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[RomanticHeroX]

Thats really not the problem at all.

If a circuit doesn't lend itself to overtaking there's really very little you can do to the cars to change that. There's a reason Hungary never sees much action despite having seen such radically different car designs over the years.

 

[Seanspeed]

If a circuit doesn't lend itself to overtaking there's really very little you can do to the cars to change that. There's a reason Hungary never sees much action despite having seen such radically different car designs over the years.

There's a few tracks that dont 'lend themselves' to overtaking, but most are fine.

 

[ANDY_098]

The best track for overtaking would be AVUS.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

The best track for overtaking would be AVUS.

That place was a death trap, but it must have been quite thrilling.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

There's a few tracks that dont 'lend themselves' to overtaking, but most are fine.

More and more the okay tracks are dropped in favor of bad ones. That's what my complaint is about.

 

[Seanspeed]

More and more the okay tracks are dropped in favor of bad ones. That's what my complaint is about.

Its mostly the older tracks that have overtaking issues. Barcelona, Hungary, Monaco, Silverstone.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Why is he trying to justify his win? even if claims of Redbull giving him the win were true, I'm sure he gave something to the team that made him earn that favoritism in the last race as a thank you.. it was cheap to point out Hikke's win like this.. so many other wins were won the same way or even worst..

There are so many undeserved losses, but an undeserved win never exists, not even Germany 2010.. every win is deserved. end of story.

Now he needs to go back to Mark of 2010 and focus on driving more than writing columns

Disagree. Mark's ability to be honest and reflect is one of his defining traits. I would argue that a column like that only enhances his psychology and ability to race.

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

I don't hate Vettel, and I'm English. So yeah, you may need glasses because you clearly have not seen the magical marvel that is Webber.

I actually like Webber and was rooting for him to win it last year.. anyone but Alonso thingy .. however, he was at his best when he was in Williams, taking the car where it doesn't belong especially in qualifying.. what happened to that guy, I dunno..

but to call him a "magical marvel" is a bit of a stretch.. he's not Kimi

*runs*

Disagree. Mark's ability to be honest and reflect is one of his defining traits. I would argue that a column like that only enhances his psychology and ability to race.

well, I hope so.. the more he competes with Vettel the better for the sport

 

[Sleeplessnights]

I was a bit surprised by what they were wearing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt3cBMNKHYw

 

[Edmond Dantès]

I was a bit surprised by what they were wearing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt3cBMNKHYw

Very suave.

 

[Betta Lines]

That accent was all over the place!

 

[Xun]

That accent was all over the place!

Yeah it is pretty scary.

 

[Xun]

Thought this would be worth posting:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/ferrari-599xx-evolution-package-2011-12-01

It's a new Ferrari with DRS.

 

[Sleeplessnights]

Thought this would be worth posting:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/ferrari-599xx-evolution-package-2011-12-01

It's a new Ferrari with DRS.

This could cause a lot of unnecessary accidents.

 

[S. L.]

Thought this would be worth posting:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/ferrari-599xx-evolution-package-2011-12-01

It's a new Ferrari with DRS.

seems like an idiotic version of the active rearwing many sportscars have

 

[Sleeplessnights]

Official 2012 driver's list:

Red Bull Racing Renault
1 Sebastian Vettel (DEU)
2 Mark Webber (AUS)

McLaren Mercedes
3 Jenson Button (GBR)
4 Lewis Hamilton (GBR)

Ferrari
5 Fernando Alonso (ESP)
6 Felipe Massa (BRA)

Mercedes
7 Michael Schumacher (DEU)
8 Nico Rosberg (DEU)

Lotus Renault
9 Kimi Raikkonen (FIN)
10 TBA

Force India Mercedes
11 TBA
12 TBA

Sauber Ferrari
14 Kamui Kobayashi (JPN)
15 Sergio Perez Mendoza (MEX)

STR Ferrari
16 TBA
17 TBA

Williams Renault
18 TBA
19 TBA

Caterham Renault
20 Heikki Kovalainen (FIN)
21 Jarno Trulli (ITA)

HRT/TBA
22 TBA
23 TBA

Marussia Cosworth
24 Timo Glock (DEU)
25 Charles Pic (FRA)

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/11/12862.html

 

[Orgun]

Official 2012 driver's list:



http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/11/12862.html

Ugh Trulli still

 

[Sleeplessnights]

I'm surprised Paster is not confirmed. The change in midfield drivers would make for interesting races.

2010 had a better fight for the championship but 2011 race quality is much better. So hopefully 2012 will be a combination of both. Otherwise we would have to wait until 2014.

 

[Ark]

I'm surprised Paster is not confirmed. The change in midfield drivers would make for interesting races.

Pastor is confirmed.

 

[brotkasten]

Pastor is confirmed.

Such a disappointment. They really need the money, huh?

 

[Ark]

Apparently so, which more importantly, leaves the final Williams' seat a toss-up between Sutil and Barrichello.

Presuming of course that Force India decide to take The Hulk & Di Resta, The Hulk seemed more than confident about having a race seat for next year when the BBC interviewed him at Brazil. Could have just been for show, but who knows.

 

[Sleeplessnights]

Apparently so, which more importantly, leaves the final Williams' seat a toss-up between Sutil and Barrichello.

Is Petrov confirmed for 2012? I'd love to see Sutil at Lotus along with Kimi!

 

[S. L.]

that was supposed to be an edit???

 

[S. L.]

Force India would be crazy to pick Hulk or Di Resta over Sutil and Williams would be crazy to pick Barrichello over Sutil.
Sutil more or less singlehandedly put FI in the position they were at the end of the season, without him they'd be fighting with Sauber and Toro Rosso for constructors position.

 

[Chris R]

Anyone wanna wager some internet bucks? I can't be the only one who thinks that Caterham will out perform Williams (if they have Pastor/Sandwich again).

 

[S. L.]

Anyone wanna wager some internet bucks? I can't be the only one who thinks that Caterham will out perform Williams (if they have Pastor/Sandwich again).

it isn't exactly pastors fault that Williams was so crap, if anything his money helped them to be less crap than the crap they are

 

[Chris R]

it isn't exactly pastors fault that Williams was so crap, if anything his money helped them to be less crap than the crap they are

I didn't say it was his fault. Both drivers just didn't drive well and the car was a stinker too. Just look at the slide from 09 to 11.

 

[Adamm]

I would like to see Maldonado in half decent car to see what he can do - Although he is unlikely to get that from Williams

 

[operon]

This could cause a lot of unnecessary accidents.

You can't take it out on the road

 

[Myoclonic Jerk]

Is Petrov confirmed for 2012? I'd love to see Sutil at Lotus along with Kimi!

Renault gave him a week or so to decide if he's going to remain with the team or not.

Sounds strange right? I don't know what do they mean by that..

 

[Sleeplessnights]

You can't take it out on the road

I meant the idea of having DRS on road cars.

 

[brotkasten]

I meant the idea of having DRS on road cars.

It's a track car, not a road car.

 

[Dead Man]

Surely the wing contributes so little drag relative to the rest of the car it is pointless?

 

[operon]

Surely the wing contributes so little drag relative to the rest of the car it is pointless?

That top gear article said it dropped the Fiorano lap time by a second

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

Ferrari and Red Bull Racing have decided to withdraw from the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) on the back of the ongoing row over the Resource Restriction Agreement, AUTOSPORT can reveal.

Amid ongoing debate about the future of FOTA, with teams failing to agree a way forward for the RRA after a crunch meeting at the Brazilian Grand Prix, high level sources have revealed that both Ferrari and Red Bull Racing have lodged notification that they intend to leave the organisation.

It is understood that both teams wrote to FOTA earlier this week to inform them of their decision.

Neither Red Bull Racing nor Ferrari would comment on the situation when contacted by AUTOSPORT on Friday to discuss it.

A spokesman for FOTA confirmed only that the body had received notice from two teams that they no longer intended to be a part of it, but would not elaborate on which teams they were.

"FOTA confirms it has received the resignation of two teams," said a spokesman. "Whilst considering its next steps, FOTA will continue to work on behalf of its members to achieve the aims of the organisation."

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[Leonsito]

Wow, that's huge.

 

[Sleeplessnights]

It's a track car, not a road car.

I didn't mean this specific Ferrari. The idea of having DRS on future road cars is bad.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

.

FOTA have always been teetering on the edge of collapse. It really is an uneasy alliance between teams and so disingenuous.

McLaren may well be next.

 

[DieH@rd]

So... is she confirmed?

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

It'd be nice to have another female in the sport other than Nico Rosberg.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

So... is she confirmed?

I'd love to see a competitive and genuinely talented woman in F1 someday, but Maria is not that woman sadly.

As a third driver... maybe.

 

[S. L.]

As a third driver... maybe.

what's the point, aside from marketing purposes

 

[Xun]

.

Wow.

FOTA have always been teetering on the edge of collapse. It really is an uneasy alliance between teams and so disingenuous.

McLaren may well be next.

Despite Martin Whitmarsh being the chairman?

 

[S. L.]

Wow.

Despite Martin Whitmarsh being the chairman?

sure, what's the point if all the big teams aren't in it

 

[Edmond Dantès]

what's the point, aside from marketing purposes

I don't think there is one besides marketing or maybe Renault have seen something in her.

It's a bit dubious that her test times were never revealed though. Either she was on the pace or woefully slow.

 

[Adamm]

.

Hmm is this bad news or good news =/

 

[Xun]

sure, what's the point if all the big teams aren't in it

True.

 

[Leonsito]

So... is she confirmed?

I hope not, she's a joke.

 

[Adamm]

Ferrari have posted on thier website about leaving FOTA

http://www.ferrari.com/English/Formula1/News/Headlines/Pages/111202_F1_Ferrari-leaves-FOTA.aspx

EDIT: Sounds like they want more testing

 

[schroddycat]

So... is she confirmed?

Would

...

Love to see her driving a F1 car.