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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull

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mclaren777

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Idiot.

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mblitek

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Sorry for the double post type deal but I figured you guys wouldn't mind…hopefully! I forgot to add that I also have posters.

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They are printed out on A5 (210 x 148 mm or 8.3 x 5.8 in) high-quality card stock paper and have a saddle stitch down the spine. $18usd. All sales proceeds go to helping me launch greaseandgears.com

Then here are the posters:

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If you can't tell the posters and booklets have the layout of each track on the front and then part of the country's flag or other detail inside the track layout. Then, along the bottom are the race dates and places. The poster is A3 (297 X 420mm or 16.5 x 11.7 in) and printed (not inkjet but from a professional printing service) on that same high quality card stock. These are a bit pricey though as I did not order a big production run at all so each poster is around $35usd.


So once again if you are interested let me know and I'll give you my PayPal address so you can send me the money and what you wanted!
 
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mblitek

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mclaren777 said:
The same thing happened to me yesterday. Does your site not support Chrome?

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The website isn't open yet or anything like that. I accidentally left that up there when I was playing around. Whoops!

I am still waiting on my graphic designer to send me the three different brand directions and identities and then from there I can branch off into one of the directions she thinks might be good.
 
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Shaneus

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Any good? Even in a bad kinda way?

(sorry for the off-topic, guys. we'll get back to your regularly scheduled programming shortly)
 
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DrM

Redmond's Baby
Quite bad, at least episodes that i saw. A lot of BS, but quite amusing if you do no take it seriously :)
 
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Yen

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Shaneus said:
Any good? Even in a bad kinda way?

(sorry for the off-topic, guys. we'll get back to your regularly scheduled programming shortly)
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Such ignorance! It was a big GAF (and general Internet) meme. "Therefore, Aliens" he'll be on knowyourmeme.
 
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Nevasleep

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Red Bull are flying out a new car to use in the final two days of testing in Barcelona this weekend.

The reigning world champions will unveil a new package that reportedly includes new front and rear wings and a heavily revised exhaust on a re-designed chassis.

The revisions are so extensive that the team have had to bolt them onto a new chassis after round-the-clock work at their Milton Keynes HQ.

The 'new car' is being flown out overnight, with team principal Christian Horner and chief designer Adrian Newey, conspicuous by their absence at the Circuit de Catalunya on the opening two days of the third-and-final winter, also flying out from England.

Sky's pitlane commentator Ted Kravitz said: "It's not only parts, it's a whole new car that's being flown out from the Red Bull factory in Milton Keynes.

"So for all these mechanics in this [Red Bull] garage that's the end of work with this particular chassis.

"This will be chassis number one and rather than fit all the new parts to chassis number two overnight, which would involve a lot more work for these guys, they've decided to fly out the new car.

"Now that's needed agreement from some of the other teams but what it's going to mean is we're expecting to see a significantly different car when it rolls out at nine o'clock. So this test is about to to get much more interesting."
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Adamm

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Sky sports also predict the running order in the first race

1/2) Red Bull/McLaren
3) Lotus
4) Mercedes
5) Ferrari

:eek:


Also flicking through the channels i went to the Sky F1 channel again & they were showing a time lapse of the building of the Williams FW34. Not just a 20 second time lapse, it lasted about 10 minutes! Some serious work goes into building those cars.
 
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ANDY_098

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I wouldn't put Ferrari that far down. I do think they will be slower than RB and McL though.

I think at the start of the season the order will be this:

1) RB
2) McLaren
...
3) Ferrari
...
4) Mercedes
5) Lotus

With RB and McL very close and Lotus and Merc very close, Ferrari somewhere between the two.

Rest of the grid is too close to call from what I know of their times, STR seem pretty good though so maybe a surprise from them. Caterham may be able to break into the lower midfield as well.
 
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DD

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I know that you guys tend to bash Massa, but I honestly have much more respect for him than I have for Rubens. At least Massa used his fame and position to actually do something for the brazilian auto racing. Massa and his father created the "Formula Futuro", which is a category for boys who come out of the go karts. Before the Formula Futuro, these boys basically had no place to go, since the south american Formula 3 is a big pile of crap since the break up between Brazil and Argentina many years ago.

Massa also created the "Trofeo Linea", to forming up touring car drivers, although the Trofeo Linea is not so much necessary, since the touring car races are actually really strong in here, with the Mini Cup, Audi DTCC, Mercedes Benz Grand Challenge, Porsche Cup, GT3 and GT4 (my favorite one, with Ferraris, McLarens, Aston Martins, Maserattis, Corvettes, Vipers, etc.), Troféu de Marcas & Pilotos (similar to BTCC and WTCC) and the Stock Car Brasil (the biggest one here. It's some kind of mix betwen Nascar and V8 Supercars).

Rubens, in the other hand, just think about having fun; in doing what he loves most. I'm not condemning him for that. He's absolutely right, but I think that Massa deserves more respect tham him...

PS: sorry for my english. :p
 
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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Daniel Dantas said:
I know that you guys tend to bash Massa, but I honestly have much more respect for him than I have for Rubens. At least Massa used his fame and position to actually do something for the brazilian auto racing. Massa and his father created the "Formula Futuro", which is a category for boys who come out of the go karts. Before the Formula Futuro, these boys basically had no place to go, since the south american Formula 3 is a big pile of crap since the break up between Brazil and Argentina many years ago.

Massa also created the "Trofeo Linea", to forming up touring car drivers, although the Trofeo Linea is not so much necessary, since the touring car races are actually really strong in here, with the Mini Cup, Audi DTCC, Mercedes Benz Grand Challenge, Porsche Cup, GT3 and GT4 (my favorite one, with Ferraris, McLarens, Aston Martins, Maserattis, Corvettes, Vipers, etc.), Troféu de Marcas & Pilotos (similar to BTCC and WTCC) and the Stock Car Brasil (the biggest one here. It's some kind of mix betwen Nascar and V8 Supercars).

Rubens, in the other hand, just think about having fun; in doing what he loves most. I'm not condemning him for that. He's absolutely right, but I think that Massa deserves more respect tham him...

PS: sorry for my english. :p
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It is quite harsh, but I certainly don't think it's a criticism of Massa as a man. He should be respected and commended for the fighting spirit that aided him in recovering and actually returning to F1. But Massa the F1 driver is a different story. Is he really the man to push Alonso to the limit and to aid Ferrari in winning constructors titles? I just don't think he is any more.

And your English is fine.
 
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DD

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Edmond Dantès;35666281 said:
It is quite harsh, but I certainly don't think it's a criticism of Massa as a man. He should be respected and commended for the fighting spirit that aided him in recovering and actually returning to F1. But Massa the F1 driver is a different story. Is he really the man to push Alonso to the limit and to aid Ferrari in winning constructors titles? I just don't think he is any more.

And your English is fine.
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Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know if he's not the same since the accident or if Alonso is (even hating him, I have to admit) is a brilliant driver...

...or both.
 
moojito

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I'm 100% confident that the first 4 races of the season will go like this.

1)favourite team
2)team that did well last year
3)team I like the livery of
4)team that has a driver I kind of like

Honestly, what are these completely random predictions all about ;op
 
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DD

Member
Sorry to bring back the Prost subject in Senna's doc, but I just finished reading an interview that Mansel gave for the F1 Racing magazine, from England, and when asked about his biggest adversary he said (not the exact words, the text was translated to english to portuguese, and now I'm translating back to english): "Senna was the toughest on the track. Piquet was tough on the track, and very cruel out of it. And Prost was really tough off the track with all the politicking, but less difficult on it."

I think it confirms the point of view presented in the documentary. Not that it makes Prost less brilliant. He was awesome.
 
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Shaneus

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moojito said:
I'm 100% confident that the first 4 races of the season will go like this.

1)favourite team
2)team that did well last year
3)team I like the livery of
4)team that has a driver I kind of like

Honestly, what are these completely random predictions all about ;op
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1) Mark Webber
2) The rest
 
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DrM

Redmond's Baby
Mclaren also got new parts yesterday and they will use it today. They have been doing car setup work and pitstop practices on first two days, so now is the time for new stuff.
 
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Bo-Locks

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So lots of short stints for RB and McLaren with all the new parts today I expect. McLaren have already done enough testing anyway.

ANDY_098 said:
I wouldn't put Ferrari that far down. I do think they will be slower than RB and McL though.

I think at the start of the season the order will be this:

1) RB
2) McLaren
...
3) Ferrari
...
4) Mercedes
5) Lotus

With RB and McL very close and Lotus and Merc very close, Ferrari somewhere between the two.

Rest of the grid is too close to call from what I know of their times, STR seem pretty good though so maybe a surprise from them. Caterham may be able to break into the lower midfield as well.
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I agree with all of this.
 
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Staab

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Apparently there was a massive rumor yesterday on Twitter about Massa being sacked and it was subsequently denied by Ferrari:

@InsideFerrari: "It's a shame Massa's been too busy to keep up to date [with the rumour], as he's been in the usual briefing with the engineers. Maybe the person writing this tale does not realise that Carnival ended some time ago..."
 
mclaren777

mclaren777

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It appears to have a strip above the diffuser, similar to what Ferrari has been testing. And the exhaust position looks like a copy of Sauber's current design.

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I find the shape very interesting. It uses similar principles to a NACA duct but then it aims the stream directly at the wheel. Bizarre.

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dalin80

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Hmmm.. At first glance for me I would say the actual exhaust travels straight down that column which leads on from the top edge of the sidepod and then joins the floor just before it raises. The bit of exhaust exit we see is actually fake.

yellow- fake

red- actually exhaust pipe

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dalin80

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pappe said:
how can u possibly know just by looking at the pictures that those exhausts are 'fake' ?
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Because iam a all powerful Deity.


That and I don't, its speculation based on the section in red looking like it contains a cylinder and is directed all the way down to the raised piece of floor, red bull have gone through the trouble of keeping that in place and dead straight while having to cut a gap underneath it to let from around around the side pods through to feed the back end.

Why have a big chuck of bodywork sat in the exact space you want as much free space as possible, that piece has to be piping something down to the floor, either some air from the sidepods or the actually exhaust pipes.

Let's not forget that Red Bull aren't scared of a bit of cheating.
 
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Salacious Crumb

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dalin80 said:
Because iam a all powerful Deity.


That and I don't, its speculation based on the section in red looking like it contains a cylinder and is directed all the way down to the raised piece of floor, red bull have gone through the trouble of keeping that in place and dead straight while having to cut a gap underneath it to let from around around the side pods through to feed the back end.

Why have a big chuck of bodywork sat in the exact space you want as much free space as possible, that piece has to be piping something down to the floor, either some air from the sidepods or the actually exhaust pipes.

Let's not forget that Red Bull aren't scared of a bit of cheating.
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It probably has more to do with this:

DrM said:
Coanda effect written all over it :p Exhaust flow goes directly under RW and into diffuser area
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Than it being a hidden exhaust.
 
Myoclonic Jerk

Myoclonic Jerk

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Lotus are having problems with the steering..

Lotus tweet: "All calm in the @Lotus_F1Team garage. Kimi was not quite happy with the steering so we're investigating accordingly #F1 #Raikkonen"
 
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