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[Leonsito]

Medium and soft tyres for the Nurburgring

http://www.motorsport.com/#/F1/news...ums-for-german-gp-at-nurburgring/?v=2&s=1&i=3

Good news for Ferrari

 

[Nolan.]

Yeah, though it looks like it is going to be a very wet weekend

 

[Lach]

Edit. I retract that statement - Knetemann

I guess this is the one. Very tricky question.

 

[Dead Man]

Nürburgring 2009 : Webber
Nürburgring 2007 : Alonso
Nürburgring 2006 : Schumacher
Nürburgring 2005 : Alonso

Alonso won his championship in 2005 and not 2007. So the answer is probably the right one, but just not worded correctly.

Edit. I retract that statement - Knetemann

What?

 

[Lach]

What?

Unless the answer 4 is incredibly stupidly worded (the "and" in there changes the meaning totally).

Answer 2: The Nürnburgring IS 5.1 km and in 1978 Gerrie Knetemann (from the Netherlands) won the Road Cycling World Championship which was held on the Nürnburgring that year.

 

[Dead Man]

Unless the answer 4 is incredibly stupidly worded (the "and" in there changes the meaning totally).

Answer 2: The Nürnburgring IS 5.1 km and in 1978 Gerrie Knetemann (from the Netherlands) won the Road Cycling World Championship which was held on the Nürnburgring that year.

Shit, I looked at the wrong layout on Wikipedia. Right you are.

 

[Adamm]

I doubt its answer 4, there is no way they would word it that badly. They always have a question that sound corrects at first reading & this is it. People will read it quickly & remeber Alonso won it in 2005 and was champion that year - it must be correct!

Answer 2 seems to be correct although its a very difficult question compared to all other weeks.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

So this weekend it's Nurburgring not Hockenheim?

Awesome!

 

[RomanticHeroX]

Neither are amongst my favorites, but I actually like both the Nurburgring and Hockenheim. Drop Valencia and go back to calling the Nurburgring the European GP so we can have both.

 

[brotkasten]

I miss the long, long straights at Hockenheim.

Never again.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I actually really like Hockenheim, I think it's a great track, but Nurburgring is better.

 

[anonnumber6]

I miss the long, long straights at Hockenheim.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Hockenheim_Decay.jpg/800px-Hockenheim_Decay.jpg[IMG]

Never again.[/QUOTE]
Agreed the forest section made Hockenheim special, it produced stunning helicopter shots of the race.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Neither are amongst my favorites, but I actually like both the Nurburgring and Hockenheim. Drop Valencia and go back to calling the Nurburgring the European GP so we can have both.

The reason there were two German GP‘s a few years ago was because Bernie wanted to cash in on Schumacher‘s popularity and success during that era, the same scenario has just played out with Alonso. So, I guess it‘s Vettel and Germany‘s turn next, after Valencia‘s contract expires.

 

[Leonsito]

Agreed the forest section made Hockenheim special, it produced stunning helicopter shots of the race.

Yeah, lucky we have Valencia and Korea now !

Btw, I don't like this Nurburgring layout, more like Nurborering.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Agreed the forest section made Hockenheim special, it produced stunning helicopter shots of the race.

Great for TV audiences, but terrible for the spectators at the track, as they hardly saw the cars for a majority of the lap.

 

[Leonsito]

The reason there were two German GP‘s a few years ago was because Bernie wanted to cash in on Schumacher‘s popularity and success during that era, the same scenario has just played out with Alonso. So, I guess it‘s Vettel and Germany‘s turn next, after Valencia‘s contract expires.

Actually, Bernie would ditch Catalunya before Valencia.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Actually, Bernie would ditch Catalunya before Valencia.

BOOOO.

Catalunya is fucking amazing

It is kinda depressing looking at the back half of the calendar. So many shit tracks.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Actually, Bernie would ditch Catalunya before Valencia.

I‘d ditch them both and have the race at Aragon or Jerez.

 

[Shaneus]

The reason there were two German GP‘s a few years ago was because Bernie wanted to cash in on Schumacher‘s popularity and success during that era, the same scenario has just played out with Alonso. So, I guess it‘s Vettel and Germany‘s turn next, after Valencia‘s contract expires.

Imagine if Webber or Ricciardo get up... Melbourne AND Adelaide!

 

[Edmond Dantès]

BOOOO.

Catalunya is fucking amazing

It is kinda depressing looking at the back half of the calendar. So many shit tracks.

But four of the best still to come; Spa, Monza, Suzuka and Interlagos.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Yup, there's still greatness in there.

 

[jey_16]

I miss the long, long straights at Hockenheim.

Never again.

That's a depressing sight

 

[Leonsito]

I‘d ditch them both and have the race at Aragon or Jerez.

Or the real Valencia circuit where F1 should race:

 

[brotkasten]

Imagine if Webber or Ricciardo get up... Melbourne AND Adelaide!

That's as realistic as Barichello and Massa at the top.

 

[Adamm]

Yeah, lucky we have Valencia and Korea now !

I dont get this Korea hate, sure it doesnt look exciting on paper - but we have yet to see a proper race on it yet.
Infact last year it was one of the best races, i know this was caused by the crazy rain but that sort of weather is likely to happen most years.

At least with Valencia we know how bad it is as we sat through it ever year

 

[navanman]

Adam Cooper has an interesting article on the financial health of the Renault team.

The Lotus Renault GP team – then still known as Renault F1 – made a £40m loss in 2010, its first year under the ownership of Genii.

The team’s accounts reveal that income fell dramatically last year by 49% from £162.0m to £82.1m, reflecting the lack of a title sponsor and the absence of a contribution from former owner Renault.

It’s well known that the team is committed to some large loans, and the accounts give some fascinating details.

Firstly, it still owes money to Renault: “The company has a loan with the Renault Group, the term of which has been extended to include repayments as follows: 2011 £6m, 2012, £6m, 2013, £8m.”

Secondly there is the arrangement with Lithuania’s AB Snoras Bank, whose logos have appeared on the car: “The company has a loan facility with AB Snoras Bank (£15m) maturing in December 2011. This loan is secured by first ranking security interest over the rights, title and interest in some of the company’s assets with an aggregate value of £24m.”

Adam Cooper

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Aldo Costa leaves Ferrari.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93198

 

[brotkasten]

Aldo Costa leaves Ferrari.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93198

Ferrari's new soundtrack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U1ncT1QDuo

 

[DrM]

Aldo Costa leaves Ferrari.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93198

Ross Brawn already called.

Also, some rain would be very welcome for this weekend's race

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

The BBC show fuck all sports if you take F1 away besides the one off sporting events events like World Cup and Olympics.

Premiership highlights, very limited MotoGP coverage and what else?

they show lots of sport but most of them are absolute shite:

Tennis
Amateur Boxing
Rugby Union
Rugby League
Swimming
Athletics
Horse Racing
Golf
NFL
Darts
Alpine Skiing
Cycling
Sailing
Badminton
Table Tennis
Squash
Equestrianism
Gymnastics
Rowing
Indoor Bowls

how much money do they waste on all this crap?


when f1 does go to channel 4 i'd be pissed about the return of adverts, not their coverage. in the past when sports have crossed from the bbc to 4 they've always done a better job; cricket and wrc for example.

i welcome our new c4 overlords :bow

 

[brotkasten]

Okay, so this is the real question.

If BBC had to chose between Top Gear and Formula 1, which one should be axed?

 

[Dilly]

But, Lee McKenzie?

 

[Ark]

Okay, so this is the real question.

If BBC had to chose between Top Gear and Formula 1, which one should be axed?

Formula 1.

IIRC Top Gear is the BBC's most profitable show.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Okay, so this is the real question.

If BBC had to chose between Top Gear and Formula 1, which one should be axed?

Top Gear is becoming increasingly samey, the jokes and humour are often hackneyed and the whole formula is getting quite stale. F1 on the other hand is gaining in popularity and the new rules although disappointing, might equalise the field again. We could be entering a new era of competitiveness throughout the field and an increase in entertainment levels (might be too optimistic about that). I know what I would choose.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I'd take F1 over Top Gear too... which says a lot about how great F1 has been in 10/11 to get that much affection from me.

 

[isamu]

But, Lee McKenzie?

I know. Damn she's hot.

 

[kharma45]

Okay, so this is the real question.

If BBC had to chose between Top Gear and Formula 1, which one should be axed?

Top Gear, whilst it's still entertaining it's now past it's best.

when f1 does go to channel 4 i'd be pissed about the return of adverts, not their coverage. in the past when sports have crossed from the bbc to 4 they've always done a better job; cricket and wrc for example.

i welcome our new c4 overlords :bow

Could they not do it with say pop-up adverts, or ones that scroll along the bottom or something?

I remember watching F1 abroad last year in Ibiza (I think it was on a German channel) and when they went to adverts 3/4 of the screen was the advert whilst the other quarter was the race so you could keep an eye on it.

 

[kharma45]

double post, sorry.

 

[f0rk]

The BBC would have dropped Top Gear years ago if it wasn't for the ratings.

 

[Deadman]

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A0425C3A0A7D69C0C12578D3002EBECA/$FILE/2014_F1_TECHNICAL_REGULATIONS_-_Published_on_20.07.pdf

Regulations for 2014 season. 77 pages. They define what automobile and land vehicle mean at the start :lol. They sure are very specific.

 

[Ark]

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A0425C3A0A7D69C0C12578D3002EBECA/$FILE/2014_F1_TECHNICAL_REGULATIONS_-_Published_on_20.07.pdf

Regulations for 2014 season. 77 pages. They define what automobile and land vehicle mean at the start :lol. They sure are very specific.

FIA? Rules? Specific?

Get outta here.

 

[Deadman]

Seems like 8 forward gears and the ratios of them all have to be chosen before the first race and kept constant all year :S Also reverse gear added.

9.6 Gear ratios :
9.6.1 The number of forward gear ratios must be 8.
9.6.2 Each competitor must nominate the forward gear ratios (calculated from engine crankshaft to
drive shafts) to be employed within their gearbox. These nominations must be declared to the
FIA technical delegate at or before the first Event of the Championship. For 2014 only, a
competitor may re-nominate these ratios once within the Championship season, in which case
the original nomination becomes immediately void. Ratio re-nominations must be declared as
a set and may only be effected by the substitution of change gears.

...

9.7 Reverse gear :
All cars must be able to be driven in reverse by the driver at any time during the Event.

For anyone reading all the new bits are in pink.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Could they not do it with say pop-up adverts, or ones that scroll along the bottom or something?

I remember watching F1 abroad last year in Ibiza (I think it was on a German channel) and when they went to adverts 3/4 of the screen was the advert whilst the other quarter was the race so you could keep an eye on it.

That's still not acceptable for a sport like F1.

 

[navanman]

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A0425C3A0A7D69C0C12578D3002EBECA/$FILE/2014_F1_TECHNICAL_REGULATIONS_-_Published_on_20.07.pdf

Regulations for 2014 season. 77 pages. They define what automobile and land vehicle mean at the start :lol. They sure are very specific.

Engines must be a 90 degree "V" with the turbo inside the V shape with exhausts exiting outside the "V".
"V"ery specific.

 

[navanman]

when f1 does go to channel 4 i'd be pissed about the return of adverts, not their coverage. in the past when sports have crossed from the bbc to 4 they've always done a better job; cricket and wrc for example.

i welcome our new c4 overlords :bow

I'm struggling to see how C4 can do F1 better than the BBC is at the moment.
Channel 4 has no "red" button functionality which means no multiple commentaries, forum,etc..

 

[Edmond Dantès]

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A0425C3A0A7D69C0C12578D3002EBECA/$FILE/2014_F1_TECHNICAL_REGULATIONS_-_Published_on_20.07.pdf

Regulations for 2014 season. 77 pages. They define what automobile and land vehicle mean at the start :lol. They sure are very specific.

Interesting reading.

Still bummed about the ground effects been scrapped.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

I like that the FIA deem it necessary to define pi. It's also really strange having to set gear ratios at the start of the year and leaving it like that. What good could that possibly do?

 

[f0rk]

Would be funny if a team got the strategy wrong and was hitting the limiter hard on the longer straights.

 

[bobnowhere]

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A0425C3A0A7D69C0C12578D3002EBECA/$FILE/2014_F1_TECHNICAL_REGULATIONS_-_Published_on_20.07.pdf

Regulations for 2014 season. 77 pages. They define what automobile and land vehicle mean at the start :lol. They sure are very specific.

You just know every team already has people going over this with a fine tooth comb looking for loopholes and ambiguity. I wonder who will find the next double diffuser or f-duct?

 

[Edmond Dantès]

You just know every team already has people going over this with a fine tooth comb looking for loopholes and ambiguity. I wonder who will find the next double diffuser or f-duct?

Newey.