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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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isamu

OMFG HOLY MOTHER OF MARY IN HEAVEN I CANT BELIEVE IT WTF WHERE ARE MY SEDATIVES AAAAHHH
I have a silly question but here goes:

Why aren't there no drivers from the US in Formula 1? If there are, who are they?

If not, when was the time, if ever, there has been one?
 

paskowitz

Member
gutterboy44 said:
Wow, what a race. Best Monaco GP in ages. I am so fucking pumped for Montreal. My buddies and I are heading up the Thursday before. It will be my fifth year going. It is always my favorite vacation each year. Awesome race in an awesome city.

About Hamilton. I can't believe he is winging about his treatment. This coming from a driver in one of the most privileged sports in the world who has had arguably the most privileged build up and life leading into the sport with a seat virtually reserved for him since he was a child at the top team with the personal blessing of the team manager. How much more pampered treatment could he possibly want? Moreover, every great driver I have watched has earned his keep in a lower tier team before getting a shot with the likes of McLaren or Ferrari. Hamilton got that drive straight away, this being one of my major reasons I don't regard him very highly yet. Talented, undoubtedly. But he still has a lot to prove in my books.

You know why Senna could be aggressive and get away with it? Because other drivers respected him. He earned that respect season after season, pole after pole. Hamilton has shown he will gladly compare himself to Senna when things are going well but will whine like the child he is when other drivers don't pull over for this "passing phenom" on the track. IMO he should have had three drive through penalties or an even larger penalty.

I hated this shit when Schumacher did it, Montoya, etc. Great passing isn't just sticking your nose in and then crying when it goes wrong. Grow the fuck up you over protected child. Nice use of the race card too. Very classy.

I will be there with my brother and his girlfriend. If you see a guy wearing a shirt that says "Final Gear" with this on the back, thats me.

StigTshirtidea.jpg
 

Mush

6.0
isamu said:
I have a silly question but here goes:

Why aren't there no drivers from the US in Formula 1? If there are, who are they?

If not, when was the time, if ever, there has been one?
The last I can remember was Scott Speed a few years back.

I guess the lack of them is due to (what I presume) the coverage that F1 gets and the popularity of NASCAR/IRL.
 

Ark

Member
isamu said:
I have a silly question but here goes:

Why aren't there no drivers from the US in Formula 1? If there are, who are they?

If not, when was the time, if ever, there has been one?

Formula 1 is a very European sport. Formula 1 has little to no following in the US and if a US driver really wanted to get anywhere in Formula 1 they'd have to enter a European karting championship. IIRC Webber actually moved to the UK as a child to compete in the UK Karting championships, and Kubica went to Italy.

Mario Andretti is the only US F1 world champion that I can think of, back in the 80's.
 

jambo

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isamu said:
I have a silly question but here goes:

Why aren't there no drivers from the US in Formula 1? If there are, who are they?

If not, when was the time, if ever, there has been one?

You have to turn right in Formula 1
 

Chris R

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There will be an American F1 driver before 2015, just you wait. As it stands now, there are more feeded series (and sponsors :/ ) outside the USA, so it makes little sense to "scout" young American talent.
 
There's no quality competition for karting or open wheel racing in the US, nor is there much interest. Young drivers coming up who have only competed in America just aren't competitive with drivers who have experience in a much higher quality pool of talent. For an American driver to really make it in F1 they'd have to move and compete in Europe at a very young age.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Murray Walker documentary to air this Sunday on BBC2.
The documentary accompanies Walker as he travels to Australia for the opening round of the 2011 season, as well as reliving his wartime memories and riding a selection of classic scramble bikes. With contributions from Michael Schumacher, Lewis Hamilton, Nigel Mansell, Damon Hill and Jenson Button, it also looks back on some of the most sensational moments witnessed in a sporting commentary box.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/261206/murray-walker-documentary-to-air-on-sunday/

<3 Murray.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Virgin and Wirth announce a split. The car has been dire this year and the HRT has nearly been as fast.
The all CFD approach that his company specialises in clearly isnt good enough at the moment for car design.
Pat Symonds, former Renault employee takes over.
 

Leunam

Member
navanman said:
Virgin and Wirth announce a split. The car has been dire this year and the HRT has nearly been as fast.
The all CFD approach that his company specialises in clearly isnt good enough at the moment for car design.
Pat Symonds, former Renault employee takes over.

And if I read it right, they're starting on the 2012 car already.
 

Pterion

Member
Edmond Dantès said:
That's until Jean Eric Vergne finally shows up in F1, then we'll all be talking about him breaking Vettel's records.
Will he drive the by-far fastest car on the grid too?
 

S. L.

Member
navanman said:
Virgin and Wirth announce a split. The car has been dire this year and the HRT has nearly been as fast.
The all CFD approach that his company specialises in clearly isnt good enough at the moment for car design.
Pat Symonds, former Renault employee takes over.
well finally some common sense. Wirth is poopshit. Has nothing to do with CFD or traditional, he/they can't develop a car for shit.
 

Ark

Member
Shaneus said:
High five!

Pretty sure he'll be making a race appearance sometime this year. Sooner the better.

Jaime is looking more and more like the guy Ricciardo will replace.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
F1 silly season rumours, its officially summer so it makes people go crazy!!

Brawn back to Ferrari?
Rosberg to Ferrari or is it a long-term deal at Mercedes?
Virgin want technical tie-up with McLaren/Mercedes ala Force India in return for Paffett getting a seat with them.
 

S. L.

Member
some ...unusual stuff about Petrov
Boullier has some unusual things to say about Petrov. Claiming that the Russian mentality doesn’t go well with “the arrogance of the English” he says that Petrov has moved away from English engineers and trainers this year and is doing much better as a result. He has a Spanish trainer and his engineers are Japanese and French.
Perhaps the most surprising comment is that Boullier has seen the need to put in place a fix-it man for Petrov, having identified that he’s not very good at basic self-care, “He needed someone to guide him, to get him about, to tell him how to behave at the track, what time to wake up, have breakfast, how to manage his day, be on time for meetings and so on,” he said.
plus more about possible management shakeup at Renault
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/06/renault-set-for-management-shake-up/
 

Leunam

Member
So Petrov is the smelly kid?

Does that mean he already has a guy like that in place, or that he needs to hire someone for that position?

Following on from last year’s embarrassing story about the team requesting an advance on its 2011 prize money, there were quite a few rumours circulating again about the financial health of the Renault team over the Monaco weekend.

wat
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
S. L. said:
some ...unusual stuff about Petrov

plus more about possible management shakeup at Renault
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/06/renault-set-for-management-shake-up/

That is a bit strange alright. Comes across as a teenager who hasn't been told how to grow up and could just chillax all day if not prodded to do some work.

The bit about Kubica is great and its showing this year already. He was the leader and gave the team direction. Since his injury, Renault have fallen back without his input.
 
paskowitz said:
I will be there with my brother and his girlfriend. If you see a guy wearing a shirt that says "Final Gear" with this on the back, thats me.

http://pic.phyrefile.com/s/si/sidergt2/2010/05/25/StigTshirtidea.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

What grand stand do you guys sit on? We have always done grand stand 24. Was there for the Kubica horror show.
 
navanman said:
F1 silly season rumours, its officially summer so it makes people go crazy!!

Brawn back to Ferrari?
Rosberg to Ferrari or is it a long-term deal at Mercedes?
Virgin want technical tie-up with McLaren/Mercedes ala Force India in return for Paffett getting a seat with them.

1. Won't happen, partly because of LDM and Brawn's role, salary, responsibility etc. at Mercedes is bigger than the one he had at Ferrari plus he invested a lot of effort and money into that team.
2. Mercedes won't let go of Rosberg, he is German and he will at some point win challenge for a WDC. I do expect at some point Mercedes to try to get Vettel from Red Bull after Schumacher retires.
 

Sew

Member
navanman said:
That is a bit strange alright. Comes across as a teenager who hasn't been told how to grow up and could just chillax all day if not prodded to do some work.
Some people are just like that really. Raw talent, but not a businessmen, time management expert, or diplomat. Could be nurture, could be nature. I sometimes have trouble holding all of life's little threads together the way some people seem to do with ease - if only I had some amazing talent that let me get away with it :lol
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Bild newspaper in Germany is reporting that Rosberg has been offered a €60M to stay with Mercedes till 2016.
It would make him the highest paid F1 driver to have never won a race (so far).
 

Hammer24

Banned
navanman said:
Bild newspaper in Germany is reporting that Rosberg has been offered a €60M to stay with Mercedes till 2016.
It would make him the highest paid F1 driver to have never won a race (so far).

More rumors: Merc offering this much money, ´cause Rosberg got offers from RB and Ferrari too.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Hammer24 said:
More rumors: Merc offering this much money, ´cause Rosberg got offers from RB and Ferrari too.
Playing second fiddle to Vettel and Alonso at those teams wouldn't really help his cause, if he really wants to establish himself as one of the top tier drivers.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
Playing second fiddle to Vettel and Alonso at those teams wouldn't really help his cause, if he really wants to establish himself as one of the top tier drivers.

Yeah but nor will continuing to drive in an uncompetitive car.

Not so much with Ferrari, but if he moved to Red Bull he could increase his value considerably with consistent race wins (as Webber did last year).
 
€60M for Rosberg is insane. Is he really better than, lets say, Heidfeld was in his age?

rogue_pigeon said:
Yeah but nor will continuing to drive in an uncompetitive car.

Not so much with Ferrari, but if he moved to Red Bull he could increase his value considerably with consistent race wins (as Webber did last year).
Didn't really help Webber. Red Bull still used him to make Vettel the WDC.
 
brotkasten said:
€60M for Rosberg is insane. Is he really better than, lets say, Heidfeld was in his age?


Didn't really help Webber. Red Bull still used him to make Vettel the WDC.

If Webber hadn't had fucked up in South Korea, he likely would have been champion.

There might be people at RBR that prefer Vettel, but that's not been an impediment to Webber having great performances in his time in a competitive car. Which is exactly what any driver needs to really show their true worth - a competitive car.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
Playing second fiddle to Vettel and Alonso at those teams wouldn't really help his cause, if he really wants to establish himself as one of the top tier drivers.

Better than playing second fiddle to a hasbeen which is his current situation...
 

S. L.

Member
60 for Rosberg and till fucking 2016 is crazy. He is no Alonso.

Rosberg as Webber replacement doesn't sound that bad thou
 
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