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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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kitch9

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Lol Hamiltons been futa as much as the next man by other drivers, some here need to chill and let the stewards do there job as they enforce the rules.

End of the day Monaco is a tight track and 20 odd cars are trying to drive round it at 160mph+.

Shit happens on this track, the drivers can either try to race or they can just play follow the leader.

I know which I'd prefer, and killing the spectacle by giving everybody a free set of tyres ain't it.
 

John_B

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brotkasten said:
So this was the revenge for Fuji 2008? :lol Hamilton isn't even next to Massa at the beginning of the corner. How can anyone think that it would've been possible to overtake in that situation? What do you think Massa should've done? Take the corner even wider than Webber, so Hamilton can pass?
The move was probably a bit optimistic, but Hamilton took the inside line and made Massa choose to give him some room or crash. Massa turned directly into his line to block. Racing incident.

I understand why Hamilton is tired of all those penalties for petty shit. They robbed him blind at Spa a few seasons ago. The weaving in Malaysia this year was also bullshit. Can't we just have some racing? It's like people expect racing drivers to be nice guys on the track.
 
John_B said:
The move was probably a bit optimistic, but Hamilton took the inside line and made Massa choose to give him some room or crash. Massa turned directly into his line to block. Racing incident.

I understand why Hamilton is tired of all those penalties for petty shit. They robbed him blind at Spa a few seasons ago. The weaving in Malaysia this year was also bullshit. Can't we just have some racing? It's like people expect racing drivers to be nice guys on the track.
That was a fair penalty, it was clear just from watching it on TV he gained an advantage by cutting the bus stop chicane.
 

Nolan.

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Apparently Kobayashi gets a reprimand for the collision with Sutil and Hamilton gets a drive through penatly for the Maldonado collision
 

Dibbz

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Missed the Forum on BBC but hopefully they'll put it up on iPlayer soon. Not sure what Hamilton can complain baout since he ruined a lot of guys races today including Buttons.
 

John_B

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anonnumber6 said:
That was a fair penalty, it was clear just from watching it on TV he gained an advantage by cutting the bus stop chicane.
Piss off, he let Raikkonen overtake him. The penalty was for him not letting Raikkonen overtake him enough.

Hamilton won that race. Bullshit they took it away from him. They fucking went and "clarified" the rules after that shit - Wait one corner with an overtake after giving position back... everyone knew that.. it just wasn't written anywhere... uh..

I don't want to argue about Hamilton anymore. He has the biggest balls of the field. He does racing and some people does not like that. I bet some people didn't like Senna's "style" before as well.
 
John_B said:
Piss off, he let Raikkonen overtake him. The penalty was for him not letting Raikkonen overtake him enough.

Hamilton won that race. Bullshit they took it away from him. They fucking went and "clarified" the rules after that shit - Wait one corner with an overtake after giving position back... everyone knew that.. it just wasn't written anywhere... uh..

I don't want to argue about Hamilton anymore. He has the biggest balls of the field. He does racing and some people does not like that. I bet some people didn't like Senna's "style" before as well.
When did Hamilton give the place back? I can only remember him overtaking Kimi then going wide when the rain came letting Kimi take back the lead. Hamilton should have known that cutting a corner then overtaking on the next would raise questions, everyone could see he gained an advantage and the stewards had the telemetry to back that up.

I'm tired of Hamilton and his fans thinking that the stewards are targeting him. Biggest victim-complex in F1.
 

Juicy Bob

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The thing that gets me is that we've had great races in Sepang, Shanghai, Catalunya and now Monaco. Just imagine how things will be in Montreal, Silverstone, Monza, Spa and Suzuka...
 

RankoSD

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anonnumber6 said:
That was a fair penalty, it was clear just from watching it on TV he gained an advantage by cutting the bus stop chicane.
Fair penalty? 25 second is a fair penalty for that? Are you kidding me?
He avoided the collision and then let Kimi overtake him... Hamilton gained nothing.
 

John_B

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anonnumber6 said:
When did Hamilton give the place back? I can only remember him overtaking Kimi then going wide when the rain came letting Kimi take back the lead. Hamilton should have known that cutting a corner then overtaking on the next would raise questions, everyone could see he gained an advantage and the stewards had the telemetry to back that up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FzNZSaKOsQ

Hamilton cuts the chicane, eases on the gas so that Raikkonen could pass. Raikkonen breaks early to take the wide line into the next corner, so Hamilton overtakes.

What if Raikkonen made a mistake, gear or breaking, should Hamilton then have had to break and wait for Raikkonen? It was a robbery plain and simple.

We need regulations for safety, but this overregulating every little detail that happens on track is bad for the sport.
 
John_B said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FzNZSaKOsQ

Hamilton cuts the chicane, eases on the gas so that Raikkonen could pass. Raikkonen breaks early to take the wide line into the next corner, so Hamilton overtakes.

What if Raikkonen made a mistake, gear or breaking, should Hamilton then have had to break and wait for Raikkonen? It was a robbery plain and simple.

We need regulations for safety, but this overregulating every little detail that happens on track is bad for the sport.
Am I watching a different video to you? He gave the place back for a total of a few seconds and then overtook him on the next corner after the corner he cut, there is fair racing and then there is cheating.
 

RankoSD

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anonnumber6 said:
Am I watching a different video to you? He gave the place back for a total of a few seconds and then overtook him on the next corner after the corner he cut, there is fair racing and then there is cheating.
Drop it dude...
 
RankoSD said:
Drop it dude...
I wasn't the first to mention Spa 2008, Hamilton and his fans have a victim-complex. When you go for stupid overtakes which put other drivers in danger he deserves very penalty he gets.
 

S. L.

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captureormc.png

STR cost me dearly, why so crappy ALG?? ;_;
 

Somtaaw

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anonnumber6 said:
Am I watching a different video to you? He gave the place back for a total of a few seconds and then overtook him on the next corner after the corner he cut, there is fair racing and then there is cheating.

Also Alonso did the same move in Suzuka 05 and had to give back the position to klein some laps later.
 

Orgun

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S. L. said:
http://www.abload.de/img/captureormc.png[IMG]
STR cost me dearly, why so crappy ALG?? ;_;[/QUOTE]

Welp, I gained 3 places but having Perez as one of my drivers didnt help much :/
 

Ark

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Orgun said:
Welp, I gained 3 places but having Perez as one of my drivers didnt help much :/

I gained one place. God dammit Mercedes letting me down.

I will make it onto the first page one day!
 

RankoSD

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anonnumber6 said:
I wasn't the first to mention Spa 2008, Hamilton and his fans have a victim-complex.
But you're still saying that that was a fair 25 second penalty with a straight face?
And yes, Hamilton WAS a victim back then, accept it or leave it...

Uploaded onboard video just for you, and you know what, they were EQUAL before the corner and Hamilton was BEHIND Kimi on the straight which means NO GAIN...
Just because Kimi did brake earlier doesn't mean that Hamilton needs to stay behind one more corner...
Fun starts at 3:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Ak3yog_OQ

Now this IS a gain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJXQXYapdxA
 
I feel so sorry for Hamilton's PR manager... I mean, if you're going to quote Ali G, at least get it right.

That aside, did my eyes deceive me or was Webber not at the party on the Red Bull Floaterhome?
 

Orgun

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Just watching the Forum episode on iplayer and is it just me or does Lee Mckenzie always sound depressed when asking the questions? :)

I'd love to see what Di Resta and Koby could do in better cars.
 

Ark

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Psychotext said:
I feel so sorry for Hamilton's PR manager... I mean, if you're going to quote Ali G, at least get it right.

That aside, did my eyes deceive me or was Webber not at the party on the Red Bull Floaterhome?

He was probably off relaxing I guess. Since he didn't finish on the podium he wasn't obligated to stick around.
 

Leunam

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Vitaly Petrov says he was in a lot of pain

Vitaly Petrov said he could not feel his legs well after his crash in the Monaco Grand Prix, which is why he decided to stay in the car.

He was taken to hospital for checks and it was found he had no injuries, but the Renault driver said he was in quite a lot of pain inside the cockpit.

"First of all, I would like to thank all my fans for all their well wishes, the medical teams at the circuit, the hospital for their efficient and friendly assistance, and the team for their concern," said Petrov.

"It was quite a big impact and I could not feel my legs very well after the crash. I thought it was best for the medical team to assist with removing me from the car as it was difficult for me to move and my legs were trapped in the cockpit.

"I did not lose consciousness but I was in quite a lot of pain when I was inside the car."

Must have been an incredibly scary feeling.
 

Igo

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Dibbz said:
Missed the Forum on BBC but hopefully they'll put it up on iPlayer soon. Not sure what Hamilton can complain baout since he ruined a lot of guys races today including Buttons.
The only guy who can really complain about Lewis is Maldonado. Massa ruined his own race. Honestly, after rewatching the Lewis/Massa incident, i'm not sure Massa can escape contact with Webber even if Lewis backs off.

I hope we have a repeat of this craziness in Montreal. Hilariously entertaining race.

Just realized I dropped a place in racemanager. Not too bad really as I didn't change anything for this race in order to save some money.
 
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