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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel |OT2|

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Vettel seems to like India.

"The altitude differencea are extreme, like they are at Spa or in Turkey, which gives the driving an additional element.

“Incidentally, we’re expecting the track to have the second highest average speed of the season after Monza; that means that we’ll be completing a lap at an average speed of 235 kilometres and hour (146mph), so there should be plenty of good opportunities to overtake.”
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/270238/vettel-india-second-fastest-track-after-monza/
 

Seanspeed

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I dont think drivers think about what they say sometimes.

Since when did Turkey have 'extreme' elevation changes?

And a high average speed doesn't mean good overtaking opportunities.
 

Merino

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Seanspeed said:
I dont think drivers think about what they say sometimes.

Since when did Turkey have 'extreme' elevation changes?

And a high average speed doesn't mean good overtaking opportunities.
I read that last statement as;

high average speed = quick lap times = more laps in the grand prix = more opportunities to overtake in DRS zone
 

ANDY_098

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With Karthikeyan replacing Liuzzi for India it will (according to GXPhil) be the first GP since Germany 1973 where there have been no Italian drivers entered.

Pretty decent run they had going.
 
Glad to see Vettel likes India.

I really do hope it's a success because I can't stop doing laps of it in 2011. Simply fantastic track.

I think I'll actually watch practice for a glimpse of how the cars go around it.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
Merino said:
I read that last statement as;

high average speed = quick lap times = more laps in the grand prix = more opportunities to overtake in DRS zone
If thats what he meant, then its the exact opposite. Race length is dictated by distance, not number of laps. High average speed means less laps and a shorter race. For example, Monza is usually always the shortest race on the calendar(time-wise), while Monaco and now Singapore are the longest.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
ANDY_098 said:
With Karthikeyan replacing Liuzzi for India it will (according to GXPhil) be the first GP since Germany 1973 where there have been no Italian drivers entered.

Pretty decent run they had going.
Another far lesser record, in fact quite a humiliating record needs to be ended very soon. It's been 58 years since an Italian F1 driver won the WDC. The likes of Fisichella and Luizzi have flatered to deceive recently and all eyes on Mirko Bortolotti to see if he can rectify this issue.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
Another far lesser record, in fact quite a humiliating record needs to be ended very soon. It's been 58 years since an Italian F1 driver won the WDC. The likes of Fisichella and Luizzi have flatered to deceive recently and all eyes on Mirko Bortolotti to see if he can rectify this issue.
It's so embarrassing. Ferrari is such and old an traditional Italian F1 team, but they can not raise some competitive drivers from their own country?
 

THE:MILKMAN

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Right. Hadn't heard of Trulli possibly being replaced.

Though with his power steering issue rearing it's ugly head again, it probably makes sense to let Chandok take the seat for India.
 

Adamm

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Shows what a sad excuse for an F1 team that HRT are, that they happily just replace a driver for a race weekend for publicity/money.
A friday practice session is one thing, but for the whole weekend is a joke.

Can you imagine Red Bull replacing Webber for a race weekend? It would never happen.

EDIT: Cant believe lotus are doing it also....sigh
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Adamm said:
Shows what a sad excuse for an F1 team that HRT are, that they happily just replace a driver for a race weekend for publicity/money.
A friday practice session is one thing, but for the whole weekend is a joke.

Can you imagine Red Bull replacing Webber for a race weekend? It would never happen.

EDIT: Cant believe lotus are doing it also....sigh

If that's what brings in sponsors to keep the team going for the other 19 races, why not. I am surprised we don't have any teams that work on a rotating basis. A new driver almost every race and one fixed driver. Must be against the rules?

Ideal, no. But better than the teams fading from the sport, I think.
 

Seanspeed

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Edmond Dantès said:
Another far lesser record, in fact quite a humiliating record needs to be ended very soon. It's been 58 years since an Italian F1 driver won the WDC. The likes of Fisichella and Luizzi have flatered to deceive recently and all eyes on Mirko Bortolotti to see if he can rectify this issue.
Bortolotti hasn't been very convincing. He's finally won the F2 championship, but the competition in the series this year was pretty terrible. This will land him a test with Williams, but I'm not sure its gonna amount to much as Williams need $$$ and Bortolotti isn't gonna be able to match what Maldonado brings, nor is he nearly as qualified as Maldonado.

I suspect he'll go back to GP3 or maybe to WSBR if he can afford it. But I'm not convinced he's gonna make a big impression in fields as competitive as these.
 
AndyD said:
If that's what brings in sponsors to keep the team going for the other 19 races, why not. I am surprised we don't have any teams that work on a rotating basis. A new driver almost every race and one fixed driver. Must be against the rules?

Ideal, no. But better than the teams fading from the sport, I think.
Red Bull did that for a while when they were first starting, switching between Klein and Liuzzi. Turns out it's not so great for anybody involved. The team gets no consistency between races, and for a newer team that's a huge problem, and the drivers don't develop because they just can't get sufficient seat time.
 

Goldrusher

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AndyD said:
I am surprised we don't have any teams that work on a rotating basis. A new driver almost every race and one fixed driver. Must be against the rules?
Correct.

19) CHANGES OF DRIVER
19.1 a) During a season each team will be permitted to use four drivers. Changes may be made at any time before the start of the qualifying practice session provided any change proposed after 16.00 on the day of scrutineering receives the consent of the stewards.
Additional changes for reasons of force majeure will be considered separately.
Any new driver may score points in the Championship.
b) In addition to the above each team will be permitted to run additional drivers during P1 and P2 provided :
- the stewards are informed which cars and drivers each team intends to use in each session before the end of initial scrutineering, changes after this time may only be made with the consent of the stewards ;
- no more than two drivers are used in any one session ;
- they carry the race number of the nominated driver they replace ;
- they use the engine and tyres which are allocated to the nominated driver ;
- they are in possession of a Super Licence.
c) If one of the team's nominated drivers is unable to drive at some stage after the end of initial scrutineering, and the stewards consent to a change of driver, the replacement driver must use the engine, gearbox and tyres which were allocated to the original driver (see Articles 25.3 and 28.4).
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
For the Senna fans among us and everyone else. :)

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The rest.

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DrM

Redmond's Baby
brotkasten said:
It's so embarrassing. Ferrari is such and old an traditional Italian F1 team, but they can not raise some competitive drivers from their own country?
Luca 'The Speed of Light' Badoer
 
Edmond Dantès said:
The Kimi to Williams rumours are gaining momentum, he may have signed for Williams for 2012.

Yeah was reading a few rumours last night on Twitter. The latest seem to be that Williams will make an announcement about it in India this week.
 
Barichello leaving F1 will be weird. He never achieved anything (he hoped for), but he's a driver of an old era, who saw many others come and go. I'm not sure if Kimi as his replacement is such a great idea. Kimi will have to prove himself again and that's not possible in a Williams (lol). Who cares if he outpaces Maldonado? He won't be on the podium with a car like that. Maybe Force India will take him in 2013, when Di Resta leaves for McLaren or Ferrari.
 

Goldrusher

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lol

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What happened there ?


edit: Oh, there's another floor on the original concept art, but that's for next year probably...

There's supposed to be 3 "balconies", 2 are sort of finished, the 3rd obviously not (the one in orange) nor does it have a roof yet.


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Ark

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brotkasten said:
Barichello leaving F1 will be weird. He never achieved anything (he hoped for), but he's a driver of an old era, who saw many others come and go. I'm not sure if Kimi as his replacement is such a great idea. Kimi will have to prove himself again and that's not possible in a Williams (lol). Who cares if he outpaces Maldonado? He won't be on the podium with a car like that. Maybe Force India will take him in 2013, when Di Resta leaves for McLaren or Ferrari.

I don't think Button will be retiring by 2013 unless his pace literally drops off a cliff. And if Hamilton leaves McLaren that'll be enough drama to keep us occupied for at least half a decade.

I'm still convinced Kimi wont get back into a top team, but there you go.
 
Ark said:
I don't think Button will be retiring by 2013 unless his pace literally drops off a cliff. And if Hamilton leaves McLaren that'll be enough drama to keep us occupied for at least half a decade.

I'm still convinced Kimi wont get back into a top team, but there you go.
Nah, I was thinking about Webber leaving RBR, Lewis joining them and Di Resta getting the spot. One can dream, right?
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware

Dilly

Banned
navanman said:
One for an interest in the technicalities of a F1 car..
A follow-up piece by Craig Scarborough on his hypothetical "legal" flexing tea tray splitter that one of the top teams is rumoured to be using.

http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/update-see-saw-splitter-fia-issue-a-technical-directive/
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/a-legal-but-flexible-t-tray-splitter-the-see-saw-solution/

The man should be working for a top team rather than writing these blogs!

amazing
 

DieH@rd

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Martin Brundle expected to join Sky TV's new Formula One commentary team

Martin Brundle is on Monday expected to sign as the star of Sky Sports’ new Formula One coverage but it remains unclear whether he will continue to call the races for the BBC as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...-Sky-TVs-new-Formula-One-commentary-team.html


He responded via twitter that the offer has came, but he is still thinking about it.
http://twitter.com/#!/MBrundleF1/status/128538580745330688
 
Sleeplessnights said:
Maybe he already is?
HRT needs to get him. Can't get worse anyway.
DieH@rd said:
Martin Brundle expected to join Sky TV's new Formula One commentary team

Martin Brundle is on Monday expected to sign as the star of Sky Sports’ new Formula One coverage but it remains unclear whether he will continue to call the races for the BBC as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...-Sky-TVs-new-Formula-One-commentary-team.html


He responded via twitter that the offer has came, but he is still thinking about it.
http://twitter.com/#!/MBrundleF1/status/128538580745330688
Again, Brundle is great and all, but I want the team. I want DC, I want Eddie and I want Jake. Brundle alone can't do much if he gets a shitty partner.
 

Adamm

Member
From the Telegraph

The two broadcasters are sharing coverage of the sport from next season as part of a controversial deal which will see the satellite station show all 20 grands prix live, with the BBC showing 10 live and the other 10 in an as yet undetermined delayed format.

With Brundle — by some distance the UK’s highest-profile F1 pundit — on the verge of moving to Sky for a sum believed to be in excess of £1 million per year BBC chiefs have a conundrum.

They can either go with the cheap option and use Sky’s commentary, which must be offered to them as part of the deal the two broadcasters cut and took to Formula One chief executive Bernie Ecclestone this summer, or they can continue to produce their own coverage.

If they opt for the first option it is unclear what it would mean for the rest of the BBC’s production team. If they opt for the latter, believed to be more likely, it is understood that Speed TV’s Australian commentator Leigh Diffey is the favourite to sit alongside present pundit David Coulthard.

Brundle, for his part, will be paired with David Croft in the Sky commentary booth — the BBC Radio 5Live commentator’s colourful style is highly-rated by his new paymasters — which will mean a return to the co-commentating duties he only recently vacated at the BBC.

His departure, which he has been mulling over for months, is a blow to the BBC, who had hoped the lure of speaking to millions on terrestrial TV would see him commit to a new deal.

Last Friday Brundle told his Twitter followers that he had had offers from both the BBC and Sky and would be taking the weekend to “consider my future”.

The 52 year-old former driver is believed to have been persuaded not only by the double-your-money offer from Sky but by the promise that he will be the star of its F1 coverage, heavily involved with much of the extra programming it is planning in an effort to convince fans to sign up to its subscription service.

Sky, which has been chasing Formula One for years, is desperate to make a big statement from the outset. Although its productions budgets, like the BBC’s, have been trimmed, it still has a sizeable sum to spend on talent and programming.

The Daily Telegraph understands that Simon Lazenby, long-standing presenter of The Rugby Club, will likely present Sky’s coverage, while veteran sports presenter Steve Rider has been offered the chance to return in some capacity, possibly to front a feature looking at past drivers.

Sky is also understood to be keen on the BBC’s pit-lane reporter Ted Kravitz who was seen in discussions with Sky executive producer Martin Turner in Singapore.

I really hope the BBC choose to share the commentary, but i suppose its good news that Sky recognise how good brundle is & want to give him more air time :D
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
DieH@rd said:
Martin Brundle expected to join Sky TV's new Formula One commentary team

Martin Brundle is on Monday expected to sign as the star of Sky Sports’ new Formula One coverage but it remains unclear whether he will continue to call the races for the BBC as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...-Sky-TVs-new-Formula-One-commentary-team.html


He responded via twitter that the offer has came, but he is still thinking about it.
http://twitter.com/#!/MBrundleF1/status/128538580745330688
An essential position filled, it looks Sky know what they're doing. They also need a good analysis team and production team as the BBC features and intros/outros are second to none.
 

Ark

Member
Brundle and Crofty in the commentary box? What the shit.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to Crofty during practice, but he's almost as bad as Legard imo.
 
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