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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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operon

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Timbuktu said:
Jenson speaks his mind, but he always seems to be in control and he's much better with the press.

Lewis did say sorry to the fans though.
No he said sorry on behalf of the stewards i thought not himself
 

Ark

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anonnumber6 said:
Can RBR afford Hamilton?

Hamilton, Newey and Vettel would be very costly.

If they could run two teams, they can afford Hamilton.

My heart would sink to see Hamilton out of a McLaren car, but I'd pay good money to see Vettel & Hamilton in equal equipment or separate cars with equal speed.
 

Nolan.

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anonnumber6 said:
Can RBR afford Hamilton?

Hamilton, Newey and Vettel would be very costly.

And pretty much unbeatable tbh so for that reason I hope it won't happen but Mclaren needs to stop messing up their driver's progress so consistently
 

Wes

venison crêpe
So he was just quoting Ali G? Whilst I didn't see it live it sounds like he was being sarcastic to use a comedian's quote.
 

Mohonky

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operon said:
was becoming a fan of lewis. But today and that interview wtf and the race card did he really say that he should being saying sorry to the fans for the shit driving today

I think people are being a bit rich on Hamilton though. The Massa thing was quite meh. He could have he couldn't have, he tried. It's one of the reasons I like him, he'll go for it if he see's even a hint that there is a chance. Snap decision and it didn't work. Massa then proceeded to leave the track of his own accord 2 corners later.

The Maldonardo thing was pretty ordinary, but it's not the first time we've seen that sort of thing in F1. It happens at least once every weekend, this time it was Hamilton. Shit happens.

Monaco is always a bumpy affair, Schuey collected a piece of Hamilton on the very first part of the race, Massa took chunks out of his wing a quarter of the way though the race, there was a shit tonne of bumper car shenanigans going.

Everyone talks about how Vettel got screwed by his pit crew not being ready but no one mentions the exact same thing happen to Webber and Hamilton also.



Hamiltons shitty weekend began yesterday, first when Massa disrupted the flow of Hamiltons hot lap and then Hamilton having to go out at the very end of the qualifying period in some less than ideal circumstances; then he copped a penalty for that one too.

He had some shitty luck and he put himself in some shitty positions but it's Monaco, there's always some carnage and it happen to most drivers at some point.
 

Igo

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Daniel Dantas said:
Hamilton destroyed Massa's front wing. The tunnel is where you need more downforce on the track, and he went to the marbles because the downforce wasn't there when he needed.
The damage was caused by Massa hitting Webber's right rear. It only looked like some endplate damage anyway.

Massa is an F1 driver. If he kept his foot in as he was understeering onto the marbles then he's an idiot.
 
Wes said:
So he was just quoting Ali G? Whilst I didn't see it live it sounds like he was being sarcastic to use a comedian's quote.
He wasn't being serious about it but his tone didn't really make it clear he was joking.
 

operon

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i have no problem with having a go but to call out massa as basically a cheat well as brundle just said it's always some one else's fault with lewis
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Igo said:
Was it Maldonado that put Sutil in the wall? I hadn't seen that angle before.
Kobayashi, because of this he is under investigation

Small OT, but when Indy 500 starts? In 45 minutes or later?
 

Igo

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DrM said:
Kobayashi, because of this he is under investigation
That was a different incident. The one i'm talking about is right before the massive pileup into the swimming pool chicane.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Igo said:
That was a different incident. The one i'm talking about is right before the massive pileup into the swimming pool chicane.
Dunno, i saw one Sauber messing around with Force India right before that pileup... but Maldonado was also close,.
 
Mohonky said:
I think people are being a bit rich on Hamilton though. The Massa thing was quite meh. He could have he couldn't have, he tried. It's one of the reasons I like him, he'll go for it if he see's even a hint that there is a chance. Snap decision and it didn't work.
Look, I'm all for drivers with adamantium balls, but Hamilton doesn't think realistic enough.

This is how you do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfEDK3pCfGg
This is how you dont: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdTkmLHRTkw
 

Timbuktu

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Ark said:
Jenson is just so smooth with the press, I swear he's always on Brundle's gridwalk.

indeed, smoother than most dedicated PR, Lewis can learn a thing or two from him. I guess years at Honda gives you that.
 

Nolan.

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Could land him in trouble with the FIA too I can understand his frustration, but he needs to just go away and come back fresh

Anyway interesting race but so much frustration all round
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Nolan. said:
Could land him in trouble with the FIA too I can understand his frustration, but he needs to just go away and come back fresh
Eh, nothing will happen, Bernie will visit him, have a chat and this will be history.
 

paskowitz

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Its amazing how much better the BBC's coverage of F1 than Speed. Its almost pathetic. Seriously, they should just port the BBC version over to the US. It has so much more personality.
 

Nolan.

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DrM said:
Eh, nothing will happen, Bernie will visit him, have a chat and this will be history.

Probably, but Lewis really needs to work on his emotions, he's still too emotional after a loss. It's clear that he really wanted to take it to Vettel after coming off of Barcelona and storming quali and it must hurt but he needs to learn to move on. I thought Button being at Mclaren was helping him with that, and he did seem to change a bit in that regard but obviously not as much as I expected.
 

John_B

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brotkasten said:
Look, I'm all for drivers with adamantium balls, but Hamilton doesn't think realistic enough.

This is how you dont: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdTkmLHRTkw
The Toro Rosso, Webber and Massa are all taking the exact same line. Massa sees Hamilton and tries to cut him off - look how he suddenly cuts the corner compared to the Toro Rosso and Webber. Nobody yields and shit happens.

Hamilton was hot headed today and was probably trying a bit too hard considering the track. It's still racing and the whole point is to overtake your opponents. People act like Hamilton is doing something else than racing.

Remember Massa driving straight into the side of Hamilton in Fuji 2008? That was not even an attempt of overtaking. Calm down the bitching.
 
The only way Hamilton was going to make that move stick was if Massa completely left the door open. Hamilton dove to the inside but his nose was barely to Massa's rear wheels when Massa turned in. Unless he was expecting Massa to let him through that was never going to work.
 
hehe, hammy delivered in his post race interview. shows you what an absolute cunt he really is:

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This is fucking bullshit. Lewis is being a complete asshole as well. He needed to chill the fuck out on track today, he would have taken Massa at another opportunity. That move completely fucked Jenson. Angry.
 

S. L.

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RomanticHeroX said:
The only way Hamilton was going to make that move stick was if Massa completely left the door open. Hamilton dove to the inside but his nose was barely to Massa's rear wheels when Massa turned in. Unless he was expecting Massa to let him through that was never going to work.
i think this was also discussed one or two races ago, Hamilton likes to put himself in a "if you don't yield we will crash" position, this works on some drivers, but as seen today on others it doesn't
 
John_B said:
The Toro Rosso, Webber and Massa are all taking the exact same line. Massa sees Hamilton and tries to cut him off - look how he suddenly cuts the corner compared to the Toro Rosso and Webber. Nobody yields and shit happens.

Hamilton was hot headed today and was probably trying a bit too hard considering the track. It's still racing and the whole point is to overtake your opponents. People act like Hamilton is doing something else than racing.

Remember Massa driving straight into the side of Hamilton in Fuji 2008? That was not even an attempt of overtaking. Calm down the bitching.
So this was the revenge for Fuji 2008? :lol Hamilton isn't even next to Massa at the beginning of the corner. How can anyone think that it would've been possible to overtake in that situation? What do you think Massa should've done? Take the corner even wider than Webber, so Hamilton can pass?

S. L. said:
i think this was also discussed one or two races ago, Hamilton likes to put himself in a "if you don't yield we will crash" position, this works on some drivers, but as seen today on others it doesn't
Hamilton shouldn't have watched the Top Gear segment about Senna. :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNmqn3heGgE#t=6m

But maybe he thinks he is Senna.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yCsdnUW2Ww
 
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