on Earth, then zoom in on your house place a marker to where you think your dish should go, it then tells you if there are any obstacles and most importantly which direction to point the dish, simples!. contact me for advice personal to your location as your location is paramount to the options available to you and your requirements/needs regarding equipment/what you requirer is dependant on your location and what equipment you currently have, like I said contact me and I will give you all the advice you need personal to your location.
 
Edmond Dantès;35517433 said:
There was doubt over his overtaking ability up until recently, especially during his Honda years.

I like Jense, but all of his overtaking rep comes from 2009 in the Brawn where his car was the only car in the field that could follow another car closely. Probably the Brawn's greatest strength and the Bull's greatest weakness.
 

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
I like Jense, but all of his overtaking rep comes from 2009 in the Brawn where his car was the only car in the field that could follow another car closely. Probably the Brawn's greatest strength and the Bull's greatest weakness.


So his overtaking rep is nothing to do with going from last to first in 30 laps in Canada last year?
 

dubc35

Member
So his overtaking rep is nothing to do with going from last to first in 30 laps in Canada last year?

..and close to overtaking Alonso and Vettel in Monaco. Even if he didn't I would have really liked to see the end of that race without the red flag.

e* I guess "close to overtaking" isn't overtaking lol, so not the best example. I'd still like to see the end of that race sans red flag.

e2* I haven't been up on the rules for this year. Did they add anything that requires drivers to go out in Q3 instead of staying in and taking P10?
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Marussia failed the FIA crash test and will now miss the final test this week in Barcelona.

No guarantee they will make the Australian GP now and if they do they will not have had any running at all.
 

Leonsito

Member
Marussia failed the FIA crash test and will now miss the final test this week in Barcelona.

No guarantee they will make the Australian GP now and if they do they will not have had any running at all.

Wow, so it's possible to be more a joke of a team than HRT, amazing.
 

Dilly

Banned
Marussia failed the FIA crash test and will now miss the final test this week in Barcelona.

No guarantee they will make the Australian GP now and if they do they will not have had any running at all.

Failing harder than HRT, amazing.

Glad they fired D'Ambrosio.
 

Lucius86

Banned
Can we stop hating on the smaller teams? It kinda makes me sad.

I want as many cars as possible on the track - these guys are doing their best at competing in one of the most advanced sports in the world. They employ plenty of people, which in this current climate cannot be knocked, and heck they may crash into a Ferrari for good measure.

I hope Marussia get a car ready at least for Melbourne.
 
Doing their best at some point should really stop being a valid excuse. You could put me in a car and I'd certainly do my best, but odds are I wouldn't belong on the grid either. Entering as a brand new team is certainly not easy, but there needs to be a point where sufficient speed and professionalism has been attained or they need to go. Only one of the three new teams has remotely seemed to justify their presence in F1, while on the other hand, if I'm remembering right, there have been moments where the HRT car has been lapping around the same time as GP2 cars. They just have no place in F1, and if they're still struggling this much after several years I don't see how anything short of someone new completely taking over the team will help.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
You never know, one of these teams may end up being the next Minardi; purchased by a larger entity and propelled up the grid with better finances.
 
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